why are you selling?

 

had some problems recently and i just thought id put it on to see if it will meet the reserve and see what options are open. iv been offerd 52plate stis 54plate wrx prodrive editions evos alsorts.

i realy dont think it will meet reserve anyway. on the plus side i had it struck up today and running.

 

gutting for you!!
would be ace to see it finished, really like this one!!!

 

shame to sell it after all the work you put in. if you do have to sell it may be worth seeing if any TA entrants for next year would be interested.

 

its got to go, im open to offers and p/x. via pm please thanks




gutted

and its running

 

Devastating that you have to sell, but you must have your reasons..

Should be a good buy for someone.

 

pm sent

 

more high res pics before you sell it please!

 

do you have any pics of the front as it is but with no front bumper?

 

Just spotted this on ebay again if anyone in interested!!!!
Matt.

 

yes seen this too, seems strange to be back up for sale so soon dont we think??? shame after all that work. Anyone know of any problems with it just seems strange to me?? bloody nice machine though

 

Is it Road legal and with papers or is it just a track car ???

 

I also wanted to ask......you said that you have changed the sub frames on the car to thyose from a newage car for a wider stance.

How easy was that to do, it is a straight swap?
Do you then have to use newage hubs, Suspension, breaks, wheels(offset)?
How much more width does it give you, can you achieve the same with hubcentric spacers ??

sorry for all the questions.
Chris.

 

is very strange to be back up for sale as the idiot that bought it from me scammed me with a skyline that wasnt wat it was meant to be. becuz he did this i never gave him the log book chassi plate other numberplates ex, this car is still owned by me on paper so will the person that owns it please contact me so i can get this sorted.

cant believe i got scammed after all the work i put into this car it was my pride and joy.

 

Sorry to hear you had problems with the car Rich, but i haved no idea how you think you got scammed.

Just to put everybody in the picture, i swapped my drag skyline with Rich. The car was used by me in the HKS drag series this year and posted a best 1/4 mile time of 10.8.

Two weeks before the deal, the car was mapped at engine advantages and was producing over 700bhp, and was fighting fit. The car was built by Takamo Motorsport using a full HKS engine, and the car was very well known in the skyline community. At the time you wanted it, i was halfway through swapping the big single for two T67's that would push the car over 900bhp. You stated that you did not have the time for me to refit the single turbo, as you were losing your workshop and needed it there asap, and i was keeping the big twin setup due to its value. Due to you needing the car asap i brought it up to you, you fitted the turbo and brought back the twin setup for me.

Since the car was re-mapped at engine advatages, it had not covered any miles, i took it off the trailer and it was in my garage. Immediately you said you were getting no boost and after a few phone calls, it turned out to be a boost pipe you missed. You then said there was an issue with the way the car was running and thought it could have been the mapping.

Now i don't know what you had done in between time, but i don't understand how you think you have been scammed. Apart from removong the turbo, nothing else on the car had been touched. I fail to see how the problems were encountered unless something happened to the car in between time.

The car was looked after by RB motorsport, and mapped by engine advantages and both will vouch for the car. Had you let me re-fit the turbo i fail to see how there would have been a problem. I also included in the sale, £2000 worth of brand new fuel system and the trailer for the car.

The car is very well known on the GTR owners forum and was in impeccable mechanical condition when it left me.

You have my number and my address, and not once have you made any suggestion to me about being scammed. I carried out every possible check i could to make sure the car was running at it's best for you to compete in, and even passed my HKS drag series registration to you and informed the event owners that you would be competeing in the car.

You gave me the logbook with the car, but not once did you inform me you held back the chassis plate or the number plates, this is brand new news to me. I noticed that they weren't on the car, but due to it recently being resprayed, and the fact that it was a race car, i wasn't bothered about the lack of them.

I even pointed you to a video on youtube posted by RK tuning of the car on the rollers two weeks before, so you could see just how well the car was running. I spent a lot of money on that car, and like you, it was my baby.

If you would like to contact me, feel free. You have my contact details, but i do not appreciate being called a scammer.

Many thanks,

Dan

 

And i have heard that you sold the car, but i had no contact from you, Nothing to say there was any serious issues with the car. Had you contacted me to say you were having that much trouble with the car that you were going to sell it, i would have helped in any way that i could. If you believed it to be a mapping issue i would have gladly taken it back to Paul at engine Advantages. however i heard nothing more from you so believed you had sorted the issue.

