BORIS - Mayor of London??
04 September 2007, 12:02 AM
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Comment on ?? Boris for Mayor...? 
I thought you started the thread with "do me a favour" but now you choose not to be involved in the actual debate, not to discuss the issues raised, or to reply to the questions asked of what Mr Livingstone has done to be ranked as an "asset" to London.
Fair enough, I can see your point
I thought you started the thread with "do me a favour" but now you choose not to be involved in the actual debate, not to discuss the issues raised, or to reply to the questions asked of what Mr Livingstone has done to be ranked as an "asset" to London.
Fair enough, I can see your point
04 September 2007, 12:12 AM
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I thought you started the thread with "do me a favour" but now you choose not to be involved in the actual debate, not to discuss the issues raised, or to reply to the questions asked of what Mr Livingstone has done to be ranked as an "asset" to London.
I thought you started the thread with "do me a favour" but now you choose not to be involved in the actual debate, not to discuss the issues raised, or to reply to the questions asked of what Mr Livingstone has done to be ranked as an "asset" to London.
In this case you must bear in mind that he actually lives in Middlesbrough... where ever that is..
Somewhere up north they say.... 
Not much to do with London in any case...
04 September 2007, 12:25 AM
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Aaaah nuts, and I was hoping for a good old debate before sleeping, always gets me to sleep much quicker!
Aaah well, opinions without foundations are like fast cars without wheels.. Useless.
On that note, and after receiving comfirmation of my order for new numberplates, I shall bid my fellow Scoobynetters a good night.
Sleep tight, and dont forget Pete T12 OLL is still available.
04 September 2007, 08:37 AM
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Just to clarify ....
I choose not to comment on a poll done by the Daily Mail where anyone and everyone in the world could vote on
Ken will thrash Boris at the election box - whatever you may like or dislike about that, it is the truth ............ anyone can see that!
I choose not to comment on a poll done by the Daily Mail where anyone and everyone in the world could vote on
Ken will thrash Boris at the election box - whatever you may like or dislike about that, it is the truth ............ anyone can see that!
04 September 2007, 09:45 AM
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However, what is your answer to the questions I have asked, about the CC, about public transport, and what makes Ken "a great asset" ? Surely you have something in your arsenal to back up your opinion, and to defend his actions?
Im not taking this as a serious issue by the way, just a bit of light hearted humour and debate, but WOULD love to hear the foundation to your comments.... or was that just a another bit of baiting
Oh and also, out of interest.... Why Boris is such a bad choice.
Heading off to work in a bit, so look forward to a nice detailed reply
Right now everything said has about as much foundation as the house nextdoor to me.... and we know what happened to that
04 September 2007, 09:56 AM
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Purely from the passion in the wording of that, I can tell this is someone who understands what living in London with that idiot Ken at the helm is like.
Congestion Zone, to be priced based on what car you drive and its emissions..... Errm.... wtf does that have to do with "congestion" Call it a clean air charge and fair enough. But no! It was sold to London as something that would keep London moving.
A few years in, its extending, with only a 6% reduction in traffic. The 6% who simply cant afford it, so have been forced onto public transport.
Public Transport, the now rip off, unless you subscribe to THEIR way of thinking and plan your journey so far ahead that you have an Oyster card. No adhoc trips to the centre of town. Oh no, you are penalised and charged DOUBLE the fare on a bus for DARING not to use an Oyster card.
But public transport IS the future, we are told.
Congestion Zone extension.. well thought out. Due to the 90% reduction that residents of Kensington and Chelsea now get on the over all charge, its now once again cheaper for them to drive their "Chelsea Tractors" to work in town again now. Well done Ken. Central Zone worked a treat, then you reduced the charge to the biggest target of the charge to 80p a day. Rendering the charge as good as useless.
Oooh now I see, thats why its going up to £25 a day for 4x4's to recover from the **** up!
Just a couple of topics of "Living in London" brings to mind.
