think there might be some news on Maddie...
07 June 2007, 03:29 PM
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nope DCI - seems it is me too. Obviously having a differing viewpoint is intimidating to the sheep mentality that want to ignore the facts.
Anyone else?
STI Wanna Subaru - hahaha, why would I donate to a pair of numpties that dont deserve children?
Anyone else?
STI Wanna Subaru - hahaha, why would I donate to a pair of numpties that dont deserve children?
07 June 2007, 03:37 PM
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Its not winding me up.
I am just expressing my viewpoint that there is something fishy about this whole event... not once have I been abusive to anyone or angry.
Kind of like infracting someone for expressing their view without telling them why - obviously if you want to hide behind that system them please, infract away. Obviously you all know that my history of trolling is extensive
I am just expressing my viewpoint that there is something fishy about this whole event... not once have I been abusive to anyone or angry.
Kind of like infracting someone for expressing their view without telling them why - obviously if you want to hide behind that system them please, infract away. Obviously you all know that my history of trolling is extensive
07 June 2007, 03:46 PM
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People are daft at times....
Little girl goes missing abroad, public outpouring of sympathy..... the public feel helpless and fear the worst, they WANT to 'help'... I mean that's what we do in a horrible situations such as this, and where we can't physically help we help in other ways such as cash donations etc.
But the flaw is the public believe that these donations are needed/used in the search, and more often than not they aren't, the British Government assists, there are insurance slush funds, the papers pay for exclusives and stories.... and so on....
The cash will sit there untouched until such a time as the hunt is called off and private investigations commence, when they do the fund will last a couple of years and pay for what the McCanns get for free now. Which nobody begrudges, or SHOULD begrudge them.
The problem is when a fund such as this hits the £1million mark, there are no obligations what to spend the fund on, no obligations what to do with it once the child is found (as in give all it to a charity) and no real scrutiny on what or how its spent.
The fault with this lies with the public, people should only pay into a registered charity or a fund that has clear guidelines on how the money will be spent/allocated, by who and when... and most importantly what happens to the surplus funds in the event that the child is found.
There, rant over
Little girl goes missing abroad, public outpouring of sympathy..... the public feel helpless and fear the worst, they WANT to 'help'... I mean that's what we do in a horrible situations such as this, and where we can't physically help we help in other ways such as cash donations etc.
But the flaw is the public believe that these donations are needed/used in the search, and more often than not they aren't, the British Government assists, there are insurance slush funds, the papers pay for exclusives and stories.... and so on....
The cash will sit there untouched until such a time as the hunt is called off and private investigations commence, when they do the fund will last a couple of years and pay for what the McCanns get for free now. Which nobody begrudges, or SHOULD begrudge them.
The problem is when a fund such as this hits the £1million mark, there are no obligations what to spend the fund on, no obligations what to do with it once the child is found (as in give all it to a charity) and no real scrutiny on what or how its spent.
The fault with this lies with the public, people should only pay into a registered charity or a fund that has clear guidelines on how the money will be spent/allocated, by who and when... and most importantly what happens to the surplus funds in the event that the child is found.
There, rant over
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People are daft at times....
Little girl goes missing abroad, public outpouring of sympathy..... the public feel helpless and fear the worst, they WANT to 'help'... I mean that's what we do in a horrible situations such as this, and where we can't physically help we help in other ways such as cash donations etc.
But the flaw is the public believe that these donations are needed/used in the search, and more often than not they aren't, the British Government assists, there are insurance slush funds, the papers pay for exclusives and stories.... and so on....
The cash will sit there untouched until such a time as the hunt is called off and private investigations commence, when they do the fund will last a couple of years and pay for what the McCanns get for free now. Which nobody begrudges, or SHOULD begrudge them.
The problem is when a fund such as this hits the £1million mark, there are no obligations what to spend the fund on, no obligations what to do with it once the child is found (as in give all it to a charity) and no real scrutiny on what or how its spent.
The fault with this lies with the public, people should only pay into a registered charity or a fund that has clear guidelines on how the money will be spent/allocated, by who and when... and most importantly what happens to the surplus funds in the event that the child is found.
There, rant over
Little girl goes missing abroad, public outpouring of sympathy..... the public feel helpless and fear the worst, they WANT to 'help'... I mean that's what we do in a horrible situations such as this, and where we can't physically help we help in other ways such as cash donations etc.
But the flaw is the public believe that these donations are needed/used in the search, and more often than not they aren't, the British Government assists, there are insurance slush funds, the papers pay for exclusives and stories.... and so on....
The cash will sit there untouched until such a time as the hunt is called off and private investigations commence, when they do the fund will last a couple of years and pay for what the McCanns get for free now. Which nobody begrudges, or SHOULD begrudge them.
The problem is when a fund such as this hits the £1million mark, there are no obligations what to spend the fund on, no obligations what to do with it once the child is found (as in give all it to a charity) and no real scrutiny on what or how its spent.
The fault with this lies with the public, people should only pay into a registered charity or a fund that has clear guidelines on how the money will be spent/allocated, by who and when... and most importantly what happens to the surplus funds in the event that the child is found.
