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Old 26 January 2007, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Maybe not, but equally I wouldn't wnat a bunch of thick racist ***** on my doorstep, but that is close to what I have living near BNP land.




you think i am "racist" tell me what is racist?
Old 26 January 2007, 09:35 AM
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Muslim bashing will go on no matter what the current reason is.. the world needs something new to hate so its Muslims for now.

I don't like how people group all muslims with being asian.. yes a large number are asian however labelling an entire group based on your perception of a small minority is wrong.

We could easily argue:

All british people are drunks becuase all they do is get drunk at football games and then get banned from those countries.


We all know its a small minority of hooligans but this doesn't stop those frog eating folks from thinking we are all a bunch of phish heads

We had a diverse community, ever since the goverment relaxed their immigration laws we have had a flood of very angry middle-east religious folk enter the mosques around the UK and spread their infectious ideoligy. Thats the heart of the problem, but a large population of the elder muslim generation are generally uneducated or will to accept change.

Due to their stupidity they allow these so called peers through their doors and allow these people to preach their venom. Unfrotunately its not just a problem due to middle-east people preaching in UK mosques. As that article pointed out, there are certain groups (usually from Asian Pakistani backgrounds) who are in the UK trying to promote their twisted ideas. All this creates confusion for the younger generation who are brought up in the UK, combine this with a densely populated asian area (of which there are many in the UK) and you have a melting pot for trouble.

To add fuel to the fire you have a goverment that says one thing and does the other. When this occurs on a dialy basis it creates a hostile atmosphere, asian communities become even more segregated and tend to close off to any outsiders (also an issue in Hindu and Sikh communities). This all fuels anger in the young muslim minds.. eventually some crack head preacher latches onto this fact and starts to promote his twisted ideas into that person - 'rinse and repeat' a thousand times.

I know many muslims who are not your typical black/brown stereo type, quite the opposite, White middle-class people who have 'reverted' to the religion of Islam.

End of the day I think we all need a little bit of patience with each other but you can't help but feel its all a bit... well bollox really

Life is too damn short
Old 26 January 2007, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by gatty



you think i am "racist" tell me what is racist?

No I didn't say that, you just made that association. Isn't that interesting?
Old 26 January 2007, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by gatty
im in the building game pete brynt trust me i know!!

, pubs are full of"racists" you want to try a few up and down the country instead of those bistros

love you pete

You'll excuse me if I don't take your word that the foundations of a mosque in Redditch consists of pigs heads. Christ even typing it back is like something out of Brass Eye, it so ridiculous.

Of course, pubs in certain areas that are full of racists, certainly there a one or two areas up where my kids live, but then there are a more than a few areas that have moved on.
Old 26 January 2007, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by finalzero
Muslim bashing will go on no matter what the current reason is.. the world needs something new to hate so its Muslims for now.

I don't like how people group all muslims with being asian.. yes a large number are asian however labelling an entire group based on your perception of a small minority is wrong.

We could easily argue:

All british people are drunks becuase all they do is get drunk at football games and then get banned from those countries.


We all know its a small minority of hooligans but this doesn't stop those frog eating folks from thinking we are all a bunch of phish heads

We had a diverse community, ever since the goverment relaxed their immigration laws we have had a flood of very angry middle-east religious folk enter the mosques around the UK and spread their infectious ideoligy. Thats the heart of the problem, but a large population of the elder muslim generation are generally uneducated or will to accept change.

Due to their stupidity they allow these so called peers through their doors and allow these people to preach their venom. Unfrotunately its not just a problem due to middle-east people preaching in UK mosques. As that article pointed out, there are certain groups (usually from Asian Pakistani backgrounds) who are in the UK trying to promote their twisted ideas. All this creates confusion for the younger generation who are brought up in the UK, combine this with a densely populated asian area (of which there are many in the UK) and you have a melting pot for trouble.

To add fuel to the fire you have a goverment that says one thing and does the other. When this occurs on a dialy basis it creates a hostile atmosphere, asian communities become even more segregated and tend to close off to any outsiders (also an issue in Hindu and Sikh communities). This all fuels anger in the young muslim minds.. eventually some crack head preacher latches onto this fact and starts to promote his twisted ideas into that person - 'rinse and repeat' a thousand times.

I know many muslims who are not your typical black/brown stereo type, quite the opposite, White middle-class people who have 'reverted' to the religion of Islam.