Whats the slogan again "Love London" or is it "I love Londoners.... fookin mugs" The Zone is now planned to extend SE towards Blackheath, rendering more of Londons roads no go zones. And creating "passage ways" through the areas, which actually CAUSES congestion.
You can travel straight through the heart of London without paying a bean.... As long as you go straight up Vauxhall Bridge Road (over Vauxhall bridge, already one of London's busiest, and now Central London's ONLY free bridge.) Up past Buck Palace, up Park Lane, Marble Arch, Edgware Road.
NONE of these roads needed any more traffic on them, however now they crawl along as people scurry to avoid the £8 a day fee to travel through London, driving their already heavily taxed cars, with expensive road tax thats nothing about roads at all, using fuel @ 70% tax, and becoming a statistic of "Londons Blight"
For 10 years, speed humps have been put up to PREVENT rat runs... and now Ken with one amazing act has just created what I expect is the UK's LARGEST rat run!
Nowt wrong with Red Ken eh *****!
Congestion Zone, to be priced based on what car you drive and its emissions..... Errm.... wtf does that have to do with "congestion" Call it a clean air charge and fair enough. But no! It was sold to London as something that would keep London moving.
A few years in, its extending, with only a 6% reduction in traffic. The 6% who simply cant afford it, so have been forced onto public transport.
Public Transport, the now rip off, unless you subscribe to THEIR way of thinking and plan your journey so far ahead that you have an Oyster card. No adhoc trips to the centre of town. Oh no, you are penalised and charged DOUBLE the fare on a bus for DARING not to use an Oyster card.
But public transport IS the future, we are told.
Congestion Zone extension.. well thought out. Due to the 90% reduction that residents of Kensington and Chelsea now get on the over all charge, its now once again cheaper for them to drive their "Chelsea Tractors" to work in town again now. Well done Ken. Central Zone worked a treat, then you reduced the charge to the biggest target of the charge to 80p a day. Rendering the charge as good as useless.
Oooh now I see, thats why its going up to £25 a day for 4x4's to recover from the **** up!
Just a couple of topics of "Living in London" brings to mind.
Whats the slogan again "Love London" or is it "I love Londoners.... fookin mugs" The Zone is now planned to extend SE towards Blackheath, rendering more of Londons roads no go zones. And creating "passage ways" through the areas, which actually CAUSES congestion.
You can travel straight through the heart of London without paying a bean.... As long as you go straight up Vauxhall Bridge Road (over Vauxhall bridge, already one of London's busiest, and now Central London's ONLY free bridge.) Up past Buck Palace, up Park Lane, Marble Arch, Edgware Road.
NONE of these roads needed any more traffic on them, however now they crawl along as people scurry to avoid the £8 a day fee to travel through London, driving their already heavily taxed cars, with expensive road tax thats nothing about roads at all, using fuel @ 70% tax, and becoming a statistic of "Londons Blight"
For 10 years, speed humps have been put up to PREVENT rat runs... and now Ken with one amazing act has just created what I expect is the UK's LARGEST rat run!
Nowt wrong with Red Ken eh
*****! BBC NEWS | England | London | Tube strike causes travel chaos
04 September 2007, 11:27 AM
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Says it all really!
I only use public transport when going to hospital for appointments really, as I refuse to park in the car parks unsecurely for a fortune. And in case I cant drive home lol.
Talk about monopolise movement in London eh.
Use our system or stay the **** out!
I was hoping to see more of a response from Pete, after all there has been a lot said from his camp, but very little to back it up. Aaaah well, what else could be expected.
Come on Boris.... You are the right man for the job.
04 September 2007, 11:33 AM
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Came into the office , a journey that has been taking under a hour for 40 miles because of the school holidays. But oh no, not today. Because of the tube strike and ken's refusal to bloody even listen to the unions, London came to a standstill this morning and my journey took 2 hours. Just sheer weight of the extra cars that people have used instead of the tubes and guess what ??
Did Ken suspend the C-charge for these 3 days ?
