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Old 09 February 2007, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by J_sca001
It certainly is.

Had mine replaced in my classic and it's either engine out or gearbox out, both take a long time to do.
Well they obviously need to take one of those out, since the clutch sits between them!
Apparently Roger Clark Motorsport can do a clutch change (gearbox off) in 3 hours?
Old 09 February 2007, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by J_sca001
It certainly is.

Had mine replaced in my classic and it's either engine out or gearbox out, both take a long time to do.
It is NOT Engine out ....

It IS Gearbox out ....

Or, could it be easier to lift the Engine out to get to the clutch???????? That would leave all the Driveshafts and Prop in situ ....
Old 09 February 2007, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Well they obviously need to take one of those out, since the clutch sits between them!
Apparently Roger Clark Motorsport can do a clutch change (gearbox off) in 3 hours?
On my Calibra it was a 30minute job ...... a hatch plate came off and the clutch could be replaced - excellent design
Old 09 February 2007, 09:44 AM
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Any car which was designed to get at the clutch that easily has to indicate they expected to be changing it on a regular basis !
Old 09 February 2007, 09:56 AM
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I bought a new clutch and a lightened fly wheel (both sourced from ebay, bought from companys not individuals) and got my local garage to fit it. Total came to £460.
Old 09 February 2007, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by funkyspider
Any car which was designed to get at the clutch that easily has to indicate they expected to be changing it on a regular basis !
Thats a strange deduction to make??

Following that weird line of thought, Subaru will make the Spark Plugs simple to get at as they have to be changed every 2 years ....... yeah, thats happened
Old 09 February 2007, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Look ............ I have NO IDEA WHATSOEVER what an Organic Clutch is - so, I asked !!!

So SHUT IT!!

And you do not spell ANNOY as ANYONE .... halfwit Irish ****
Sorry i spelt the word wrong sorry, but everyone knows you are the **** mate, and as for halfwit Irish ****, get yours facts right i am British and live in Northern Ireland. Im sure you will upset quite a few people on here with that comment especially the Irish.

You post a lot of crap contradicting people on what they say, so assumed you were taking the pissylewis.
Old 09 February 2007, 01:56 PM
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Subaru clutch change is VERY easy. (compared to say, a Mondeo).

THE ENGINE IS NOT REMOVED (if it is, you'll pay twice the labour for doing so)

You spend more time removing and refitting the down pipe and intercooler than doing the actual clutch. 3 hours is about right, so don't let yourself get ripped off beacuse your car is alledgedly "special".
Old 09 February 2007, 03:48 PM
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The car was gone for 4 hrs total and cost me £365 all in. Got told that the old clutch was a recon unit. Bleeding bodgers

Andy.
Old 09 February 2007, 04:03 PM
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£365, thats more like it

Certainly shows up the ones charging £600 odd.
Old 09 February 2007, 05:27 PM
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Christopher Neil in Northwich wanted £675 + VAT (£793.15). I know they deal in lotus and noble aswell as subaru but thats just crazy. No wonder the bird behind the desk had a big grin on her face she must be the highest paid receptionist in the world.
Old 09 February 2007, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by andy_s37
Christopher Neil in Northwich wanted £675 + VAT (£793.15).
Like our lady on reception do we Sir?

Like our polished floor Sir?

Would Sir care to drop his troooosers and bend over the workbench while me and the boyz give you a good seeing to

Anyone who pays these prices need their bumps felt ......
Old 09 February 2007, 06:39 PM
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I thought my clutch was slipping, it felt like it as the car was coming onto full boost, then i found out it was a small blow in my up pipe!
Old 09 February 2007, 07:03 PM
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We can do the Exedy sports clutch, fitted, including vat for £550. Make sure you check the VAT when comparing prices. We also stock a range of lightweight billet flywheels in 2 weight ranges for very competitive prices.

We occasionally remove the engine when doing a clutch change, as we will sometimes be doing other work that means extra time removing the engine compared to the box is more than made up.

Paul
Old 09 February 2007, 07:08 PM
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Would you say it's easier to take Engine out or Gearbox out if you were ONLY doing the Clutch?

Also, I have never, ever needed to do anything to flywheels when I have replaced clutches ............ I cannot think why you would want to replace an undamaged flywheel?
Old 09 February 2007, 07:14 PM
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OK, so what is an organic clutch

Clearly its not one that is free of pesticides, and fed on only home grown tomatoes
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i have heard flywheels are prone to fracturing in later life
Old 09 February 2007, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Luminous
OK, so what is an organic clutch
Thats the answer I am waiting for ........... does anyone actually know or is it one of those 'Follow-The-Sheep' ScoobyNet things???

Like Fractured Flywheels

Most of these things are designed to extract extra money out of the stupid.
Old 09 February 2007, 07:37 PM
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true pslewis, has anyone physically had a flywheel fracture on them? interested to know this, zen must have had experience?
Old 09 February 2007, 07:45 PM
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Kevlar Clutches actually seem the best for Performance Cars ....

So, I am surprised that 'Organic' Clutches have gained favour with ScoobyNet members?

If a Flywheel is damaged then yes, replace ..................... but I cannot remember the last time I saw a damaged Flywheel ... of course, replacing a Flywheel delivers extra profits.
Old 09 February 2007, 09:01 PM
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Pete,

I have never seen a flywheel fracture. However, what we see plenty of is cracking on the surface that runs very deep. Sometime they are okay, but sometimes they have a very uneven surface and need to be skimmed to prevent the clutch being either very juddery or having a foreshortened lifespan. The option of skimming is okay but I wouldn't ever do it without balancing afterwards, and with skimming and balancing you can be looking at the over £100+vat. A new OE flywheel is around £215+vat, but we offer a billet flywheel for just £225. Given the relatively small increase in price, many of our customers opt to go for the billet item, which includes dowels and a new spigot bearing. I would say that 50% of people opt for the new flywheel simply due to the lightweight nature. I have also removed skimmed OE flywheels that have surface cracks and raised portions after 10000 miles, the billet items are more robust in comparison, it might be the non cast material, but perhaps it's because they're thinner and have a more even heat distribution.

Also with noting that some uprated friction materials, in paticular cerametalic paddle clutches can really eat into flywheels, but that's not an issue for most people.

We would always remove the gearbox to do a clutch unless absolutely necessary.

Paul

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