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Old May 16, 2007 | 11:57 PM
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My alcons arrived but unfortuantely there was a mix up and i only got sent a 4 pot kit

The guys are being really helpfull however due to a massive production order for Bentley cars my new Alcon 6 pots wont be with me for 14 days

Ho humm...
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Old May 17, 2007 | 04:43 AM
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Seriously, these are obviously magnifiscent brakes. But are they are direct fit for a Scoob vs a 2-ton Bentley? Please take good advice. The worst case scenario is that you need to change your front-rear balance bias valve (Harvey does them for about £10).

Don't mean to be alarmist, but you need your rears to be be operating optimum or the thing wil be an uncontrollable snake in an emergency.

Good luck!

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Old May 17, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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Seriously, these are obviously magnifiscent brakes. But are they are direct fit for a Scoob vs a 2-ton Bentley? Please take good advice. The worst case scenario is that you need to change your front-rear balance bias valve (Harvey does them for about £10).

Don't mean to be alarmist, but you need your rears to be be operating optimum or the thing wil be an uncontrollable snake in an emergency.

Good luck!

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The Bentley brakes are completely different mate.. all i meant im my thread was that theyre busy with a big order for Bentley so are having difficulty producing anything else in the meantime.

These brakes are spec'd to my newage sti and are designed to work perfectly without upsetting the balance of the car.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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I run Ap 6 pots with standard rears not a problem the car certainly isn't an uncontrollable snake !!
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Old May 20, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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Most of the big brake 'boys' do actually research the brake balance side of things you know! They dont just make something and stick it out for sale.
So all your StopTech and AP and Alcon and more will not upset the brake bias of your car, they are designed that way.
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Old May 22, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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Pads for the AP 6 pots are available from around £70. AP4s even cheaper.

330x28 AP discs are £175 each iirc.

The Alcon setup does look smart.
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Old May 23, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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ive got the Alcon Prodrive 4 pots and they stop the car awesomely (MY93) so if the 6 pots are better then that is going to be one heck of a stopping machine. Look the business as well.

Be interested though to see if the 343mm will fit on 17" wheels though, as my 330mm discs and caliper fill 17"s nicely with a rizla paper gap between caliper and wheel
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Old May 26, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Still waiting for the new 6 pots.. hopefully will arrive next week...

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Old May 26, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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ive got the 4 pot version for my sti type r but with 343mm discs and they wont clear in 17s at all but the braking force is tremondios
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Old May 27, 2007 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DARKDESTROYER9
ive got the 4 pot version for my sti type r but with 343mm discs and they wont clear in 17s at all but the braking force is tremondios
Ive been assured 100% that the kit for my newage will fit with the 343mm dics with stock STI wheels.

If it doenst clear there will be hell to pay!!
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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Hey guys,

I gues ive been a little quiet recently due to losing a bit of heart with the car.
Basically you all know that i sold my Brembos that i refurbed 6 weeks ago.

Well whats happened since then?.... Not alot to be honest.

The car has sat at Mocom Racing since, Not even been washed!!!
I refurbed and sold my Brembos and ordered a set of 343mm fully floating Alcon monoblock 6 pots. Well after 2 attempts for Alcon to get it right im still waiting on now a 3rd set of brakes to be made.
First set were 4 pots, 2nd set were 370mm with the wrong PCD.. now the 3rd set ive been promised for the 19th of this month.

Im certainly not holding my breath put it that way.. but we shall see.

Ive managed to get another set of pads thrown in FOC (Mintex F2's) for my agrovation.

Watch this space....
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Hey guys,

I gues ive been a little quiet recently due to losing a bit of heart with the car.
Basically you all know that i sold my Brembos that i refurbed 6 weeks ago.

Well whats happened since then?.... Not alot to be honest.