Did he think, hang on the C-Charge is meant to go to improve the public transport system and since it is not in operation, maybe I should suspend the charge ?
Did he ****
No..today and for the next few days, he is going to absolutely coin it in, in charges and penalties, enough money probably to bloody pay for the extra demands that the tube unions want The guy is a complete tosser of the highest order and is no good for this capital city
04 September 2007, 11:58 AM
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The only good thing our Ken has done is made/force people and companies to realise that London is not the only place in the UK.
Thanks to his efforts regarding daft transport policies and ineffect "London tax", it has made people realise there are cheaper and more lucrative business and work alternatives outside of London; thats good for everyone who lives outside London
...or maybe not so good if one recieves an influx of cockney migrants....
C'mon Boris
Thanks to his efforts regarding daft transport policies and ineffect "London tax", it has made people realise there are cheaper and more lucrative business and work alternatives outside of London; thats good for everyone who lives outside London
...or maybe not so good if one recieves an influx of cockney migrants....
C'mon Boris
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04 September 2007, 12:00 PM
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A perfect example this morning
Came into the office , a journey that has been taking under a hour for 40 miles because of the school holidays. But oh no, not today. Because of the tube strike and ken's refusal to bloody even listen to the unions, London came to a standstill this morning and my journey took 2 hours. Just sheer weight of the extra cars that people have used instead of the tubes and guess what ??
Did Ken suspend the C-charge for these 3 days ?
Did he think, hang on the C-Charge is meant to go to improve the public transport system and since it is not in operation, maybe I should suspend the charge ?
Did he **** No..today and for the next few days, he is going to absolutely coin it in, in charges and penalties, enough money probably to bloody pay for the extra demands that the tube unions want
The guy is a complete tosser of the highest order and is no good for this capital city
Came into the office , a journey that has been taking under a hour for 40 miles because of the school holidays. But oh no, not today. Because of the tube strike and ken's refusal to bloody even listen to the unions, London came to a standstill this morning and my journey took 2 hours. Just sheer weight of the extra cars that people have used instead of the tubes and guess what ??
Did Ken suspend the C-charge for these 3 days ?
Did he think, hang on the C-Charge is meant to go to improve the public transport system and since it is not in operation, maybe I should suspend the charge ?
Did he ****
No..today and for the next few days, he is going to absolutely coin it in, in charges and penalties, enough money probably to bloody pay for the extra demands that the tube unions want The guy is a complete tosser of the highest order and is no good for this capital city
You know the only time they wave the CC is when its low volume and they will not make money from it all. Xmas and NY.... far too expensive to have staff working getting premium rate pay, with so few cars on the move.
So it suddenly becomes FREE, and is given as a "gift"
CC money does not really go into improving public transport FACT.
CC is NOT about reducing congestion.
CC is not about reducing emissions
CC has not had any real impact other than causing more traffic, and driving small businesses out.
When the mayor's role was reintroduced.... it was for the good of London. So instead of using the property budget to renovate and restore one of the much loved buildings of London, and making that their office, they took a prime location, next to Tower Bridge, and built a wobbly building.
The Mayor Role is an important one, and COULD help London. Unfortunatly Ken "SS" Livingstone does not really care about London as he claims, but wishes to fulfil his childhood dream of banning cars from London.
Mug!
04 September 2007, 12:02 PM
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Boris would get my vote any day over that an excuse for a mayor we have now.
I can also suggest a complete manifesto that will guarantee him victory:
1: Abolish the congestion charge
2: er, that's it...
I can also suggest a complete manifesto that will guarantee him victory:
1: Abolish the congestion charge
2: er, that's it...
04 September 2007, 12:06 PM
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The only good thing our Ken has done is made/force people and companies to realise that London is not the only place in the UK.
Thanks to his efforts regarding daft transport policies and ineffect "London tax", it has made people realise there are cheaper and more lucrative business and work alternatives outside of London; thats good for everyone who lives outside London
...or maybe not so good if one recieves an influx of cockney migrants....
