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Old 11 February 2007, 09:53 AM
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An article I DID find fascinating was the Bristol/Spyker article- Amazing looking cars with almost jewel like interiors and massive performance and unlikely to appear in any other mag.

Super6 - Got 232lbs/ft and it's fine with a half decent chassis. Can't deny that there's a bit of torque steer though but I've learned to counteract it almost subconciously now. 300 could be interesting...
Blue - I had always thought the Civic CDTi was pokier than my unit - What are the figures? I thought it was 160ish bhp and not far off 300lbs/ft - Sounds like I might be wrong?

FIL is about to chip his X5 - 435lbs/ft should be good fun!
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Originally Posted by Blueblaster
Ok, smarty pants. You implied he shouldn't comment on cars because he drives an Astra diesel. As I said before, his last car was an R32. Was he more or less qualified to comment when he drove the Golf than the Astra? Please explain why. No need for clever comments. Just answer the question, please.
Probably less qualified, TBH.

Mark 4 golfs don't handle at all well. In fact, they are terrible.

And he though the mk3 was great -

But I digress , sorry
Old 12 February 2007, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Being called a Turd, Tool and Weirdo in one thread.....
You've had worse
Old 12 February 2007, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
Blueblaster, in the first instance I didn't say that disappointment with Evo's content is down to class/income envy. I pointed that accusation at Dreamweaver which I think is accurate given his continual referencing to people down south/toffs/city types etc, highlighted when he picked on Catchpole as a journalist - probably the only posh one on the whole magazine. If people have a particle problem with certain issues, then in my experience they take every opportunity to put them down and deride them with snide comments - it is particularly true of the British and one of the few things I dislike about this country apart from the weather. They also have a hard time admitting it, again borne out by experience.

There are plenty of cars featured in Evo that I have no desire to own but its still interesting to read about them and there are plenty of cars in there that I may want to buy in the future. There are also plenty of cars in the magazine that I cannot afford - I don't have an issue with that so I'm puzzled why others have problems with cars they can't afford

Taking the article in isolation, if you've read it then they explained how the cars performed on the B660 which I'd suggest is real world driving in a real world car.
Flatcap, I never mentioned people from down South being the toffs and city boys, they are all over the UK and if you don't agree that there are lots of blokes with expensive suits and silly hairdo's that buy cars purely for brand, or "how expensive" they are then you must be blind.

I live 30 minutes from Manchester in a nice little village so we have lots of commuters living round here - they are the city types I refer to, nothing to do with the South or London though they will be there also.

Blueblaster - "wallet-friendly Lancashire"? I wish
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Originally Posted by ///\oo/\\\
Probably less qualified, TBH.

Mark 4 golfs don't handle at all well. In fact, they are terrible.

And he though the mk3 was great -

But I digress , sorry
Well I DID think you were okay but now I think you're a ****.
The R32 was totally different to the rest of the mk4s (which handled very badly) so presume you've never driven one Mr Mag regurgitator?
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Well I DID think you were okay but now I think you're a ****.
The R32 was totally different to the rest of the mk4s (which handled very badly) so presume you've never driven one Mr Mag regurgitator?
We've been here before - I don't regurgitate mag articles without qualifying my post to that degree.

For God's sake Matt, get a sense of humour

Did you, or did you not sing the praises of the Mk3 Golf?
Old 13 February 2007, 09:23 AM
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I had one for three years - While I considered suspension mods the whole time I had it, the build quality, excellent engine, low running costs and comfort as well as decent performance of the MARK 3 16V GTI (NOT ANY OF THE OTHER MODELS) made it a pleasure to own.

So listen to me this time - I like the MARK 4 R32 and the MARK 3 GOLF GTI 16V NOT, I REPEAT NOT any of the other models in the mk3/mk4 range just like I like the AUDI RS4 but NOT ANY OF THE OTHER A4s IN THE AUDI RANGE.

CLEAR ENOUGH or do I need to repeat myself again. AND AGAIN?

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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
I had one for three years - While I considered suspension mods the whole time I had it, the build quality, excellent engine, low running costs and comfort as well as decent performance of the MARK 3 16V GTI (NOT ANY OF THE OTHER MODELS) made it a pleasure to own.