Instead you sold the car and come on here telling me you got scammed. I do not scam anyone, and have been a highly respected member of many forums over the years. had you given me the chance to help you if the problems were as serious as you say they, i would have gladly done what i could.

Instead all i had to work with was lack of boost to start with, and then what you had decided was a mapping problem although i can not see how that could be as it's a locked ECU, and HKS Fcon Pro Gold ecu's are not known to be problematic.

If you could please shed some light on any further problems you had with the car, or how it was not meant to be what i said it was, i'd be glad to investigate further for you. However with the fact that you sold the car without coming to me leaves me in a difficult position to help in any way!

And just so everyone can see my GTR, here are a couple of pictures of her...





As you can see it is extremely well looked after, and i only did the deal as i wanted to get into Time Attack. No expense was ever spared on her, she has been in many magazines and even on the cover of Banzai. It is a well known car, she was built to be reliable and competitive and that's exactly how she left me. With the car came the sponsors who would have helped me this past season, so i had a responsibilty to them to pass on a car that would continue to get results, not scam someone and drag my sponsors good names through the mud.

Dan

 

Just to say that is a sweet looking Skyline, why would you spend all that money getting the car right and have Engine Advantages map the car? The are known for **** mapping on many forums. They mapped my mates Scoob, it ran really bad so he got it checked by a well known mapper. He said it was one of the worst maps he had seen!

 

It's horses for courses. Everybody will have had good and bad experiences due to the nature of the business and the mapping itself. I sat and listened to the det cans myself while the car was being mapped, and watched the AFR readings myself and had no issues, there was aslo no det on the knock monitor just to confirm. RK tuning also use EA and Ron's cars are extremely quick and have even held records. There are only a handful of HKS Fcon qualified mappers in the country so you take your pick. Paul was one of the closest, being about two hours away, and his work on the car was faultless. I know Ron at RK well, and when he recommended Paul, and the fact that the three quickest skylines, including the overall winner of the street class (a nine second R32) are mapped by Paul, well...that was enough to convince me.

I'm not a novice to mechanics. I used to build race cars and also worked for a well known turbocharger manufacturer, and i know that car was spot on when it left Engine Advantages.

Have a look for yourself

YouTube - RK TUNING AND DAN'S ORANGE R32'S

 

Well what can i say besides thats one hell of a mapping session - Flames are MAD.

And the fact that the wide arch skyline looks ubber mental.

Forgot to add - i hope you guys sort this out would be a shame to see 2 very talented car enthusiasts to fall out.

 

What i don;t understand is why would a very good specced skyline with proven times etc, would swap for a non running scooby worth around £6k
You would of been better off scrapping it for parts than sell complete,
700bhp and 10.8 is not that good for a car weighing in at around 1400-1500kg,

 

Agree, and that's a fair point. The car did have some damage to it after the carbon bonnet came up on my last testing day, which cracked the screen and dented the roof. Due to the fact that the paint job is pretty expensive being original lambhorgini paint, and the fact that Rich owned a body shop he agreed to have the car and sort it himself. I would also value the Impreza track car a lot more than £6k, it was very well built and extremely sorted, and it also came with a lot of spares. At the end of the day it was my choice to do the swap.

I have had a phone call today from the new owner of the skyline who has been over the car and found nothing wrong other than needing another map. Quite why the map has changed, i have no idea, but he is taking it back to engine advantages to be re -mapped and i told him i would help him in any way he could.

If Rich said he wanted to do the same, i would have helped him in any way i could also. I would have been willing to front the cost of another mapping session to get it sorted. However he did not go that route and decided to sell the car.

Quite why he decided not to take me up on the offer, or contact me privately to get things sorted i do not know, but he decided to sell the car and then come on here and call me a scammer! That's not on.

I have sent the new owner full details of the car, contact details of the company who bulit the car, the previous owner's details and every bit of information on the car, and would like to stay in touch to see the car back to it's former glory.

