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I got 4 new goodyear eagle f1 gsd3 fitted to my car two weeks ago and have been very impressed with the grip and the lack of road noise from them..Then after reading this thread i go out to my car to check them and guess what they were made in china with no f**king visible e mark at all..Does this mean that i have dangerous tyres on my car and should the supplier replace them for me...?? Any advice would be appreciated..

mgcvk

Yep thats right.

WayneG555

iTrader: (1)

Just quickly checked mine and they say Made in Thailand, does this mean there the bad ones? Where are the 'E' numbers marked?

Wayne

Marky9074

Just checked mine and it says 'Made in China', then near that is the E13 in a circle then a small gap and the long number...

Mark

Aztec Performance Ltd

iTrader: (234)

China ones should be okay. Just have a closer look for the short and long 'E' markings.

DAVE-W

Just had a chat with Goodyear technical department - very friendly chap and very helpful. Unsurprisingly, he is VERY aware of various threads across internet forums relating to this issue and was only too happy to help.

Basically, to reiterate what has been said before, tyres from the China and Germany plants, when marked with the E13 ****** (six digit) references are fine.

Had a good chat with him too about a new Eagle F1 Assymetric which is due out soon - supposed to be even better than the current F1 GS-D3.

Dave

Goodyear

Hello

This is James Bailey, Communications Manager for Goodyear Dunlop Group.

It appears that some dealers have been buying tyres from other markets that are not E marked.

It is a common problem in the tyre industry, not just with Goodyear.

In the case of non E marked tyres, drivers should report this to trading standards. These tyres are not being imported by Goodyear Dunlop Tyres UK or any of our sister companies in Europe.


Also, in some cases manufacturer's tyres may be E marked meaning they are legal and safe in Europe, but they may not be the 'optimum' tyre for our climate.


Whenever we (Goodyear Dunlop Tyres UK Limited) know of E marked tyres being imported that are not designed for northern european climates we are using trademark protection legislation to take the unofficial importers to court. (See below)

Our advice is to purchase from Goodyear Dunlop Approved dealers Goodyear-Find a Goodyear Dealer

PRESS RELEASE
Goodyear Dunlop success in protecting UK motorists with legal action against unapproved tyres


Goodyear Dunlop Tyres UK Limited has succeeded in the first phase of a campaign to protect UK customers from unknowingly buying tyres that were not designed for road conditions in this market. As a result of this campaign, one tyre dealer has had to send 600 Dunlop tyres for recycling, to prevent these tyres from being used on UK roads.

The Goodyear Dunlop campaign targets Asian and African manufactured tyres bearing the famous Dunlop and SP trademarks, but designed for their local markets, and not imported or recommended by the UK company.

The 600 Dunlop SP490 tyres had been imported by a tyre dealer for sale in the UK, despite not being on the approved list of Dunlop tyres designed for the UK market. In an out-of-court settlement, the dealer has agreed to send these tyres to an approved collection agency, at the dealer’s cost, to be recycled according to the guidelines set by the Responsible Recycling Scheme.

Paul Wilde, Director, Consumer Tyres, UK explained: “These tyres did not carry the standard Goodyear Dunlop UK warranties on quality and performance. Therefore we took this action to remove unapproved and trademark infringing tyres from the UK market and protect innocent UK motorists who trust our brands to perform to the highest level. The tyres we list for sale in the UK are designed to have the optimum safety levels, particularly in terms of reduced braking distances, wet weather performance and are engineered for the types of road surfaces, road conditions and climatic extremes that prevail in this market.’’

We began proceedings against this dealer to protect the UK motoring public and to protect our loyal dealers. We would not hesitate to take the same action against any other dealer selling similar tyres that we do not list for UK sale. If we cannot guarantee their suitability for the local market, it is vital we take steps to ensure that the Goodyear and Dunlop product on sale from reputable UK dealers is the correct tyre for the market. ” added Mr Wilde.

“As a result of this action, customers should be reassured that the majority of professional tyre dealers in the UK are fitting the correct Goodyear and Dunlop tyres for our road conditions”

ENDS

Editor’s Notes

Buyer’s advice:

As a guide, Goodyear Dunlop has recently identified examples of infringing Dunlop SP490, Dunlop SP7000 and Dunlop FM901 tyres on sale in the UK. The range of Dunlop tyres that that the company retails as suitable for the UK market is listed at:
Dunlop Tyres UK

If tyres are not purchased from Authorised Dunlop tyre fitters or distributors then you should make enquiries to ensure that they are authorised for sale in the UK

Recycling:

The 600 tyres are to be recycled in accordance with the Tyre Recovery Association’s guidelines. Our commitment to recycling and reuse of tyres means that the recycling is being handled by one of the first collectors and processors in the UK to claim that no tyres are disposed of as waste to landfill.

