RS6 in a nasty way
01 March 2007, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
Complete opposite mate. Im pleased that audi build quality and safety has once again shone through and saved this guys life. All he got was scratches. Sensational machine
Complete opposite mate. Im pleased that audi build quality and safety has once again shone through and saved this guys life. All he got was scratches. Sensational machine
02 March 2007, 01:08 AM
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Not one occupant survived out of 2, and the car broke in half, but not as badly (at first glance) as this RS6.
As far as Luxembourg goes, it's national flag is not Portuguese.....yet!
02 March 2007, 01:17 AM
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@ Janspeed : and it will never be 
The fact that this guy survived was just out of pure luck and has nothing to do with the "superb" quality of Audi. If he had hit the tree some inches later or sooner he would be dead. And luckiest thing on this accident is, that he had no passenger!
Sensational machine??? Well haven't seen much cars destroyed like this one
Have been on accidents, where the car was not half as damaged as this one and all passengers died.
Lucky guy. Point.
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The fact that this guy survived was just out of pure luck and has nothing to do with the "superb" quality of Audi. If he had hit the tree some inches later or sooner he would be dead. And luckiest thing on this accident is, that he had no passenger!
Sensational machine??? Well haven't seen much cars destroyed like this one
Have been on accidents, where the car was not half as damaged as this one and all passengers died.
Lucky guy. Point.
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02 March 2007, 01:25 AM
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How many wires under that RS6 passenger seat?? 
The driver was one luck, lucky man that day!!!!
Trees 1 : Audi 0 not even a big tree is it??
The A3 accident.............SH*T!!!!! Thing is....the road looks reasonably straight from what you can see. Must have been going some to do that. *Notices speedo stuck at about 90 (KPH though??)*
Trees 2 : Audis 0
The driver was one luck, lucky man that day!!!!
Trees 1 : Audi 0 not even a big tree is it??
The A3 accident.............SH*T!!!!! Thing is....the road looks reasonably straight from what you can see. Must have been going some to do that. *Notices speedo stuck at about 90 (KPH though??)*
Trees 2 : Audis 0
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02 March 2007, 01:34 AM
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2 - nil 
Damn must have been going for it! Even though the speed-o is "crashed" at + or - 100 km/h they must have been goin faster.
Looks like it is dawn, so they must have been coming back from a heavy night out, which is not uncommon.
Nowadays the cops have turned the heat up and typically there are around 30-40 ppl arrested per night on the weekend in Lisbon alone for drink-driving. It is the only way..........
Damn must have been going for it! Even though the speed-o is "crashed" at + or - 100 km/h they must have been goin faster.
Looks like it is dawn, so they must have been coming back from a heavy night out, which is not uncommon.
Nowadays the cops have turned the heat up and typically there are around 30-40 ppl arrested per night on the weekend in Lisbon alone for drink-driving. It is the only way..........
02 March 2007, 01:40 AM
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@ Janspeed : 
Side-impact is the most dangerous thing. Even at low speeds it can break your neck.
The A3 accident is really horrible, but I think 100km/h isn't enough.
Some people have luck, others don't. That's life. And everybody makes mistakes or stupid things sometimes.
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Side-impact is the most dangerous thing. Even at low speeds it can break your neck.
The A3 accident is really horrible, but I think 100km/h isn't enough.
Some people have luck, others don't. That's life. And everybody makes mistakes or stupid things sometimes.
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02 March 2007, 01:45 AM
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This particular accident is quite notorious, even abroad on some forums.
Shame that it has to be something this bad to get "known".
They must have been doing more than 150 Km/h easy!
Shame that it has to be something this bad to get "known".
They must have been doing more than 150 Km/h easy!
02 March 2007, 03:26 AM
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Audi build quality and safety, don't make me laugh
If you study the photographs properly, and those of the A3, you'll notice that both cars have literally come apart at the seams
All the air bags in the world ain't going to save you if the structure they are attached to can't stay in one pieceIf that's Audi build quality in action, I'll have an Alfa GTA, thanks
At least the Italians know how to weld a car together properly
02 March 2007, 10:13 AM
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Janspeed, I've been in Lisbon for the last 6 years, I hadn't seen that A3 pic. But with the state of the drivers on the roads, I can well believe it
02 March 2007, 10:25 AM
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BTW, given the increased environmental awareness among car manufacturers, does anyone else think that Audi are taking this new "tree-hugging" approach a bit too far?