I understand with the world being the way it is, and with so many rip off merchants around trying to make a few quid out of other people that some people might speculate as to my intentions when i did the deal and whether i was trying to sell the car the off as something it is not. I will update once the new owner has been to get the car re-mapped to show that it is every bit as described and still running strongly and faultlesly. From our long and detailed chat, neither of us can find a single fault with the car other than maybe a map issue. If that's the case, i will help out in whatever way i can, but i still don't understand how it could have happened.

Many thanks.

Dan

 

Dan,, what did you sell the scooby for then mate
What sort of price
I can;t see it making no more than £6k
It was not proven or even running to get alot more
Rich must of run out of money to get the skyline properly going

 

The car made £8.5k which is a bargain for what it had done to it, and it was running when it left me.

The skyline had no work carried out on it, the new owner informed me that the exhaust manifold was still not fully fitted and that he was told by Rich that he had done nothing further to the car and it just sat in a lock up.


Still doesn't explain the fact that Rich, instead of contacting me to inform the car was still not running so we could both come to a resolution, decided to post up derogatory comments about myself and imply that i scammed him. That's not very clever and i will be pursuing it with the moderators of this forum.

As to why i sold the Impreza, it's simple. My partner and i are expecting a baby. If i still had the Skyline, that would go too. Needs must, and if i'm in the position to pursue time attack in the future, i will.

Rich if you would like to comment, please feel free. I have nothing to hide, i have both RB Motorsport and Engine Advantages (who i have just recently conacted to discuss) who will be able to confirm the spec of the car, so it is exactly as it was described. I will, however, be expecting an apology from you on here.

many thanks,

Dan

 

I would also like to say that i know Rich sold the skyline as a non runner for £10k. That suggests to me, that if someone is willing to pay that for a non-runner then there must be something pretty special about the car. the new owner knows his stuff which would suggest to me that he recognised the spec of the car there and then. Thus confirming it was exactly as described. So Rich got far more for the skyline than he would have ever got for the Impreza, and that was his original intention, to sell the car for money as an unfinished project.

Now i know that's not the point, and i would like to reiterate that i offered to cover the mapping costs. The last i heard from Rich was months ago. No contact to tell me it still wasn't working. No phone call to me or letter to express his dismay or difficulty with the car. Nothing until FIVE MONTHS LATER (!) when he decides to say in an open forum that i scammed him. Surely that seems a little strange? It certainly does to me. If i had bought a car and couldn't get it working, didn't think it was as described and thought i had been scammed but had the owners contact details and address, i would be straight round/on the phone to come to a resolution, or even take it to court etc.

However, as i have had no further information from rich, i don't know what he believes was not as described or why the car wasn't what it was supposed to be.

 

Rich, cheers for re spraying my frt bumper and carbon splitter
Top job sir,
Want the alloys doing next

 

RIGHT mr dan jones

first time ive been on here for a while to find you have decided to write on here.
firstly i had tried to ring you many times and even to the day i was selling it with the new customer with me both of us tried to call you over and over. i also wrote a letter with no reply from you so there for you were ignoring me. the car did have no boost and the mapping was out i did also ring the mapper and he said it was nothing to do with him...
also when i sold the vehicle the chap that turned up actually new about skylines and the fact it didnt have on it what you said it did like a geikin gearbox. this was checked out and proven. the trailer had broke its back and needed extensive work to strengthen it.

one thing that i didnt understand is why you would have it mapped put it in ur garage then mess up and disconnect the nock sensor boost gauges and oil pressure guages, and when i rewired them the knock was all over the place and the boost was non existant.

so yes ur right if u had answerd the bloody phone to me we could have sorted it out but u didnt. so ur a scammer.. and the problem isnt over or sorted by a long shot. you plainly ignored me and gave wrong information. if you had just answerd the phone and payed for a remap id of been happy.....



how you doing mr north. hope the cars sorted again just finished ross`s car, looks great.

 

on a happier note i see the car on you tube briefly looks great. who owns it know and is it running ta, any more pictures anywere of it finished or videos of it running.

 

I would just like to say a big thanks to richard whos just done my wheels for me at a bargain price of £120 now in black and looking so much better than gold , plus i thought this was a good project he did back then and wondered if the car was still about does anybody now who has it now last i heard it was in the time attack but not sure now, not sure richard will see this as i dont think he goes on here now such a shame , a quality job well done