C'mon Boris
Thanks to his efforts regarding daft transport policies and ineffect "London tax", it has made people realise there are cheaper and more lucrative business and work alternatives outside of London; thats good for everyone who lives outside London
...or maybe not so good if one recieves an influx of cockney migrants....
C'mon Boris
MK has seen a boom as people have realised its not the only place in the world lol.
But at the same time, its sad to see people losing jobs as businesses relocate to the midlands.
lol @ the cockney migrants.
C.mon Boris, and long live London.
04 September 2007, 12:14 PM
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Boris HATES bendy buses, thank god someone does. Roads are too small, corners too tight and bus garages too small for them.
The one thing I want to see someone tackle, is the school run. There is NO NEED for that many cars to be making 1 mile journies all at the same time. In the same breath, maybe it would tackle the teenage obisity problem too. Walking and school buses are the way.
Every town has large supermarkets, placed in sensible areas with good access/egress. A fleet of school buses to take the kiddies in to school would take a large number of cars off the roads from the more residential streets at peak times.
"Tackle a thug" is a brave, a bit worrying, but at the same time in a certain respect the right way.
He is into real time policing, not reactive policing.
Lots going for the guy
Sure he has his weaknesses, but his whole persona has got him on the public radar, so people actually know what he is about, rather than Ken "I live under a damp safe rock by a waterfall" Livingstone.
04 September 2007, 12:37 PM
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Clearly nothing constructive towards the actual thread you started.
I think you will find Mr Tony Blair lowered the age of concentual homosexual sex in the UK to 16, by forcing it through after the vote went against him.
What a bugger!
Anyway, about Ken and the "asset" Please............... do go on.
Oh and the Boris debate too, why he is such bad news for the city you ave not visited for 10 years
I think you will find Mr Tony Blair lowered the age of concentual homosexual sex in the UK to 16, by forcing it through after the vote went against him.
What a bugger!
Anyway, about Ken and the "asset" Please............... do go on.
Oh and the Boris debate too, why he is such bad news for the city you ave not visited for 10 years
04 September 2007, 01:04 PM
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I would applaud to that, as the theory was great, but like most things he has done... its a frickin mess. Come see the great cycle paths one day!
Some of them are superb, I use them
Others, utter rubbish. Otherwise why would Boris, who coincidently uses the cycle network daily, complain of how dangerous they are.... Being forced to ride along side the bendy buses, another of the great Ken's introductions.Boris for PM.... he would get my vote. I can just see the first PMQ's now. They would be a YouTube classic for sure
04 September 2007, 01:14 PM
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Most definatly mate. Seb Coe and the UK Olympic committie had **** all to do with it at all. Your so right. Well done Ken!
Glad to see you have nothing else to offer on the issues then Pete, clearly a very serious and passionate post in the first place
pslewis for Mayor of London. Just like Ken, he aint got a clue!
04 September 2007, 01:22 PM
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Naaaa dont worry about that. Instead of spending money on assisting the traffic thru the area and the Blackwall Tunnel, they are just going to increase the traffic by making it another CC gateway (rat run), forcing more traffic onto it daily.
By 2012 it will be pedestrianised
By the time the Olympics arrive Ken will be out, Boris will be in, and he might stand a chance of making it work.
As for the mass of added volume to London's roads around all the venues for the event, thats yet to be seen. Maybe shut London to UK residents and workers for 2 weeks to allow tourists and Olympic people to move about.
Or how about raise the CC to £50 a day for anyone wanting to drive in London over that time.
By 2012 it will be pedestrianised
By the time the Olympics arrive Ken will be out, Boris will be in, and he might stand a chance of making it work.
As for the mass of added volume to London's roads around all the venues for the event, thats yet to be seen. Maybe shut London to UK residents and workers for 2 weeks to allow tourists and Olympic people to move about.
Or how about raise the CC to £50 a day for anyone wanting to drive in London over that time.
