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Old 08 December 2007, 11:44 AM
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Tree hugging canister bo77ocks ! Mumble mumble....

Rip 'em out !

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P.S. Remove brakes for the real track experience, saves weight too !
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thought id bump this up.. 4 yrs later what else have people found?
Old 18 July 2011, 12:25 AM
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What's another 8% off the fuel economy, it sucks as it is ...... Lol.
Old 21 July 2011, 04:58 PM
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How heavy is the canister?
Old 26 July 2011, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by eggy790
thought id bump this up.. 4 yrs later what else have people found?

Its just the same ways unless your preppared to make your car look more like a track car. Also the saving.on bucket seats wont be that great as you still need brackets and custom bases to fit them.to then there will be the extra weight.of the harness.
Old 27 July 2011, 01:27 PM
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Instead of stripping, you could fill the car with a load of helium balloons !!! Should save some weight and if there's a leakage in the car, you'll have a laff when someone talks....
Old 12 September 2011, 12:26 PM
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Removed carbon canister a year ago, as I needed the space for a RCM cone filter. No ill effects / fuel smell and fuel economy has never been better - but I guess that is down to the fuelmap
Old 12 September 2011, 12:43 PM
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I thought canister was in boot area?
Old 12 September 2011, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by swisstonihasher
I thought canister was in boot area?
Mine is a classic
Old 08 October 2011, 08:09 AM
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Hmmm anybody know if I have one of these canisters in the back of my bug? I don't have a fuel vapour return pipe anymore so no point really in having the canister!
Old 08 October 2011, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueBugEye
Hmmm anybody know if I have one of these canisters in the back of my bug? I don't have a fuel vapour return pipe anymore so no point really in having the canister!
Isnt it under the OS rear arch/bumper ? black rectangular plastic box,
If you want to save around 12KGs on a newage just remove the U brace under the front.
Old 08 October 2011, 10:31 AM
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Battery is probably the simplist. Stock batterys are around 18kg and a 680 Odyssey is around 7kg from memory.

Failing that. Buy a classic lol
Old 10 October 2011, 07:09 PM
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I saved 5kgs on my classic by ditching the airbag and associated wiring/sensors!
Old 14 December 2011, 06:49 PM
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Ive got an 03 plate wrx, its going to be a road going track car.

Removed: carpet, sound deadening, bulkhead sound proofing,air con, airbags and wiring, spare wheel jack etc, many unneeded brackets/long bolts, rear spoiler, side skirts.
realistic weight saving around 45kg

Fitted: lighter DTM mirrors, carbon bonnet
Realistic weight saving 8kg



When funds allow il fit: racing battery,Lighter front seats, glass fiber boot lid, spec c manual windows
Old 14 December 2011, 11:08 PM
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Change to full decat stainless steel exhaust . Also remove front bumper bar.
Old 15 December 2011, 08:03 AM
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Also done above and rear speakers removed, although exhaust is still very heavy, titanium system would be the job

Cut some support steel work out of boot lid as well
Old 28 December 2011, 03:55 PM
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Interesting thread.

For a track car, I reckon you can save quite a bit of weight by cleaning up the wiring, as half the wires won't be needed on a track day car.

I'm also about to attack the rear doors with the old plasma cutter, and who needs a spare wheel well?

One thing I wonder is how much of the inner skins I can take off the front doors without compromisng safety unduly? I've got a full welded in cage with door crosses etc, so I don't think safety would be compromised, but I'd welcome input on this subject.
Old 28 December 2011, 10:10 PM
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I'm interested to see what you guys have got your car weight down to on the newage models, and what you started with. Mine is a UK blobeye, I am down to 1266kg fully wet with driver when stripped out, and slightly more now with some interior back in.
Old 28 December 2011, 10:42 PM
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1266 isn't bad - what have you done to it?
Old 28 December 2011, 10:48 PM
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It would be good to weigh my car, changed the rear seats to spec-c ones, prodrive fronts, all airbags gone and most of the aircon system - trying to keep it useable as a daily drive but shedding anything that is non-essential
Old 29 December 2011, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Henrik
1266 isn't bad - what have you done to it?
Removed or changed...
Carpets
Rear seats
All rear seat bars and plastics
Front seats, runners and frames
Sound deadening
Glove box
Radio
Speakers
Door cards
All interior plastics
Steering wheel
Passenger airbag
Seat belts
Spare wheel, jack etc
Changed to RA R glass
Carbon wing mirrors
Carbon bonnet
Air con
Chassis lightened by Chevron Motorsport in Stafford

Things added back in...
Race wheel with removable boss
Recaro Apex seats (only a couple of kilos heavier than the carbon ones and half the price)
FIA seat bars
Alloy firrewall
Fire extinguisher
Old 29 December 2011, 02:20 PM
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how was the chassis lightened? very impressive
Old 29 December 2011, 04:08 PM
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Sry, can't tell you that. Chevron keep those types of things to themselves. My car is used as a development car for them, so quite a bit is stuff is their knowledge only. Like some of the engine work, the TMIC, the geometry setup they use, diff setup, etc.