The car has sat at Mocom Racing since, Not even been washed!!!
I refurbed and sold my Brembos and ordered a set of 343mm fully floating Alcon monoblock 6 pots. Well after 2 attempts for Alcon to get it right im still waiting on now a 3rd set of brakes to be made.
First set were 4 pots, 2nd set were 370mm with the wrong PCD.. now the 3rd set ive been promised for the 19th of this month.

Im certainly not holding my breath put it that way.. but we shall see.

Ive managed to get another set of pads thrown in FOC (Mintex F2's) for my agrovation.

Watch this space....
That SUCKS!!!
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Ive managed to get another set of pads thrown in FOC (Mintex F2's) for my aggravation.

Watch this space....

I would want more than that TBH. Maybe they should at least cover the cost of fitting for you. This kind of thing is sheer incompetence IMO and I would expect more from a company with a reputation that Alcon enjoy.

Hope it's sorted soon.
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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I hope so too.

I'll let you know what happens
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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Ears Motorsport received my 3rd set of Alcons today and dummy fitted them on a car in the workshop to be sure theyre 100% perfect for when i get them.

Basically they dont fit, they needed 2.9mm removed from the radial mount to bring the calipers closer to the hub and then they want me to run 7mm spacers in order make them fit.

Funking 7mm spacers!!!!
That would increase my front track by 14mm!! and then id have to do the reas so that the car was square.

Ive told them to poke the brakes and that i want my money back!! Its been 9 weeks now and after 3 sets of brakes which cost me £1800, im not prepared to settle for anything less.

Ive decided to ditch the 17s and get another set of 18s to run on track. This was not my original plan but it seems top be the way forward.

Looks like i'll have to settle for 356mm AP 6 pots. At least i know that when i order them they will be in stock and available for next day delivery!!

Im so funked off its untrue. Ive basically lost 2 months of insurance due to this too.

Alcon make the works brakes for the WRC impreza and supply McLaren F1...
How comes they cant sort out a w@nky funking road going impreza after 3 attempts!!!
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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JEEZ!!

that is a complete ***** up!

at least its finally sorted now tho!
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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I have a set of 356mm AP 6 pots on order for monday.

I'll junk the 17s and get a get another set of 18"s for track
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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Gutted for you. I would be well and truly pissed off with that situation. Perhaps a letter of discontent to Alcon is in order.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Ears Motorsport received my 3rd set of Alcons today and dummy fitted them on a car in the workshop to be sure theyre 100% perfect for when i get them.

Basically they dont fit, they needed 2.9mm removed from the radial mount to bring the calipers closer to the hub and then they want me to run 7mm spacers in order make them fit.

Funking 7mm spacers!!!!
That would increase my front track by 14mm!! and then id have to do the reas so that the car was square.

Ive told them to poke the brakes and that i want my money back!! Its been 9 weeks now and after 3 sets of brakes which cost me £1800, im not prepared to settle for anything less.

Ive decided to ditch the 17s and get another set of 18s to run on track. This was not my original plan but it seems top be the way forward.

Looks like i'll have to settle for 356mm AP 6 pots. At least i know that when i order them they will be in stock and available for next day delivery!!

Im so funked off its untrue. Ive basically lost 2 months of insurance due to this too.

Alcon make the works brakes for the WRC impreza and supply McLaren F1...
How comes they cant sort out a w@nky funking road going impreza after 3 attempts!!!
hi m8 sorry to hear that you have had a bad expereince but some of the trouble might have bad communication between ears motorsport and alcon themselves the problem is that 17 inch wheels will not clear the caliper i have since put on some 18" wheels to solve that problem with mine and im really pleased with them now please pm me b4 buying any ap calipers
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DARKDESTROYER9
hi m8 sorry to hear that you have had a bad expereince but some of the trouble might have bad communication between ears motorsport and alcon themselves the problem is that 17 inch wheels will not clear the caliper i have since put on some 18" wheels to solve that problem with mine and im really pleased with them now please pm me b4 buying any ap calipers
How comes all the EVO boys seem to run the 343mm kit on stock 17s with no problem???
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you have pm
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Cheers mate
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