There, rant over
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The British public will care (care is an interesting way of putting it), trust me...... if the childs found all attention will turn to the 'fund' ..... not saying its right or wrong but you know it'll happen
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Brits are just a moaning bunch a miserable *******s ultimately who like to complain and moan about anything to make their small pointless lives seem slightly more important.
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The cash will sit there untouched until such a time as the hunt is called off and private investigations commence, when they do the fund will last a couple of years and pay for what the McCanns get for free now. Which nobody begrudges, or SHOULD begrudge them.
I know, let's cut out the middle man, and go staight to private investigators! The police can spend all their time playing golf, or catching people 0.0000001 mph over the speed limit. We could even have a new tax for it, you know, like National Insurance is supposed to be for your welfare, we could have Crime Insurance tax. Sounds like an idea to me............
I'll collect the money, come on, send it in, I promise I won't abuse the system
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Does that mean we should now have a charity which funds private investigations after the police give up? Hell, there's thousands of unsolved crimes in the UK!
I know, let's cut out the middle man, and go staight to private investigators! The police can spend all their time playing golf, or catching people 0.0000001 mph over the speed limit. We could even have a new tax for it, you know, like National Insurance is supposed to be for your welfare, we could have Crime Insurance tax. Sounds like an idea to me............
I'll collect the money, come on, send it in, I promise I won't abuse the system
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I know, let's cut out the middle man, and go staight to private investigators! The police can spend all their time playing golf, or catching people 0.0000001 mph over the speed limit. We could even have a new tax for it, you know, like National Insurance is supposed to be for your welfare, we could have Crime Insurance tax. Sounds like an idea to me............
I'll collect the money, come on, send it in, I promise I won't abuse the system
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07 June 2007, 04:03 PM
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I wonder how many 'sign-ups' I'd get?
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07 June 2007, 04:05 PM
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If I came to your door saying I am after donations for my cause - wouldnt you want to know what that money was going to be spent on? or at least have some kind of safeguards in place to make you feel comfortable that your hard earned money has been used for what 'you' wanted it to be?
If not perhaps, you would like to donate to my 'charity'
07 June 2007, 04:08 PM
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I think you're missing the point.
If I came to your door saying I am after donations for my cause - wouldnt you want to know what that money was going to be spent on? or at least have some kind of safeguards in place to make you feel comfortable that your hard earned money has been used for what 'you' wanted it to be?
If not perhaps, you would like to donate to my 'charity'
If I came to your door saying I am after donations for my cause - wouldnt you want to know what that money was going to be spent on? or at least have some kind of safeguards in place to make you feel comfortable that your hard earned money has been used for what 'you' wanted it to be?
If not perhaps, you would like to donate to my 'charity'
It's different asking for money for a cause and people just donating of their own free will.
your posts all read like a bloke with a chip on his shoulder
07 June 2007, 04:17 PM
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You're the one missing the point. These people donated with no care as to how the money was spent if the money in any way may help find a 4 year old girl.. that being the point.
It's different asking for money for a cause and people just donating of their own free will.
your posts all read like a bloke with a chip on his shoulder
It's different asking for money for a cause and people just donating of their own free will.
your posts all read like a bloke with a chip on his shoulder
But you do accept the possibility that the public have been duped? I know what you're saying, but nevertheless, it is possible that the publics good will and sympathy towards something like this has been played on.
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I agree with some of the posts on here with regard the 'Fishy Smell' surronding this case.
For me the German reporter was right to ask yesterday if the parents had something to do with the abduction.
The father has never to me seemed that upset throughout and the mother says very very little.
Lets be honest if it was Wayne and Sharon on holiday in Benidorm who had gone the boozer and left the kids in the unlocked apartment everybody would be slating them and have lost interest long ago.
Do you honestly believe that some lower class family would have got to see his Holiness in a private meeting ? me neither.
By the way i do hope the little girl is found.
For me the German reporter was right to ask yesterday if the parents had something to do with the abduction.
The father has never to me seemed that upset throughout and the mother says very very little.
Lets be honest if it was Wayne and Sharon on holiday in Benidorm who had gone the boozer and left the kids in the unlocked apartment everybody would be slating them and have lost interest long ago.
Do you honestly believe that some lower class family would have got to see his Holiness in a private meeting ? me neither.
By the way i do hope the little girl is found.
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I'm sure they'll be all so happy they wont care. Hopefully they buy Maddie a nice big new house with lots of locks on the windows and doors, maybe hire a babysitter, get a nice big outdoor play area built complete with swimming pool. They'd need a nice big car to drive Maddie to school in. Maybe take a holiday or two to get over the ordeal. If they do the people who donated will applauded them I have no doubts!
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For those who don't believe this case adds up, you're not alone.
http://community.verizon.net/thread.jspa?threadID=1700001824
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I see, so you know, without a shadow of a doubt, that this is all above board? You are so certain that the events have happened exactly as the McGanns have said, that you cannot even entertain the possibilty that something underhanded has gone on?
With such knowledge, I'm surprised the police haven't enlisted your help........
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With such knowledge, I'm surprised the police haven't enlisted your help........
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I think you're missing the point.