Tyre recycling includes a shredding process, giving the flexibility to dispose of tyres into a number of recycling and disposal outlets. All of these tyres will disposed of on a responsible basis into a variety of recycling and energy recovery routes such as granulation and for use as a cement kiln fuel.

ricardo

James, well done for coming on here and giving us the full story - it is refreshing to have someone representing a large company in our forum !

suffolkdar

Why all this concern reguarding over priced rubbish? Just buy a decent tyre at a decent price!

Granby

iTrader: (5)

Seems your on your own regarding these tyres, maybe you had a set from Thailand

AudiLover

who put a bee in your bonnet?

F1 CJE UK

iTrader: (8)

Thanks james and BOB, 5 for the info good to see that scoobynet is still being used for info and advice not the standard BS

THANKS

(E mark and made in Germany )

Any more info on the new F1 replacement as I am not far off needing new rubber and my Goodyear’s have been brilliant

Sosbanite

James, many thanks for taking the time to come on here and respond - much appreciated

Another vote for Goodyear here, both on the scoob and my Peug

KTM3

I only used F1's on my previous scoob and as soon as new one needs a new set I will use them again. As said above good grip, minimal noise and NOT the most expensive on the market. Only down side, I found due to the tread pattern, stones off my drive were constantly getting caught in them click-click-click

Anyone in North London area I would recomend Wembly Tyres, all E marked.

WayneG555

iTrader: (1)

Still a little confused mine say 'Made in Thailand' and have E13 in a circle?

Wayne

ricardo

Is there a longer number immediately after the circled E13 ?
If so then it has the proper markings.

If not then it looks like you've got ones that have an E-mark but are probably intended for another market, so may be less suitable for the UK. I should contact the supplier first to see what they say, and involve Trading Standards if you don't get anywhere.

abc

James,

Thank you for coming on here and explaining the situation. I've just bought my second set of F1 GSD3s.

I'm a bit confused by your post: if one's tyres are E marked and have a six digit number following the E mark, how is it possible to tell whether they are also optimal for our climate? I've tried using the url you posted but the search dealer network link is dead. Also, if one buys from outside the approved dealers network, is there any way of knowing that one has got optimal tyres? Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Andrew

Abdabz

James

speedking

Will it make any difference using three "Made in Germany" tyres with one "Made in China" tyre, all properly E-marked? slightly as to any difference.

WayneG555

iTrader: (1)

Well I've got some pictures of the tyres so if anyone can tell me what they are then thanks!!!!







Thanks
Wayne

Aztec Performance Ltd

iTrader: (234)

If that's the only 'E' marking on there they could well be duff ones.

Check the inside sidewall.

Bob

WayneG555

iTrader: (1)

To save getting under the car the other side's tyres will be the other way round wont they (being rotational)?

Wayne

Aztec Performance Ltd

iTrader: (234)

tyres can be put on either way and still be rotational

WayneG555

iTrader: (1)

sorry meant directional!!

ZEN Performance

the outside tyre wall on the drivers side, will be the inside tyre wall on the pass side and vice versa.

WayneG555

iTrader: (1)

that's what i meant just couldn't explain it!!!! Well from looking at them there's no E mark on the inside tyre wall. The only other numbers are the same as the middle pic just minus the E13 and the date stamp!! There from a very reputable tyre dealer as well that all the guys with performance cars use round here. Will have to post this on my local club site!!

Wayne

Goodyear

That is a more difficult one to define than E mark or no E mark. It is an issue common to all tyre manufacturers, not just Goodyear, as well.

If the tyre is sourced from a mainstream dealer such as Hi-Q, Kwik Fit or a Goodyear Approved dealer you will have the right product.

If you buy tyres outside of this network, for any mainstream brand of tyre, not just Goodyear, you should ask the dealer if they are souced from the European sales company of the tyre dealer.

The tyre supply chain is complex. Most dealers buy from the UK tyre company. Some import 'grey' market tyres from wholesalers who buy from other European countries. This is legally OK but means we cannot trace the origin of the tyre very easily.

Then some dealers do buy inappropriate tyres, (sometimes not E marked), from dealers in the Far East, USA or wherever exchange rates steer them. That is when we will take legal action under trademark legislation if they are E marked, or where buyers should report the dealer to trading standards if not E marked.

A long answer, but I hope you can see it is not a simple issue.

If anyone wishes to let us know the names of dealers that have supplied non E marked tyres we will pass the details to our lawyers as well as recommending that you contact trading standards.

The Goodyear Eagle F1 has won more independent UK tyre tests (Autocar, Auto Express, Evo, Max Power) than any other tyre. We are very protective of its reputation and want to ensure customers get the right tyre.

However, to get this in proportion, we do believe that the vast majority of tyres in the UK are correctly suited to this market.

speedking

@Goodyear, can you answer post #49? Are Germany / China tyres exactly the same compound?

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

i got my goodyear tyres from kwik fit so i think im safe

abc

James,

Thanks very much for your helpful reply. I can see that the situation is complex and not without awkward legal ramifications all round. You are entirely right to do all you can to uphold the F1's reputation -- they're great tyres -- and I'll try to do my bit towards that cause by asking some questions of my tyre dealer.

Cheers,

Andrew