Interesting, I downloaded and installed some demos on it, and they were just fine, just dowload, install and play, and the same for the 360. No problems on either.

Geezer

 

We only have five senses.

 

You haven't given any reasons of note though. It will have the games. So it has the potential to be fantastic but isn't it the games that unleash that potential? The 360 was in the same position in that it only had a few titles of note at first but I'd say there's about 20 now that stand out as very good games. That is what is making the 360 as a games console very good. The fact is it didn't have any competition at the time so it could afford to not have many good games. In that respect the PS3 doesn't IMHO.

annoys you? I'd say you're one of the only people who would think that. It adds so much to games IMHO sometimes without you even noticing be it the recoil of a gun being fired or the tyre running over a rumble strip. It helps you gain a feel for the game but I'll accept you don't like that.

Thanks for the reply.

 

Some interesting comments here.

I happen to be with Geezer when we have 'reviewed' both of these machines and I agree with pretty much everything he states, (and we are not even in luv or anything ).

As far as the driving games go, my preference is reality, aka GT Legends etc, so PGR3 did seem pretty awful, though pretty to look at. There is simply no substitute for a decent wheel IMHO.

Even Gears of War, which looked great, was ultimately frustrating when you were making minute adjustments to the right hand joystick to try and pinpoint the enemy, and seeing the crosshair dance around him (while he is shooting the cr4p out of you!).

I have to admit that Guitar Hero was a real laugh and Motorstorm was fun because it wasn't a serious racetrack type game.

All my opinions though.

blubs

ps I am right tho

 

Since the last dashboard update with the fixes to both dvd playback and hddvd playback the 360 is virtually silent on movie playback

 

did you try and adjust the controller sensitivity in the game options?

 

Fair enough you dislike those two things but they aren't a 360 phenomenon you know?

I'm putting both your opinions in the clueless box for now until you prove otherwise

 

I have 2, but you can rent them through lovefilm now. Aside from blueray which is probably one in ten movies played, the PS3 is a better dvd player just on the fact that it is much quieter!

Still has its niggles though....controller is a pain for controlling a movie and it won't play back up DVD's, unlike the 360.

 

Not on mine....sounds like I'll have to make use of that extended warranty...

 

Unless you have your volume on mute then you cant here the 360 drive during dvd playback

Just read your above post, did you do the last update ?

 

I agree with the noise thing, as soon as that disc starts spinning I have to double the volume of my TV.

 

Geezer, I found your review interesting, thanks

The games will come on the PS3, but the big kicker for me is reliability. If MS got that sorted, I could be provoked into buying one, but until then, I'm getting neither, but waiting more for the PS3 to reduce in price, and the bargain bucket to get full of PS3 games (ok I may be waiting a long time ).

Maybe I've been lucky in the past, but my SNES, Gamecube, PS1, PS2, XBox, Wii (and the missus plethora of Gameboy variants) have never failed at all in their lifetime, most of them being 3+ years. I'm still not prepared to go and buy a console that a lot of people have issues with. Some people may be prepared to take that risk, but I'm still waiting for the storm to settle. The PS3 is also still too young for me to decide if they've built them properly yet

On the online thing, I must be a weirdo in that I find online multiplayer stuff somewhat a turn off

So, at the moment, I (me, sat here typing) don't see anything in either console to make me rush out and buy one. Next gen? My ****, or more politely, not yet (IMHO). Guys, enjoy what you have for the reasons you like them, in the meantime, I'd welcome more comparison reviews from people that have played both and bring forth your personal issues on both.

 

I was the same about online play but actually you know what other people can be Ok... I was shocked!

 

The PS2 had known issues with the dvd drive and a lot of customers did have to return them for replacement, albeit it not as bad as MS's returns rate, maybe this will help the problem.

Full Story: San Jose Mercury News - Home

 

From the BBC news this morning, in an article about Xbox ....

"The award-winning first-person shooter Gears of Wars was also unveiled for Windows PCs."

There is a god................

Geezer

 

Interesting subjective review But that is it, as the poster has stated, it's their opinion.

There does seem to be an element of 360 fanboy coming in to play here - which is fine, but put it in to context.

I'm on my 2nd 360 (waiting for my cheque & warrantee ) - the PS3 doesn't interest me, purely because it doesn't seem like a mature-gamer's machine. The same was with the PS2 etc.

The 360 does everything I want it to do. Simple.

This is my point - I prefer the 360. Others will prefer the PS3. End of

However, my final point will be about the percieved graphics quality of the machines. It doesn't actually matter, as eye-candy alone does not a great game make PGR3, for example , may not be the best graphically, but bear in mind how old it is, and the gameplay is great. Especially on-line.

Dan

 

yeah - and its twice the size...5 new "acts" according to Cliffy B.

 

Interesting how people have different tastes. I personally thought PGR3 was one of the worst games on the 360 gameplay wise. Bad AI, bumper car online play, the graphics aren't great, and it was a lot smaller than PGR2. PGR4 is looking promising though

Just read a transcript of the Microsoft E3 presentation. There's so many good games coming out for the machine between now and the end of the year. Think I need to get a 2nd job (although then I wouldn't have time to play them ).

Looking forward to hearing what they say in the Sony presentation...

 

Perhaps I should have said not so much gameplay, but playing the game
Yes, it's not accurate, but it's an arcade game with some simulator stuff in it.
Moreso, in terms of gameplay, I enjoyed the game immensely, but it is really showing its age against Forza....

Dan

 

If I had to pick either PGR3 or Forza 2, I'd probably go with PGR3 - I just think its more enjoyable to play, I'm sure someone with think otherwise. I'm nearing the end of Forza 2, and I think I'll probably be selling it on once I've bought the last of the cars, there are so many other games I'd like to play that by the time I've finished them and am ready to possibly play Forza 2 again, then there'll be a shedload of new games available, Halo 3, PGR4, Half Life 2, Bioshock - and add to that some forthcoming titles on the PS3 then I just dont think I'll play it again for a long time...

 

For me, Forza2 online takes some beating...

i much prefer the "switch on and go" on a console over a PC and not to mention how game developers require a higher and higher spec to play these things on.

being it IT for a job, the console is a welcoming troublefree games medium and for me the Xbox360 fits the purpose 100%.

ok, its microsoft, and ok its noisy, but stick a headset on and ram some yanks off the track online, and it doesn't get much better IMHO.

Dazza (off to write my name over a few more cars......)


thanks for the review though, made good reading

 

bob, I'm hoping too that the 65nm chips will improve things, but given the history, that will cause me to wait another 12 months to see if that has its own problems. Yeah, I may well be missing out on all these lovely games that are available, but when I'll be picking them up for 5 or 10 pound a time from the bargain bin, I'll be a happy man

In the meantime, I'll crack on with my 113+ hours on FF XII on my trusty PS2 and hopefully get round to finishing Scarface on the XBox