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Old 03 February 2007, 12:05 AM
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There is nothing to repair. The world is fine - any change is cause nature wants to change. Anyone that believes different is brainwashing or has been brainwashed to pay extra taxes. P.S. I'm a planner, sustainability is integral to my job and its all BS IMHO.
Old 03 February 2007, 12:11 AM
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Is it not a change for the better though, whatever label you slap on it to kick start it... Living alongside nature sounds a lot more appealing that raping it until there is nothing left to steal...


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Old 03 February 2007, 01:56 AM
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Saving what? The planet from us? A big boulder from outer space will do the job!

Did so a few times, will do so again. We wont feel a thing!
Old 03 February 2007, 12:12 PM
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If you ask me the planet/nature is just keeping us on our toes. Nothing in nature is a sure bet and to survive you have to adapt. If the planet gets hotter and the sea rises then we must adapt - if we don't or can't we perish. Thats just the way of things
Old 03 February 2007, 12:51 PM
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There will be huge commercial opportunities in all this.

Power generation will get the focus like never before, and sometime in the next few decades there will be more breakthroughs that keep us on the path away from fossil fuels. Whoever cracks the 'Mr. Fusion' thing first will make Bill Gates look like a pauper. Other technologies will come on a long way too - imagine huge rafts of devices at sea that use sunlight to lock carbon into a form that just drops to the bottom. Or maybe fusion power to do it faster. Maybe self-reproducing nano devices that float and lock carbon, making more of themselves along the way With an off switch hopefully...
Old 03 February 2007, 01:32 PM
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Whatever anyone says about the climate change, there will certainly be a natural element but Man has also contributed as well. I feel very badly disposed to the attitude of the major polluters especially the USA which still refuses to aknowledge the Kyotu Agreement as well as the others such as China and eventually India who are also major polluters. It is no excuse now to say that all the others made money out of fossil fuels since Global Warming was not known about then and it is now!

Above all we owe a debt to our descendants and I feel a sense of shame about the sort of world they will inherit from us. My conscience is slightly eased in that I now have a car which although it is still fun to drive, has low emissions. Luckily Mrs Leslie and I don't need a large car anyway. Not very much in the great scheme of things, but it all adds up!

Maybe future scientific discoveries may do a lot to ease the future problems, but the question is, will it all be in time before it is irreversible? Whatever, we simply cannot ignore what we are being told.

Large taxes imposed on us using this as an excuse would be morally wrong IMO.

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Old 03 February 2007, 09:16 PM
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The technology is out there.. the world needs a kick up the ***..

PistolWimp - Power From Ordinary Water

Thinking back at what Faraday was working on when he was alive, I believe he developed this technology back in 1850 but he took it to his grave.

Perhaps now is the time for this sort of stuff to come to the surface again....


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Old 03 February 2007, 09:28 PM
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What will it take to "fix" the Planet??
Pay more tax. Stop moaning. Trust New Labour to 'fix' everything.
Old 03 February 2007, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy
There is nothing to repair. The world is fine - any change is cause nature wants to change. Anyone that believes different is brainwashing or has been brainwashed to pay extra taxes. P.S. I'm a planner, sustainability is integral to my job and its all BS IMHO.
A Planner isn't a job. Not a real one anyway.

I plan to get some food later. That's not a job either.
Old 03 February 2007, 09:52 PM
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^^^ Oh I agree - this is why I want to play internet poker professionally for a living. I'd actually have a degree of pride telling people I meet that I play cards for a living!!
Old 03 February 2007, 10:03 PM
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Nuclear fusion technology is well under way with a new large scale research fusion reactor being built in France and funded by several European counties including ours. Search for "JET" on google and you'll find the most up to date fusion reactor around. Some of the power used in that thing is amazing.

Great thing about nuclear fusion is that only the reactor itself becomes radioactive so no harmful waste to get rid off.

Also i think the fuel cell will become the power for tomorrows cars. Been used on submarines for years.

Both of those should reduce carbon emmisions quite a bit.
Old 04 February 2007, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Sorry.

As a serious point, all this crap about "saving the planet" is a complete obfuscation of the real issue, which is saving the human species. As a student of Geology and Palaeontology I can tell you that the "Planet" has recovered from episodes of up to 96% species extinction many times over the last 600 million years. Humanity won't recover from any degree of species extinction.
You are, of course, right, I was answering in the context of the OP.
Me, I realise that the planet we call Earth will keep on turning until ? finishes it.
Dominant species come and go.
That the current, well debateable that, dominant one has an awareness of it's existence is neither here nor there in truth.
That species can't really face the fact of it's inevitable demise.




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