If I came to your door saying I am after donations for my cause - wouldnt you want to know what that money was going to be spent on? or at least have some kind of safeguards in place to make you feel comfortable that your hard earned money has been used for what 'you' wanted it to be?
If not perhaps, you would like to donate to my 'charity'
If I came to your door saying I am after donations for my cause - wouldnt you want to know what that money was going to be spent on? or at least have some kind of safeguards in place to make you feel comfortable that your hard earned money has been used for what 'you' wanted it to be?
If not perhaps, you would like to donate to my 'charity'
I see adverts on the tele for the NSPCC - such as the funny one with the doll saying the same line time after time and I think how can I hand over my hard earned to a charity that spends all it's time telling me kiddies get a bad time of it, but never telling me what they actually do about it...
That on it's own is bad enough, but this McCann Euro 2007 tour fund is growing daily, (with millionaire business men paying for all the trips though) so the money doesnt seem to be needed to fund their dramatic jet set lifestyle so what is it for?
It isnt a registered charity but it's getting certain tax exemptions and when the girl is found the public (especially those dumb enough to have already handed over money) have a right to know what is going to happen to this massive amount of wonga..
Anyhoo - if this phone is genuine and it leads to her being found I will be happy but not as happy as when it is 4pm tomorrow and I can go to the pub.
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I see, so you know, without a shadow of a doubt, that this is all above board? You are so certain that the events have happened exactly as the McGanns have said, that you cannot even entertain the possibilty that something underhanded has gone on?
With such knowledge, I'm surprised the police haven't enlisted your help........
Geezer
With such knowledge, I'm surprised the police haven't enlisted your help........
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I am with you d. What kind of eejit would hand over money to ANY cause without knowing what it is to be spent on?
I see adverts on the tele for the NSPCC - such as the funny one with the doll saying the same line time after time and I think how can I hand over my hard earned to a charity that spends all it's time telling me kiddies get a bad time of it, but never telling me what they actually do about it...
That on it's own is bad enough, but this McCann Euro 2007 tour fund is growing daily, (with millionaire business men paying for all the trips though) so the money doesnt seem to be needed to fund their dramatic jet set lifestyle so what is it for?
It isnt a registered charity but it's getting certain tax exemptions and when the girl is found the public (especially those dumb enough to have already handed over money) have a right to know what is going to happen to this massive amount of wonga..
Anyhoo - if this phone is genuine and it leads to her being found I will be happy but not as happy as when it is 4pm tomorrow and I can go to the pub.
I see adverts on the tele for the NSPCC - such as the funny one with the doll saying the same line time after time and I think how can I hand over my hard earned to a charity that spends all it's time telling me kiddies get a bad time of it, but never telling me what they actually do about it...
That on it's own is bad enough, but this McCann Euro 2007 tour fund is growing daily, (with millionaire business men paying for all the trips though) so the money doesnt seem to be needed to fund their dramatic jet set lifestyle so what is it for?
It isnt a registered charity but it's getting certain tax exemptions and when the girl is found the public (especially those dumb enough to have already handed over money) have a right to know what is going to happen to this massive amount of wonga..
Anyhoo - if this phone is genuine and it leads to her being found I will be happy but not as happy as when it is 4pm tomorrow and I can go to the pub.
07 June 2007, 04:30 PM
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I'm sure they'll be all so happy they wont care. Hopefully they buy Maddie a nice big new house with lots of locks on the windows and doors, maybe hire a babysitter, get a nice big outdoor play area built complete with swimming pool. They'd need a nice big car to drive Maddie to school in. Maybe take a holiday or two to get over the ordeal. If they do the people who donated will applauded them I have no doubts!
I hope you are right and they will donate all the donations to a 'proper' charity or set up their own properly registered and run charity and do some good with it. I hope some good comes of the donations. Give it to child hospitals, childhood cancer charities, children of abusive parents, runaway children, whatever... they all need the money and would spend it wisely.
I hope they find Maddie.... no-one could possibly wish that she be in danger (apart from the kidnapper or abudcter).
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i think you are resorting to absurd comments now because you feel you are losing the argument. Stick with it and come up with something else a bit more convincing, I am sure you can do it. Here's an idea , why not infract someone if it makes you feel powerful
I hope you are right and they will donate all the donations to a 'proper' charity or set up their own properly registered and run charity and do some good with it. I hope some good comes of the donations. Give it to child hospitals, childhood cancer charities, children of abusive parents, runaway children, whatever... they all need the money and would spend it wisely.
I hope they find Maddie.... no-one could possibly wish that she be in danger (apart from the kidnapper or abudcter).
I hope you are right and they will donate all the donations to a 'proper' charity or set up their own properly registered and run charity and do some good with it. I hope some good comes of the donations. Give it to child hospitals, childhood cancer charities, children of abusive parents, runaway children, whatever... they all need the money and would spend it wisely.
I hope they find Maddie.... no-one could possibly wish that she be in danger (apart from the kidnapper or abudcter).
you have some mild Infraction obsession. I cant tell if it's aimed at me or somebody else. I have neither the power or the inkling to infract anybody. I'm quite happy to discuss it in open regarding whatever the point is about.