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Old 03 November 2007, 04:41 AM
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Old 03 November 2007, 04:42 AM
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Old 03 November 2007, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
There is me you and him here. I don't think you can infract yourself, and I didn't do it, so that leaves you. You don't educate someone by infracting them any more than you reduce crime by using internment or genocide. The only difference between you and Jonno is that he says what he thinks and you think you are clever enough to enforce your opionions without saying what you think
Bollocks.

Lock up a wrong 'un and they cannot commit crimes against the community
Old 03 November 2007, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonno_johnson
Like even if you were racist i will use myself as an exaplme i dont like the black community, they twist and turn everything in there favour because of the colour of there skin.

However i like chinese, japense, asian people etc, but black people are screwing this country, all the shootings, robberys, most rapes are done by the brutal black.

if you dont agree fair enough.
Jonno,

whether I agree or not is irrelevant.

The statistics for crime don't agree with you. If you are black you are far more likely to be randomly stopped or pulled and you are more likely to be charged and convicted. The level of crimes commited is pretty evenly spread - it is simply that institutional racism perpetuated by people like yourself lead to white people getting away with it and black people getting the blame.

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Old 03 November 2007, 09:32 AM
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Why try and educate someone like this? His attitude isn't based on anything even remotely related to intelligent thought and you won't be able to use intelligent thought to sway him, either.

He's just typical of the attitude of the bottom-feeders in this country that genuinely drag the country down but rather than blame the sinkhole estates full of fellow lazy white folk that are too busy indulging in petty theft and mindless vandalism against each other he chooses to believe the problem is "the blacks" because it's convenient for his tiny little mind and requires no thought.
Old 03 November 2007, 09:34 AM
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LOL at Jonno - true trailor park trash!

My 8 year old girl was on a tube with granny recently, and was told it was not a good idea to display her mobile phone on the tube.

She replied "yes, there are a lot of black people about aren't there".

Now she didn't get that from me. or the wife.
Old 03 November 2007, 09:38 AM
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Im not racist i hate everyone
Old 03 November 2007, 10:13 AM
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I work in Education, and whilst I don't necessarily get the race stuff at my current college (due to the county being predominantly white), my last college was very multi-ethnic backgrounded.

Now I work in Music technology and Sound - one of the few industries where on the whole colour, creed and sex don't matter. You're judged on your ability.

My last college, I was accused of being a racist by a black student, when I challenged him about not getting on with his work and a poor attitude to his fellow students.
I actually laughed out aloud, as prior to lecturing, I was UB40's producer. In terms of this particular student, I probably knew more black people that I could call friends, than he did!! Also, by the very nature of the job, I was introduced to the Black and Asian community wholeheartedly.

In other words, one of the last people that can be called a racist, is me!

Anyhow, I ended up losing my rag with this kid, and said that any comments made about him being a lazy kid with a bad attitude, had nothing to do with him being black. They were just the truth.

In my eyes, if you're an a$$hole, the colour of your skin isn't going to make any difference

Just my 2p

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Old 03 November 2007, 10:35 AM
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Most of the killings in London have had something to do with gang culture AND kept within gang culture ,unless there has been mistaken identity, as far as i can see.It stands to reason also that your likely as not to stick around with those youve grown up with and that the poorer you are the more desperate you are.
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Originally Posted by **************
The thing that makes the whole situation worse in this country is when you see ethnic 'minorities' getting away with racist comments because they can't ever be pulled up on it yet if a white person was to make the same remark in the other direction they would be arrested for it.

A prime example was on traffic cops last week when an asian calls out to the police officers and camera crew "you white pussies" sticking his middle finger up. Now why he wasn't arrested for racist abuse I don't know because if I had been there and called him paki scum in front of the same police officers i'd have been arrested for racial abuse.

Its time this country stopped with the pc boll0cks and treated everyone equal so when someone is racist no matter what their colour they are nicked for it, not just arrest white people for being racist.
Id say its the manner of way the comment was made that is as impotant as the words themselves. Youd have to remember also that this was television - he knew he was being filmed and acted up accordingly.
Old 03 November 2007, 10:58 AM
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The black people I know have always been decent, law abiding people.

Though it does seem from what I read that there is definitely a proportion of the black community that seems intent of violent self destruction, does that make me racist, listening to the news and forming an impression ?

I worked for the Police and different races do seem to have different types of crime they focus on, Black criminals (notice not Black people in general) tend to indulge in gun, drug and robbery crime. Asian criminals (notice not Asian people) gravitate towards financial gain type crime such as card fraud, insurance fraud and tax evasion.

White criminals tend to be into car theft, drunken punch ups and wife beating.

I am not going to say all the evils of society are due to white people, I am not going to say Black people never commit crime just so I can sound right on and not labeled a racist, if nobody mentions anything these issues don't get tackled but conversely just being racist for the sheer sake of it is more destructive.

This is why the Police have such a difficult job, they tie themselves in knots trying to not appear racist for many reasons, to avoid the race card being played all the time, because of trying to distance themselves from their past and then they have to present statistics which are generally a problem as it either shows certain sections of society as indulging in more criminal activity or makes the Police look like they are targeting these sections of society.
Old 03 November 2007, 10:59 AM
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It saddens me that the true meaning of Racism has been lost in this modern age.. a bit like christmas only more damaging! I recently asked a new work collegue of their "Ethinic Origin" as I was genuinely interested. Someone over-heard our conversation and even though said collegue was happy to talk about his familly and was completely un-aware of any kind of "racial" motivation I could have possibly had (which obviously I didnt) decided she thought what I said was Innappropriate.. Needless to say I told her what I though of her views. What does interest me how ever is I can ask a Ginger person if they are from scotland or a girl with pale skin, dark hair and blue eyes if she is irish, or even someone with blonde hair and blue eyes if they are from sweeden without anyone batting an eyelid???
Old 03 November 2007, 11:11 AM
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Christ, this is deep for 2 in the morning
Old 03 November 2007, 11:54 AM
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i think someone had a few too many beers last night then thought it would be a good idea to go online.....thats NEVER a good idea
Old 03 November 2007, 12:16 PM
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Old 03 November 2007, 12:46 PM
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Sarah Kennedy said this week on her radio 2 show that she only spotted a black man walking when he opened his mouth and yawned. He also had dark clothes on.