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02 March 2007, 11:16 AM
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Audi build quality and safety, don't make me laugh
If you study the photographs properly, and those of the A3, you'll notice that both cars have literally come apart at the seams
All the air bags in the world ain't going to save you if the structure they are attached to can't stay in one pieceIf that's Audi build quality in action, I'll have an Alfa GTA, thanks
At least the Italians know how to weld a car together properly
02 March 2007, 12:19 PM
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Oh FFS, just because you bite at some wind-up merchant does not mean that you can redress the balance by spouting delusional tripe about how you think your car would fare better in such an accident. It's quite obvious to even a casual bystander that these accidents happened at VERY high speeds and the forces involved were immense.
They may or may not be better built than an Audi I don't know, but as electrically they'll always be Italian, I'll never own one long enough to find out
Besides I do have some experience of how cars behave when you crash test them
I managed to wrap the side of my first Mk2 Golf GTi round a steel reinforced concrete pillar at a speed more than slightly above what is legally permitted in the UK.
The passenger door, the rear quarter, the roof and the floor were trashed, to the extent that the passenger seat ended up practically under mine
Yet despite all the crumpled and stretched metal, not one single spot welded joint had failed, let alone ripped apart to the extent that those two cars have
02 March 2007, 03:21 PM
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Oh FFS, just because you bite at some wind-up merchant does not mean that you can redress the balance by spouting delusional tripe about how you think your car would fare better in such an accident. It's quite obvious to even a casual bystander that these accidents happened at VERY high speeds and the forces involved were immense.
Not that "immense", in the RS6 case - otherwise the wreckage would have been spread much further from the point of impact.
Likewise the lack of injury to the driver. "Immense" impacts generally cause significant internal injury due to the decellerative forces involved.
Emailed a link to this thread to my mate who does road crash investigation and is a retained fireman. So he's had plenty of experience with serious RTA's and many fatalities.
A) He's dubious about the claim that there was no cutting involved
b) If there was, and that was impact damage only, he is astounded at how that Audi's shell has simply fallen apart at the seams. He's not at all impressed with structural integrity.
c) Further astounded that an impact of that apparent severity resulted in zero injury and is of the opinion that the impact hard enough to rip a car in two should have caused more than a scratch.
His conclusion?
Either the car was cut open by the fire brigade, or Audi shell integrity is extremely poor in side impacts and literally fell apart at the seams.
02 March 2007, 03:57 PM
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The Fire Brigade wouldn't slice a car open like that anyway, they would use the hydraulic shears on the screen pillars and take the whole roof off because it's easier and quicker.
02 March 2007, 04:39 PM
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02 March 2007, 05:53 PM
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02 March 2007, 06:28 PM
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I know from a good source that the car had not been cut by any fireman. The driver himself called the police. All damage was done by the tree and the driver
@AudiLover: Audi's are good cars, no problem with that. But I don't understand your point in showing images of wrecked BMW's
Every accident is different, and like I said, a slightly different impact-angle and the driver of this RS6 would be dead. Come on, the car looks like hit by an anti-tank-mine
The fact that the driver survived this accident has nothing to do with the quality of Audi!!! And I like Audi's, but you are not realistic!!!
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@AudiLover: Audi's are good cars, no problem with that. But I don't understand your point in showing images of wrecked BMW's
Every accident is different, and like I said, a slightly different impact-angle and the driver of this RS6 would be dead. Come on, the car looks like hit by an anti-tank-mine
The fact that the driver survived this accident has nothing to do with the quality of Audi!!! And I like Audi's, but you are not realistic!!!
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02 March 2007, 06:42 PM
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02 March 2007, 10:08 PM
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Do you really think, at those speeds, hitting a tree that the badge on the car makes much difference.
Euro Ncap, perceived safety and actual safety go out of the window when you hit a tree at a ton, no car comes out best even against a small tree.
Euro Ncap, perceived safety and actual safety go out of the window when you hit a tree at a ton, no car comes out best even against a small tree.
02 March 2007, 10:38 PM
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It's a wind up, I can't believe people even bother responding, unless you really enjoy arguing a pointless argument that's purely intentional from the third-party?