So listen to me this time - I like the MARK 4 R32 and the MARK 3 GOLF GTI 16V NOT, I REPEAT NOT any of the other models in the mk3/mk4 range just like I like the AUDI RS4 but NOT ANY OF THE OTHER A4s IN THE AUDI RANGE.

CLEAR ENOUGH or do I need to repeat myself again. AND AGAIN?

Thicko.


Simon, is that you

If ts not then calm down Matt........you are making yourself look a bit, well, silly
Old 13 February 2007, 09:45 AM
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Maybe in your opinion but you continually show us how you DON'T READ POSTS properly so I thought I'd help you out with capitals.

Or maybe you need glasses?
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Blue - I had always thought the Civic CDTi was pokier than my unit - What are the figures? I thought it was 160ish bhp and not far off 300lbs/ft - Sounds like I might be wrong?
138bhp, 135g/km. What you get is a very smooth engine with low emissions. Other manufacturers have chased higher power outputs at the expense of everything else. However, this looks like it might be changing as the latest crop of BMW diesels have phenominal statistics. Looks like they have had a real breakthough. If the 1-series had a usable boot and half decent rear leg room I would have to concede it is a better car than my Civic. However, it doesn't, so it in't
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Maybe in your opinion but you continually show us how you DON'T READ POSTS properly so I thought I'd help you out with capitals.

Or maybe you need glasses?
Ok, you win

I give up - this is sooo funny
Old 13 February 2007, 10:15 AM
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That's pretty good - I'm 140(ish) g/km and Euro4 compliant (had to pay extra for that on the Focus TDCI!!) - Quite a nice suprise when I had to tax the car - Very cheap!
The VW 150PD engine was a good case of power before refinement - Very agricultural and with the tiniest power band ever.

Keep being tempted to get something petrol powered again but I just know the sacrifices needed would be hard to justify.
Old 13 February 2007, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ///\oo/\\\
Ok, you win

I give up - this is sooo funny



That's a first I reckon!!
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Originally Posted by Blueblaster
138bhp, 135g/km. What you get is a very smooth engine with low emissions. Other manufacturers have chased higher power outputs at the expense of everything else. However, this looks like it might be changing as the latest crop of BMW diesels have phenominal statistics. Looks like they have had a real breakthough. If the 1-series had a usable boot and half decent rear leg room I would have to concede it is a better car than my Civic. However, it doesn't, so it in't


2007 BMW 2.0L td

175 bhp
258 lb/ft

129 g/km CO2

Impressive stuff
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I had to give up

How can you argue against someone like this

Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Resorting to abuse and patronisation = Argument lost, credibility blown.

Oops.
Originally Posted by Matteeboy
What a turd you are.
Originally Posted by Matteeboy
CLEAR ENOUGH or do I need to repeat myself again. AND AGAIN?

Thicko.
Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Well I DID think you were okay but now I think you're a ****.
Originally Posted by Matteeboy
you complete TOOL.

And thats just from one thread
Old 13 February 2007, 10:41 AM
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You'd think that with all the time taken to cut and paste, you'd actually digest the information given.

Does anyone that likes a Clio 182 Trophy must also love the standard 1.2 as well?
Does anyone that likes an S3 must love a 1.6 A3 on tiny steel wheels?

I'm sure you'll have some attempt at a smartar5e answer Mr Last Word.
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
You'd think that with all the time taken to cut and paste, you'd actually digest the information given.

Does anyone that likes a Clio 182 Trophy must also love the standard 1.2 as well?
Does anyone that likes an S3 must love a 1.6 A3 on tiny steel wheels?

I'm sure you'll have some attempt at a smartar5e answer Mr Last Word.
Matt,

No smart **** answer

Ok, so you like the mk3 Golf 16v gti and the RS4 Audi. Good for you. Why are you so defensive of the point?

Just because I chose not to agree with or comment on a point made in a post doesn't mean I haven't read it and digested it. I may choose to dismiss it for personal reasons (as might we all) if, having digested it, it is of little value to the point in question.

In any event, your point is wierd, if not flawed.

Often, upping the power and spring rates and slapping on wider wheels and tyres serves merely to highlight the deficiencies of a given car. Base Golfs and A3s are great cars. Because they do everything expected of them very well. Mk3Gtis and (previous gen) S3s are not "great" cars because they don't.

