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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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gallois is obviously a newbie trol
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by spireite
gallois is obviously a newbie trol
not at all, just a keen rugby fan, don't take it too hard, 2nd in the world is a good result.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
Yes you are, the video ref was Australian and the pitch ref Irish, enough said
are you suggesting that the refs should have been english?
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by gallois
are you suggesting that the refs should have been english?
Thank **** they were not scotish
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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I think hes suggesting the refs should have made better decisions

2 Missed "Acidental" offsides form Alain Rolland and the bad Try decision from dickinson.

Dont get me wrong SA may deserve the cup ...but there were some sh*T decisions in that game,
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
Yes you are, the video ref was Australian and the pitch ref Irish, enough said
ahhh, thanks for that

I still think the ball was down and his foot was in the air. It should have been allowed.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gallois
yes, the foot touching the line.
I disagree
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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It was a good game, and all this debating does mean we are forgetting one thing. We beat the French in their own stadium 2nd is good, and way way more than we ever had a right to hope for at the start of this tournament.









(opens a bury the ref fund )
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 84of300
I disagree
The image being used on this thread is after the offence. Cuetos foot touched the line before the ball was grounded hence the try being disallowed. The image shows the point at which his foot has lifted off the ground and the ball is being grounded.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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Cuetos foot touched the line before the ball was grounded
I/we disgree
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dsmith
I/we disgree
of course
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DesR
The image being used on this thread is after the offence. Cuetos foot touched the line before the ball was grounded hence the try being disallowed. The image shows the point at which his foot has lifted off the ground and the ball is being grounded.
I watched it, honestly, I thought the ball went down first. Never mind, makes no odds to the outcome, really
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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This is the BBC's effort. Not enough for me personally to warrant disallowing it.

Genuinely down to how a whether a few blades are painted or not.

I say again....the spirit of the law says this should be a try. "on the line" is in touch. "possibly brushing a single painted blade of grass" isn't

Cr*p decision.

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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
Well i've posted the pic supporting the try, where's the pic supporting the claim that his foot was touching the line before the ball was grounded? Not seen one yet!
Just for you I will try and get one....
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 12:23 AM
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In that picture his foot is clearly in touch. Excellent refereeing.

Of course without the 4th official I suspect it would have been a try.

More importantly England gifted SA 6 points early on and that was probably more telling in the end.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 01:08 AM
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Full speed - try.

Slow motion, no try - foot in touch before it was lifted and ball was placed down.

If you are not English that was plain to see?

Anyway, if that had been allowed and Jonny Jonny had converted you would have still lost by 5.

Get over it.

You'll have to admit (eventually perhaps) that they were by miles the better team.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by StiX
Full speed - try.

Slow motion, no try - foot in touch before it was lifted and ball was placed down.

If you are not English that was plain to see?

Anyway, if that had been allowed and Jonny Jonny had converted you would have still lost by 5.

Get over it.

You'll have to admit (eventually perhaps) that they were by miles the better team.

Miles better??? what game were you watching??? they( the saffas) were limited in their play, habana and Jp williams, Percy kicked averagely compared to previous games. THey didn't see the ball apart from turn over and kick returns and their forwards worked hard to get the ball. The Bokkas deserved to win no shadow of a doubt but it wasn't a white wash nor were we as crap as the the rest of the home nations. So pisk your **** up and eff off.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 01:29 AM
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I am guessing I was watching the same game as you?

Boks were better in line-out, scrum, breakdown etc. etc.?

All England did was kick and hope for mistakes that didn't happen.

They weren't as good.

And they lost.

What a shame.

And before you say it, yes Wales were pants losing to Fiji.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by StiX
I am guessing I was watching the same game as you?

Boks were better in line-out, scrum, breakdown etc. etc.?

All England did was kick and hope for mistakes that didn't happen.

They weren't as good.

And they lost.

What a shame.

And before you say it, yes Wales were pants losing to Fiji.
ok first 4 line outs saffas won then we got our game together scrums were on par. And your right we lost they won you were cr*p and went home early. Anyway back to your Jpr videos leave the big stuff to the teams that can play under pressure.

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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 02:01 AM
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MY WORLD CUP PARTY ENDED 20 MINS AGO.

Sorry caps im a bit pished.

Thing that had ne in fits of laugter was..............

Percy....

What a fecking name for a rugbyplayer.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 84of300
His foot wasn't on the line when the ball was down. Am I missing something
When the shot is shown from the back his foot touches the line ...Nice and clear for all you guys who are sick as parrots.....
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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that game summed up why i dont usually watch rugby,but since i support any sport where england are playing i watched the games/final,kinda got into it,but the game last night brought me back home why i dont follow rugby.

they say football is bad, i mean, how many penalties ???

for what,not being all clued up on rugby seemed like soft decisions and WTF from me.

and the try we got, i mean,christ,because of a few mm of leg not in the air or his knee or what the hell it was that caused us not to get it, i mean, WTF,at least in football theres some leaway for christ sakes !

if we did get the try,we could of won it,moral etc might of grown etc.

but hey,back to the footie for me,shame,but thats life.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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Rig boy,

in rugby there is no leeway because the rules are much simpler. If the ball or any part of the ball carrier touches the line then the ball is in touch. Very simple and clear.

In football the ball has to be mostly over the line (throw in) or all over the line (goal) Plenty of room for judgement calls, good and bad.

Also all the penalties were clear. If you listen to the ref he calls out whether players are offside or handling the ball incorrectly long before he blows.

Last night, "6 white, hands off the ball; 6 white hands off the ball! Whistle, penalty"

Plenty of warning and yet we still gave away a sitter!
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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yup,hear what your saying,i couldnt follow the sport with those rules,far too frustrating for me !!!

at least in football a penalty/free kick is for an obvious foul (or a good faker LOL) but half the penalties,if u didnt hear the ref like u say,im watching a pack of guys wrestle then suddenly a penalty is given and im like WTF

but hey,if you like it and all that.........

cheers
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by **************
Yes you are, the video ref was Australian and the pitch ref Irish, enough said
Oh come on Bob! Is there anyone else you've left out? The jocks the aussies and the Irish all conspiring against poor ickle England.
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