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Old 08 May 2008, 07:10 PM
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I think some idiots ON HERE need to perhaps see the in-car footage of this incident before casting aspertions about THIS incident, before slagging off the driver!!
and i think some IDIOTS on here need to stop defending his abysmal driving style and look at all the very near misses he has had with other drivers (or maybe these are a car defect aswell)
Old 08 May 2008, 07:13 PM
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What part of "THIS incident" did you have a problem in comprehending from my post?

I'm sick to death of witch hunts happening on here.

I am not defending his driving on any other occasion and am only specifically talking about THIS incident and what happened prior to it.
Old 08 May 2008, 07:15 PM
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But it was him who unsettled the car- as did he many other times in the race. I found his erratic gear changing throughout quite amusing!
Old 08 May 2008, 07:19 PM
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look at the video and you will see his braking points getting earlier and earlier he was defo getting trouble before the incident.He is faster than me going in to tower but he starts braking at the kink that is way early.His driving style wears brakes and tyres so quickly,look at prebs in the orange evo so smooth.

I would happily go wheel to wheel with Gary or the other evo,s but not simon.
Old 08 May 2008, 07:20 PM
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Stoneface,
I think you would unsettle the car if you had no brakes, whilst approaching a bend at over 100mph.

I have been in this situation first hand, having brake fluid fail the system at over 100mph when approaching a 90deg right hander on track. Believe me, your backside goes ten to the dozen and the first thing you think is "I'm dead".
Old 08 May 2008, 07:24 PM
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Think how i feel lol.

approach to tower is much more than 100
Old 08 May 2008, 07:36 PM
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the scoobynet clowns strike again! god knows why you all have to play the ' i could do so much better card'
the blokes done very well for himself gets to do a dream job and has some very cool toys, but theres no need for gelousy!
you couldnt even reverse that car off your pot holed drives lol!
Old 08 May 2008, 07:38 PM
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/wonders if norris has contacted SN regards this thread
Old 08 May 2008, 07:40 PM
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I suspect that he doesnt GAF...
Old 08 May 2008, 07:42 PM
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not sure about that, webby has came out from his camp in policy, that is the most suspicious thing i have seen all day
Old 08 May 2008, 07:50 PM
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since when was it ok for the webmaster to troll??? double bloody stds.. just about everyone has stated his driving was attrocious way before he came to grief ! .. idiots ? is the webmaster a PRO ? EH........NO. is he qualified to call the members (who pay money to THIS forum) idiots ? you need to come down a peg mate.. you are getting delusions of grandure !* also note, you infracted me for trolling and got one for insulting other members....havent you just done both of these things ?? ** what a joke !

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Old 08 May 2008, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RUDDY
the scoobynet clowns strike again! god knows why you all have to play the ' i could do so much better card'
the blokes done very well for himself gets to do a dream job and has some very cool toys, but theres no need for gelousy!
you couldnt even reverse that car off your pot holed drives lol!
Look at you on your high horse calling other users of this forum clowns, believe me its not something you would want to call me to my face.

Anyway back to your point, whats all this about jeleousy ? Nobody is jeleous of what Simon Norris has achieved in his business as we all wish a fellow enthusiast well, he is obviously a very good tuner.

What a lot of people are questioning is his driving ability and his driving style, ive seen him live on track and i have seen lots of footage of Simon and he is an accident waiting to happen. I always get the feeling from watching him that its only a matter of time before he is going to lose it, he gets the car unbalanced and out of shape because of his aggression and scruffy driving style.

He isn`t smooth enough, never mind all his crashes because he has been lucky on numerous other occasions where he has been close to losing it and he as got away with it. He has badly damaged 2 competitors cars in his last 2 big accidents, lets just hope that him and the other innocent people keep on walking away from these big accidents as its a fine margin between walking away from these big accidents and not.
Old 08 May 2008, 08:16 PM
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Sticky Micky,
No, he has not been in touch with us about this thread.

rabskyline,
Trolling

Re-read what I have EXPLICITLY said about THIS event and SPECIFIC incident only!

Since you state that the webmaster is not a professional driver..... it just goes to show what you ACTUALLY know, or in this case do not know.