Total saving was a lot though. In some cases it was 10 - 20kgs at a time
Old 29 December 2011, 04:25 PM
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Has anyone got the fibreglass doors that are available ? I plan on. A set of them with Perspex for the rear 3 windows
Old 29 December 2011, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by F1 CJE UK
yep i just did that dont think it would have fitted on my new big APs
Big Aps on the front only? If so the space saver will still fit - you just put the rear wheel on the front and then the space saver on the back. Bit of buggering about with the wheels/ jack, but...
Old 30 December 2011, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JB1
I'm interested to see what you guys have got your car weight down to on the newage models, and what you started with. Mine is a UK blobeye, I am down to 1266kg fully wet with driver when stripped out, and slightly more now with some interior back in.
1266kg including driver is VERY impressive, hats off to you mate!

I'm guessing WRX? Does that include rotated pipework or is the turbo standard position?

It's worth having a search through the forums because some of the claimed weights on newage cars are, frankly, laughable. There's more than one "track prepared" UK newage STi out there claiming circa 1300kgs (and less in some cases) yet still managing to sport a Max Power bodykit, bling alloys, gazillion point cage and more chintz than you'd find in a McDonald's car park on a Saturday night.

My UK Hawk STi currently weighs in at a little over 1300kgs + fuel + driver. What I've discovered is there is a fine line between weight saving and compromising the car as an overall package. I reckon I could go out to my car tomorrow morning and take 30kg out of it by lunchtime but I'm not convinced the benefits would outweigh the "costs" (I've got TWO fire extinguishers in it for a start) so for me weight saving is more of a gradual improvement over time.
Old 30 December 2011, 10:31 PM
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Yeah, it took Chevron many months of prep to establish what could come out and what had to stay. The concern for me was when removing chuncks of metal that safety would be an issue in a collision. A lot of it was differences between the UK variant and the JDM RA R. I'll have to ask them exactly what they did.

Not a WRX, it's a first gen blobeye STI. Standard position turbo. It would be heavier now as I have put on some weight. I was less than 70kgs when I was weighed in :-)

Next step would be carbon or glassfibre doors and roof, but adding the cage that would be required as a result more or less negates the lightweight doors and roof, and a well welded in cage is 65 - 70 kgs.

As you say it's all a compromise, and at the moment it's running heavy as I don't want all the road or rear end noise from the fuel system when I drive to work so the rear seats and carpets are back in. But even in it's present state it blows away anything else I have driven.
Old 31 December 2011, 11:09 AM
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On another note is that bank managers classic still on ramp at chevron ? Seen it last summer and what a car, as mint under the car as on top, may be p1 not sure as was covered up,i was looking over the paint work as im in bodywork and it was very good,think he paid loads to have it painted(8,000) and it was awfull job so had it done again.when you have the dosh its easy,lol.
Old 01 January 2012, 08:11 PM
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My new age track car weighs 1320kgs without driver. I'm planning on getting this down to below 1200kgs by fitting fiberglass doors with plastic glass,light wieght alternator,lightwieght mirrors, fiberglass boot without wing and lighter intercooler.
Cheers Martin
Picture of my track car
Old 01 January 2012, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by carl heath
On another note is that bank managers classic still on ramp at chevron ? Seen it last summer and what a car, as mint under the car as on top, may be p1 not sure as was covered up,i was looking over the paint work as im in bodywork and it was very good,think he paid loads to have it painted(8,000) and it was awfull job so had it done again.when you have the dosh its easy,lol.
ha ha, I'll tell him you said he was a bank manager. Yes, the classic is there. It's 99% complete now, he is deciding what to do with one more item under the bonnet before it rolls of the ramps this spring. It's a 22B by the way. He didn't have the cash to have it sprayed again after SC did it the first time, so he had to save to do it again properly. It's been at Chevron for a very long time.


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