04 September 2007, 01:28 PM
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I had the mis-fortune of going to London yesterday, we got a Taxi from Euston to the new City Point building, it cant have been more then 4 miles but took 20 minutes at about 10:30 am.(Not bad)
Now the good bit at 6pm the tube went on strike, the Taxi we where in advised us to walk in the end as in 40 minutes we had covered 200 yds, through some nice back runs i must admit but made no real progress to the station.
London traffic is a joke i cannot belive people put up with that sh#t day in and day out, several people who i was meeting with yesterday all live and work in London and all of them want Boris in and Ken to take a stroll down the Thames wearing lead boots.
How the congestion charge can be judged as a success is beyond me.
Now the good bit at 6pm the tube went on strike, the Taxi we where in advised us to walk in the end as in 40 minutes we had covered 200 yds, through some nice back runs i must admit but made no real progress to the station.
London traffic is a joke i cannot belive people put up with that sh#t day in and day out, several people who i was meeting with yesterday all live and work in London and all of them want Boris in and Ken to take a stroll down the Thames wearing lead boots.
How the congestion charge can be judged as a success is beyond me.
04 September 2007, 01:32 PM
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With all due respect please feel free to shut your trap on this thread then. Some of your posts are good, some are funny and some are stupid. You can guess where I rate this thread .
My whole tech team goes in and out of London and we absolutely hate it. They are doing all they can to force everyone to use public transport but are making it such a rip off that you are stuffed pretty well whatever you do. Suffer traffic in the car or suffer being ripped off and stuck in to trains/tubes like sweaty sardines. London is a nasty armpit of a place, Ken has done his best to make it go further down the toilet. I pretty well refuse to travel there tbh.
Ken doesn't just need to be voted out, the man needs to die.
.My whole tech team goes in and out of London and we absolutely hate it. They are doing all they can to force everyone to use public transport but are making it such a rip off that you are stuffed pretty well whatever you do. Suffer traffic in the car or suffer being ripped off and stuck in to trains/tubes like sweaty sardines. London is a nasty armpit of a place, Ken has done his best to make it go further down the toilet. I pretty well refuse to travel there tbh.
Ken doesn't just need to be voted out, the man needs to die
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04 September 2007, 01:36 PM
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My thread was laughing at Boris putting his name forward ........ it's still a joke as we all know!!
04 September 2007, 01:37 PM
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I had the mis-fortune of going to London yesterday, we got a Taxi from Euston to the new City Point building, it cant have been more then 4 miles but took 20 minutes at about 10:30 am.(Not bad)
Now the good bit at 6pm the tube went on strike, the Taxi we where in advised us to walk in the end as in 40 minutes we had covered 200 yds, through some nice back runs i must admit but made no real progress to the station.
London traffic is a joke i cannot belive people put up with that sh#t day in and day out, several people who i was meeting with yesterday all live and work in London and all of them want Boris in and Ken to take a stroll down the Thames wearing lead boots.
How the congestion charge can be judged as a success is beyond me.
Now the good bit at 6pm the tube went on strike, the Taxi we where in advised us to walk in the end as in 40 minutes we had covered 200 yds, through some nice back runs i must admit but made no real progress to the station.
London traffic is a joke i cannot belive people put up with that sh#t day in and day out, several people who i was meeting with yesterday all live and work in London and all of them want Boris in and Ken to take a stroll down the Thames wearing lead boots.
How the congestion charge can be judged as a success is beyond me.
Proper nightmare traffic around that part of London, and indeed not pleasent. Prob one of the reasons the 7/7 bombers targetted it, getting in and out is almost impossible.
Your comments though, as a visitor to London... If you can see it, and recognise that living in the area is a problem, then it clearly is. Just a typical day in London, and an experience which would in no way encourage you to return through choice.
As for the CC, after the traffic light tampering issues, and then the initial drop in traffic dying down and ending in only a 6% drop in traffic, I would say FAR from a success. But a great money spinner. Just like road tax though.... where the hell is it all going?