Apparently this was seen by some as a racist comment.
Old 03 November 2007, 01:02 PM
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I am not afraid of being called racist, largely because I am not in any way. As far as I am concerned people are people the world over as I have discovered in my travels. I dont take notice of a person's colour, creed or ethnic background. What is really important is what a person's character is like. It is not racist to criticise a particular person if he demonstrates he is a bad person regardless of his background.

To make inferences about a black person's criminal tendencies just because he is black is as shameful as it would be for any other person. Just like that report which that prat published saying that he thought that black people are less intelligent. I thought that was the bitter end as a disgraceful insult.

Les
Old 03 November 2007, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by [Davey]
It saddens me that the true meaning of Racism has been lost in this modern age.. a bit like christmas only more damaging! I recently asked a new work collegue of their "Ethinic Origin" as I was genuinely interested. Someone over-heard our conversation and even though said collegue was happy to talk about his familly and was completely un-aware of any kind of "racial" motivation I could have possibly had (which obviously I didnt) decided she thought what I said was Innappropriate.. Needless to say I told her what I though of her views. What does interest me how ever is I can ask a Ginger person if they are from scotland or a girl with pale skin, dark hair and blue eyes if she is irish, or even someone with blonde hair and blue eyes if they are from sweeden without anyone batting an eyelid???
I'm NOT ginger !!


Good post, btw Davey.

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Old 03 November 2007, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie

To make inferences about a black person's criminal tendencies just because he is black is as shameful as it would be for any other person. Just like that report which that prat published saying that he thought that black people are less intelligent. I thought that was the bitter end as a disgraceful insult.

Les
Les, my point was that all races have criminals, yet there seems to be a difference in the type of offense, I worked for the Police for 10 years and spoke to many officers, when you go into an policing unit and see a wall of mugshots that relate to street robbery and most are from one section of society it does bring it home.
Old 03 November 2007, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
indeed Mrs fb stopped out again ...?
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Old 03 November 2007, 08:28 PM
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i'm not racist, i have a coloured TV
Old 03 November 2007, 09:09 PM
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you swing both ways then
Old 03 November 2007, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BigJay
i'm not racist, i have a coloured TV
Old 03 November 2007, 09:32 PM
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Until the colour of a mans skin is of no more relevance than the colour of his eyes....
Old 04 November 2007, 12:49 AM
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i just read that dole scrounging scum trash of a lads comments aboot blacks before he got banned


i will give u an islamic perspective of things, as most of u know, in islam, their is no such thing as race superiority or races, we r muslims and brothers and sisters and thats that, all my life i have met many a people and many fellow muslim brothers and sisters of all colours and backgrounds, white, black, yellow, brown etc etc etc and the best muslims i ever met r the black coloured brothers and white and yellow muslim brothers and i met many a brothers who r black and black sisters, mair superior than any nation i ever seen, so it makes me sad when i read all this garbage aboot blacks, some of it may be true but same goes for whites, browns and yellow

in the uk for a black person its hard finding a job and thrown intae ghettos and not earning much coz of lack of jobs coz of their colour some turn tae gang culture and crime, we have the same for all races and people, as all whites arent paedofiles , neither r all blacks criminals


will give u a nice quote of jesus peace be upon him

he said the first will be last and the last will be first, the poor, the persecuted and the downtrodden will be the first in the kingdom of heaven and through centuries the black has been used as the carpet tae wipe yer shoes aff and God willing victory and success will be tae the persecuted and downtrodden, the meek shall inherit the earth


as many muslims will tell u, one of the first muslims woz a black man called bilal, God bless him and the black slaves of arabia

my martyr brother like malcolm x and other wonderful brothers in the world, woz a blessing tae mankind

me being fae aryan asian stock originally , all i can say is i met many a black brothers and sisters, one of the best nation in the world.


it will be a blessing if the next caliph will be either a blackman or a yellow or whiteman,the arabs and aryans had their chance, now its the chance of another great nation ameen


also when the muslims were a lil minority inthe ocean of pagan arabs and jews who wanted tae slaughter and cleanse the muslims it woz a righteous black christian king of abyssinia(modern day eritrea and ethopia) who saved the muslims wae the glory of God and gave them asylum

we owe it tae the blacks , it woz oor soul brothers who saved oor ancestors


the prophet peace be upon him's last sermon woz this

"O people! Verily, your Lord is one, and your father (Adam) is one, verily the Arab is not superior to the non-Arab, nor the non-Arab to the Arab, nor the white to the black, nor the black to the white, except by taqwaa (piety, fearful awareness of God)."

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Old 04 November 2007, 12:58 AM
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Can you summarise that moses cos I got lost after 'I just read'
Old 04 November 2007, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
Can you summarise that moses cos I got lost after 'I just read'


lol i dont know how , but hello,long time no see
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Here Moses - I never worked out if you were a taig muslim or a prod muslim...... Are your eyes close together?
Old 04 November 2007, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
Here Moses - I never worked out if you were a taig muslim or a prod muslim...... Are your eyes close together?
och come on, u should know by now, im a celtic man, so im a taig muslim hail hail

my eyes r normal have a look




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