As regards to the idiots bit.... well, that was related to some not all. Of course we all know that there are many who think they all know about something when they clearly do not. If the cap fits!

My response was purely down to the brake failure issue..... nothing else!

If you can't take it, don't dish it...... plain and simple.

If all else fails, feel free to read the mood at the bottom of the webmasters post signatures.

Very rarely does this account have to post in such a manner..... you can bet your bottom dollar if it happens, it is for a VERY good reason.
Old 08 May 2008, 08:23 PM
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trolls more than PSL ! i'd love immunity like you..
Old 08 May 2008, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rabskyline
trolls more than PSL ! i'd love immunity like you..
So would PSL
Old 08 May 2008, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PAS


Think how i feel lol.

approach to tower is much more than 100
I take it youre in the Impreza? I see the old Falken drift car is in the same series. Whats involved in joining up, do you mind if I pm you for more info?

Originally Posted by Borat_Drives_A_Scooby
Anyway back to your point, whats all this about jeleousy ? Nobody is jeleous of what Simon Norris has achieved in his business
Speak for yourself, Im as green as green can be, Id love to be out racing a 600bhp Evo in a full on track battle! Jammy git!

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Old 08 May 2008, 08:31 PM
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well the one thing i noticed was apart from thinking simon driving was suspect but looked like great fun if u were in the passenger seat was the fact of how the red evo wich was underpowerd compaired to simons car kept realling him in through the bends sign of a better driver not sure !!!!!!!
Old 08 May 2008, 08:42 PM
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I think the red Evo is running a GT35R, good for the best part of 600bhp and therefore in theory, pretty much on a par with Simons car. Higher rev limit on Simons car, 8500rpm vs 8000.
Old 08 May 2008, 09:12 PM
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yes that is me in the scoob,the blue car behind me went up in flames in the race.I blew a intercooler pipe of so was cruising for the last third of the race but i got second place 4 points and a trophy.


pm me for any info
Old 08 May 2008, 10:41 PM
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Not sure if the point has already been raised... but....

Im curious why you would select neutral when realising you have lost your brakes.
I know there were only seconds to react, but it just seems a strange thing to do.
Old 09 May 2008, 06:35 AM
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i wasent impressed with the driving .

the gear selection was way off
Old 09 May 2008, 07:50 AM
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wow, i believe he lost the grip by entering the dirty apex.
Old 09 May 2008, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by webmaster
you can clearly here the master cylinder going full travel at least three times. He had very little braking power at the point of that incident. Even on the infield you can hear the master cylinder going full travel again at least another two times.
^^^ As I said in an earlier post, I can't believe no one else can hear it
Old 09 May 2008, 08:36 AM
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I heard it, its very clear.
Old 09 May 2008, 08:39 AM
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webby is proptecting him as he thinks it was chuck norris driving and doesnt want his *** kicked !
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Old 09 May 2008, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Snazy
In fairness as the dust has settled, looks like Simon avoided a far more serious crash....



The footage here from 11 mins in gives an idea of what went on.
http://www.norris-designs.co.uk/May%20day%20crash.wmv

However throughout the vid there are some very questionable moments. Not however directly relating to this accident.
He is probably a damn sight better driver than me, but his handling does come into question at times.
I'm not a professional driver, not even close, but I think the footage fits perfectly with Simon's account and would go so far as to praise him for having the presence of mind to realise the brakes weren't going to work again and the only way out was to pitch the car sideways across the grass in an attempt to avoid plowing headlong into another competitor or the wall at a far greater speed. These kind of things happen very quickly when you're behind the wheel (you barely have time to think "oh f*ck!") and it's easy to sit behind a stationary keyboard and criticise. Since I'm not a professional racer/instructor, I'm going to reserve comment on his driving generally, as I'm not appropriately qualified.

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Originally Posted by rabskyline
webby is proptecting him as he thinks it was chuck norris driving and doesnt want his *** kicked !


For anyone that hasn't seen it: Chuck Norris Facts
Old 09 May 2008, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rabskyline
trolls more than PSL ! i'd love immunity like you..
Yet another eejit to add to the ever-expanding ignore list.
Old 09 May 2008, 12:41 PM
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