A more extreme example may be that Boxsters and Caymans are great cars because they do everything expected of them very well indeed. The fact they are not 997s is irrelevant to all but those more obsessed with money and image that with what the car delivers.

Its pathetic that some dismiss them as a "poor man's porsche"

Just as its equally pathetic, for example, that some dismiss the likes of the 1 series BMW as a "car for someone who just must have the badge"

To do so is to dismiss the product for what it is.

Quite what relevance the point you are trying to make about what you like and don't like, as a response to by a tongue in cheek comment by me that as you have praised the qualities of two cars with pretty basic dynamics you may not be qualified to comment, remains unclear.

Despite my reading your posts through a further time.
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Well after having my civic cdti off the road for nearly 2 months with an undiagnosed fault I’m not convinced about the reliability of Honda's anymore. Also had the worst customer service experience you can imagine. Honda still have not picked up the bill for the hire car even though the car was under a year old and covered by a full warranty.
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The standard mk3 and mk4 handled badly.
The mk3 I had still wasn't the best but it was a lot better (the VR6 was way too nose heavy).
The mk4 was even worse, yet the R32 managed to solve that - I was expecting to get an Impreza or S3 and almost bought one but tried the R32 "just in case" and it blew me away - Read any review and they'll agree hence it winning many group tests.
Of course the R32 wasn't the best ever handler but it was pretty good and made up for any problems in other areas yet I've driven cars that can be placed more accurately on the road, give more feedback and can be driven to and beyond the limits (usually much slower cars) without fear of a major crash.
So saying I like mk3s and mk4s is actually wrong.

Not sure the relevance of the Cayman/Boxster or of your 1 series - Don't like the look of the 1 series but I'd have a 130i like a shot if I could handle the lack of space.
I like the cheaper Porkers very much and believe that with proper mid engined layouts, they are actually fundamentally better cars than the 911 albeit with less power and "status"

So while you find me going off topic, you go and do exactly the same yourself.

We clearly both like cars, both know a bit about them and both have different opinions. Shall we leave it at that?

Regarding the new CTR, it seems opinions differ massively. I did a long term test on the old one and although some aspects appealed (the engine at over 6k rpm, the brakes, the wonderful gearbox) others left me unimpressed (over light artificial steering, skittery back end, a mates flaky interior).

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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
So saying I like mk3s and mk4s is actually wrong.
Could you not just have said that earlier?
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Blueblaster - Well said (from a person with a sensible car and some savings in the bank!)!

I've done the expensive new car thing (well relatively so if £24k is considered expensive) and although it was great having a semi flashy car that went well, it cost me about twice (if not more) the amount that my "not much slower and more reliable" Astra does.
Now I could go out and double that costs again quite easily (and take a chunk out of the savings) for a very small gain in performance, but I don't want to.
I'd rather gain 5% from it sitting in the bank.
astra and reliable

And 5% of say 10k you saved in the bank aint ****. If you want your money to work for you, you will first have to do the working for it.

lol 5% of 10 grand instead of having a good car

superlooser
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
astra and reliable

And 5% of say 10k you saved in the bank aint ****. If you want your money to work for you, you will first have to do the working for it.

lol 5% of 10 grand instead of having a good car

superlooser
That'll be 5% of 10 grand plus cheaper road tax, insurance, petrol, servicing, parts and less depreciation. From what I understand his car has been 100% reliable. Please explain to me why he should not describe his car as reliable when quite clearly it has been?
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So where does that £10k come from then AL?
Plucked from the air?

Because it's very wrong you total gimp.
And working for money - You'd weep if you knew how easy it is to make very good money yet be flexible AND not have to stick my head down a bog/drain. Trouble is, you need a brain to do it.


The Golf went in four times in a year for various problems.

The Astra hasn't had a single problem in 18 months.
Of course, I could have spent a couple of quid on an old S40 instead and saved money.

And I'd still be able to spell LOSER too.

Now please write something else to keep us all entertained.
I've even put the kettle on.

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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
So where does that £10k come from then AL?
Plucked from the air?

Because it's very wrong you total gimp.
And working for money - You'd weep if you knew how easy it is to make very good money yet be flexible AND not have to stick my head down a bog/drain. Trouble is, you need a brain to do it.


