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Old 07 June 2007, 04:36 PM
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sorry - dont know much about this infraction thing. Amazed that I got one for this thread thats all. Is it only SN + members that can do it?

/me search all plus members on this thread for the culprit
Old 07 June 2007, 04:37 PM
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dynamix, you haver been infracted for post #50 for trolling

and it was not me
Old 07 June 2007, 04:38 PM
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yes, its only plus members. if its wrong it will be reversed, then i can see who got the reversed points

but you have to take it into policy. it was my thread and in my opinion you was not trolling, just irritating
Old 07 June 2007, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
Why do they have a right to know what happens to it? If I walked up to you in the street and gave you £10 I'd have no right to know what you then decided to spend it on.
If you walked up to me in the street and ASKED me for £10 (the true sole purpose of the maddy website) I would ASK you what you wanted it for. If it was for beers and ****** I would probably lend it to you. If you wanted to buy make-up or a marmite, I would tell you to **** off.

Now, as that two way conversation can't happen on maddys website (because the parents are having tea at Bonos house or playing croquet with the Chuckle Brothers, so dont have time), then rather than teasing cash out of the mentally inept by way of guilt, it is morally right for the website to make clear what this money is to be spent on...

If you cant agree with that, then there really is no point in you ever having money - you may as well just get paid at the end of the month, withdraw the lot and bbq it!
Old 07 June 2007, 04:43 PM
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how many points do you need for a ban?
Old 07 June 2007, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
For those who don't believe this case adds up, you're not alone.

http://community.verizon.net/thread.jspa?threadID=1700001824
very interesting article - great find
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
how many points do you need for a ban?
depends on what they are for, usually about 4
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Originally Posted by Abdabz
If you walked up to me in the street and ASKED me for £10 (the true sole purpose of the maddy website) I would ASK you what you wanted it for. If it was for beers and ****** I would probably lend it to you. If you wanted to buy make-up or a marmite, I would tell you to **** off.

Now, as that two way conversation can't happen on maddys website (because the parents are having tea at Bonos house or playing croquet with the Chuckle Brothers, so dont have time), then rather than teasing cash out of the mentally inept by way of guilt, it is morally right for the website to make clear what this money is to be spent on...

If you cant agree with that, then there really is no point in you ever having money - you may as well just get paid at the end of the month, withdraw the lot and bbq it!
totally different. the website was set up to deal with the money people were sending to them. They didn't start out asking for money. It was offered.
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
yes, its only plus members. if its wrong it will be reversed, then i can see who got the reversed points

but you have to take it into policy. it was my thread and in my opinion you was not trolling, just irritating
I can live with being irritating ... its not the first time that has been used to describe me
Old 07 June 2007, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
This isnt about the money though at this stage.

They should be criminally charged for their negligence and irresponsible parenting even if they have nothing to do with her disappearance. This is the thing that winds me up.
I agree, regardless of the outcome they must both be prosecuted and social services need to closely monitor the upbringing of the two remaining toddlers on their return to the UK. They are clearly neglectfull and incompetent.
It wont happen though because the are wealthy and coherent... God bless our class based country
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Originally Posted by dynamix
I can live with being irritating ... its not the first time that has been used to describe me


this infraction thing sure stops people from saying what they really want to
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
depends on what they are for, usually about 4
handy to know
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Originally Posted by sarasquares


this infraction thing sure stops people from saying what they really want to
ok - my points have been reversed

Democracy is alive after all
Old 07 June 2007, 04:50 PM
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Just because Gerry is a high flying Cardiologist doesnt mean he isnt capable of doing something to his own child.

Take the guy in London earlier this week the Millionaire business man who heads up Swiss Re, beats his own daughter to death and now claims he is mentally ill.

Too many things dont add up, who was having dinner with the parents, 8 close friends, so close they havent appeared to back up the parents claims.

In all murder/abduction cases the last person to see the victim, in this case Gerry is the chief suspect until proven innocent. Again both parents are too controlled and if the girl went missing in Portugal can i ask why they are jetting around Holland,Germany and Italy letting somebody else search for the missing child they so care about.

Ohh and her mum must continue with her daily jogging routine, missing daughter or not one must not stop keeping fit.

The smell of fish around the pair of them continues to increase along with the bundles of cash they must have.
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Originally Posted by dynamix
I can live with being irritating ... its not the first time that has been used to describe me
I think thrush would be an appropriate nickname
Old 07 June 2007, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
totally different. the website was set up to deal with the money people were sending to them. They didn't start out asking for money. It was offered.
Then the family should have just asked for donations to go the NSPCC or other charidee then... They need no money from the public for their cause. There is no need for the fund.
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Originally Posted by Abdabz
I agree, regardless of the outcome they must both be prosecuted and social services need to closely monitor the upbringing of the two remaining toddlers on their return to the UK. They are clearly neglectfull and incompetent.
It wont happen though because the are wealthy and coherent... God bless our class based country
there is a whole world of difference between a parent who leaves their child unattended and a parent who has physically abused etc their child. if they had left maddie and nothing had happened to her then we would never have heard anything of it.


this is PC gone mad!

their crime was an unintentional one
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Originally Posted by dynamix
ok - my points have been reversed

Democracy is alive after all
so have mine, moff to look at plus members accounts now
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this is PC gone mad!

their crime was an unintentional one[/QUOTE]

What if they murdered her, is that unintentional ?
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Originally Posted by ZIPPY
this is PC gone mad!

their crime was an unintentional one
What if they murdered her, is that unintentional ?[/quote]




innocent until proven guilty!
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
there is a whole world of difference between a parent who leaves their child unattended and a parent who has physically abused etc their child. if they had left maddie and nothing had happened to her then we would never have heard anything of it.


this is PC gone mad!

their crime was an unintentional one
Ahh cool, so it's OK to leave toddlers under the supervision of a 2 year old while you go out on the p155 then (as long as it's only your local)?

It's OK if they get kidnapped orinjured, burn the house down or simply wander off because it's not the parents fault - they didnt 'intend' for anything bad to happen!!??!

Excellent - babysitters will cease to be! Ahh hang on... In this country (and I think in Portugal too) that act is illegal...

You're right! To not hope the parents are prosecuted and supervised by British Social services is PC gone mad! In fact it's more liberal than Charles Kennedys favourite tumbler!
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
I think thrush would be an appropriate nickname
that's kind of abusive but I'm going to let it slide this once

Sara - it was "intentional" or were they dragged from the apartment kicking and screaming?

How many times have people been procecuted for wreckless driving for being 'unintentionally' over the speed limit, or driving without due care etc. A crime is a crime and their's is more than that, it should sicken every parent due to the repeated nature of it. There should be no caviat or mitigating circumstances - simple fact they had several choices:

1 - take the kids out to dinner with them - never a problem in a med country
2 - use the in house baby sitting service
3 - stay in or have one of the group of 8 stay in with them
4 - wrecklessly leave the children on their own without locking the patio doors.

They chose number 4.
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Are The twins still with a member of their family? This I find quite astonishing.
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Originally Posted by Abdabz
Ahh cool, so it's OK to leave toddlers under the supervision of a 2 year old while you go out on the p155 then (as long as it's only your local)?

It's OK if they get kidnapped orinjured, burn the house down or simply wander off because it's not the parents fault - they didnt 'intend' for anything bad to happen!!??!

Excellent - babysitters will cease to be! Ahh hang on... In this country (and I think in Portugal too) that act is illegal...

You're right! To not hope the parents are prosecuted and supervised by British Social services is PC gone mad! In fact it's more liberal than Charles Kennedys favourite tumbler!
can you tell me what sort of baby sitting service there was at the hotel?

i would never trust the baby sitting service on holiday to complete strangers. but that not saying that i would leave my child unattended.
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still leaves you 2 options though sara - both of which would have safeguarded their daughter
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Originally Posted by dynamix
that's kind of abusive but I'm going to let it slide this once

Sara - it was "intentional" or were they dragged from the apartment kicking and screaming?

How many times have people been procecuted for wreckless driving for being 'unintentionally' over the speed limit, or driving without due care etc. A crime is a crime and their's is more than that, it should sicken every parent due to the repeated nature of it. There should be no caviat or mitigating circumstances - simple fact they had several choices:

1 - take the kids out to dinner with them - never a problem in a med country
2 - use the in house baby sitting service
3 - stay in or have one of the group of 8 stay in with them
4 - wrecklessly leave the children on their own without locking the patio doors.

They chose number 4.




they chose an option where they could see the apartment. they thought it was safe. it wasnt. they are being treated in here the same as you would expect a pedophile to be treated
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they can see through fences now?
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
can you tell me what sort of baby sitting service there was at the hotel?

i would never trust the baby sitting service on holiday to complete strangers. but that not saying that i would leave my child unattended.
If the child friendly resort the familt chose had inadequate baby sitting facilities then the family should have made other arrangements for their evening time.
1/ Earlier meals with the kids in high chairs at the table
2/ Takeway / bbq on the patio of their apartment
3/ Staggering their dining so the kids have family / friend supervision.

I know you wouldnt leave your child unattended Miss Squarseypants, but what urks me is a soft soft approach on the parents by some of the public and currently all of the media.
Their despicably selfish act led directly to the fate of that poor girl. Whatever happened after they made the decision to leave them alone is as a direct result of their negelectful actions.
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Originally Posted by dynamix
still leaves you 2 options though sara - both of which would have safeguarded their daughter
you are right, but just because they chose the stoopid option it does not mean that they are involved


i am a parent of older children plus i have a 6 year old daughter. when my kids were younger i was less wise than i am now
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Does anybody know how long they where in Portugal before the abduction took place ?
It has never been reported but an un-named member of Hotel staff has reported the kids where in the crech all day every day and the parents where always out in the evening without them leading up to the mysterious dissapearance of the eldest daughter.

The parents are not telling the whole story sorry if it seems unaceptable to some but something isnt right about Mummy and Daddy and the grief they are suffering.

The mum does have a good make up artist and hair stylist though dont you think, she always looks impeccable.


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