The Golf went in four times in a year for various problems.

The Astra hasn't had a single problem in 18 months.
Of course, I could have spent a couple of quid on an old S40 instead and saved money.

And I'd still be able to spell LOSER too.

Now please write something else to keep us all entertained.
I've even put the kettle on.


You live in the south were you earn less money than the average londoner, and you have much much cheaper housing, yet you drive a astra. Somehow I dont think your making anywhere near as much as a london plumber does

Drove up to nottingham the other day and saw 3 broken down vauxhalls on the day. Vauxhalls are reliable? Yeah right

And the spelling was intentional you ****. I wrote it the way i did to accentuate just how much of a 9 stone "hulk like" moron you are

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You earn less in the South than in London?!!

TOOL!

You saw three broken down Vauxhalls so they must be unreliable?

TOOL!

You think a plumber earns more than me and you don't even know what I do?

TOOL!

You think anyone with cash rushes out and buys a flash car?

TOOL!

You think anyone that can buy a new high spec car outright has no money?

TOOL!

Still going on about the 9 stone thing (for anyone else, I weigh 12 stone)?

TOOL!

BTW - My mates Dad, a director for a major haulage firm has just binned all his 70 fleet Audis for Volvos - The Audis (most high spec A4s) kept breaking down.

TOOL!
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
You live in the south were you earn less money than the average londoner, and you have much much cheaper housing, yet you drive a astra. Somehow I dont think your making anywhere near as much as a london plumber does

Drove up to nottingham the other day and saw 3 broken down vauxhalls on the day. Vauxhalls are reliable? Yeah right

And the spelling was intentional you ****. I wrote it the way i did to accentuate just how much of a 9 stone "hulk like" moron you are

Supaaaa Looooosser
Please explain why living in the South means he earns less money than the average Londoner. Also please explain how you know he doesn't earn as much as a London plumber.
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
You earn less in the South than in London?!!

TOOL!

You saw three broken down Vauxhalls so they must be unreliable?

TOOL!

You think a plumber earns more than me and you don't even know what I do?

TOOL!

You think anyone with cash rushes out and buys a flash car?

TOOL!

You think anyone that can buy a new high spec car outright has no money?

TOOL!

Still going on about the 9 stone thing (for anyone else, I weigh 12 stone)?

TOOL!

BTW - My mates Dad, a director for a major haulage firm has just binned all his 70 fleet Audis for Volvos - The Audis (most high spec A4s) kept breaking down.

TOOL!

2.5 TDI's arent high spec, and audi dont even make them anymore. So much for being "high spec". That director was most likely looking for a excuse to cost cut

So matteeboy what do you do for a living other than prance about on cold beaches like a hippie fairy, whilst wearing your muscle suit specially designed for "hulk like" 9 stoners?
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
2.5 TDI's arent high spec, and audi dont even make them anymore.
AudiLover, please explain how you know the exact spec of this fleet of cars when you have never heard of them before. Audi has an extensive options list so they could well be fully loaded.
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Apart from bringing in several hundred quid a day doing freelance PR alongside my wife who is bringing in even more for companies like Sky, Walkers, etc , and being able to manage our own time, not a lot really.


Cutting costs?
The haulage firm have just increased their profits rather spectacularly this year. If you got out of London, you'd see their lorries all over the place.

Next question fat boy?
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Apart from bringing in several hundred quid a day doing freelance PR alongside my wife who is bringing in even more for companies like Sky, Walkers, etc , and being able to manage our own time, not a lot really.


Cutting costs?
The haulage firm have just increased their profits rather spectacularly this year. If you got out of London, you'd see their lorries all over the place.

Next question fat boy?
LOL if your making so much money and seeing as you live in such a low cost area why do you drive a astra? And you said that 24k was alot of money on a car for you, and that you bought a astra to save money, instead of splashing out double the amount on a car as you would rather see the measly 5% interest return you get on your savings. (which would be around 10k as were going by your old R32)

And companies like sky dont hire freelance PR people. They usually have their own staff for that, or get big london city firms to do it.

What makes me laugh is that you cant even have positive relations on scoobynet, never mind real life. Everyone thinks your a clueless moron witha opinion on everything but intelligence on nothing.

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