End of the day I think we all need a little bit of patience with each other but you can't help but feel its all a bit... well bollox really

Life is too damn short
Great post.
Old 26 January 2007, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
No I didn't say that, you just made that association. Isn't that interesting?
you didnt mean it then
Old 26 January 2007, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by finalzero
Muslim bashing will go on no matter what the current reason is.. the world needs something new to hate so its Muslims for now.

I don't like how people group all muslims with being asian.. yes a large number are asian however labelling an entire group based on your perception of a small minority is wrong.

We could easily argue:

All british people are drunks becuase all they do is get drunk at football games and then get banned from those countries.


We all know its a small minority of hooligans but this doesn't stop those frog eating folks from thinking we are all a bunch of phish heads

We had a diverse community, ever since the goverment relaxed their immigration laws we have had a flood of very angry middle-east religious folk enter the mosques around the UK and spread their infectious ideoligy. Thats the heart of the problem, but a large population of the elder muslim generation are generally uneducated or will to accept change.

Due to their stupidity they allow these so called peers through their doors and allow these people to preach their venom. Unfrotunately its not just a problem due to middle-east people preaching in UK mosques. As that article pointed out, there are certain groups (usually from Asian Pakistani backgrounds) who are in the UK trying to promote their twisted ideas. All this creates confusion for the younger generation who are brought up in the UK, combine this with a densely populated asian area (of which there are many in the UK) and you have a melting pot for trouble.

To add fuel to the fire you have a goverment that says one thing and does the other. When this occurs on a dialy basis it creates a hostile atmosphere, asian communities become even more segregated and tend to close off to any outsiders (also an issue in Hindu and Sikh communities). This all fuels anger in the young muslim minds.. eventually some crack head preacher latches onto this fact and starts to promote his twisted ideas into that person - 'rinse and repeat' a thousand times.

I know many muslims who are not your typical black/brown stereo type, quite the opposite, White middle-class people who have 'reverted' to the religion of Islam.

End of the day I think we all need a little bit of patience with each other but you can't help but feel its all a bit... well bollox really

Life is too damn short
very good post made a lot of sense to me and i agree. but patience is running low.
Old 26 January 2007, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
You'll excuse me if I don't take your word that the foundations of a mosque in Redditch consists of pigs heads. Christ even typing it back is like something out of Brass Eye, it so ridiculous.

Of course, pubs in certain areas that are full of racists, certainly there a one or two areas up where my kids live, but then there are a more than a few areas that have moved on.
where?

i seem to get in all the wrong pubs every time in work away?
Old 26 January 2007, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by gatty
you didnt mean it then
Mean what?

Let me spell it out for you. I merely said I didn't wnat a bunch of racists living on my doorstep, you made the association that I was refering to you when nowhere in my post did I say or imply that.

Make of that what you will.
Old 26 January 2007, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Mean what?

Let me spell it out for you. I merely said I didn't wnat a bunch of racists living on my doorstep, you made the association that I was refering to you when nowhere in my post did I say or imply that.

Make of that what you will.
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Old 26 January 2007, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by gatty
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lack of whirl????
Old 26 January 2007, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by harry007
It is being built by saudi's money. Not a penny was going to NHS, that Was A flop before it even started.



Can I ask What the hell is Wrong With scoobynet memberS. All I Ever See in the non relatEd section is, racist this, raciSt that, muslims etc and noW mosQueS lol


jee's get out more people
You could always just bugger off though!

Les
Old 26 January 2007, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gatty
i suppose its revenge for all the spit/spunk they put in your currys
I wonder if there is an allowable level.

I read about a restaurant once that was being investigated for having well above the normal levels of faecal matter allowable in food.
Old 26 January 2007, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI

I read about a restaurant once that was being investigated for having well above the normal levels of faecal matter allowable in food.
In this instance health inspectors suspicions were only aroused when a few punters commented that the food tasted better than normal!!
Old 26 January 2007, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
You could always just bugger off though!

Les

erm problem?

crawl back into your cage.
Old 26 January 2007, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gotmashed
What proof is there that this is being funded by the state??.......as Suresh says it is HIGHLY likely that Saudi Arabia would provide funds for a mosque, I do not know of any mosques in the UK that have been built with anything other than donations...
Old 26 January 2007, 04:25 PM
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I signed it,i also vote for the BNP
Old 26 January 2007, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by slickrick
I signed it,i also vote for the BNP
another one .....i never voted for them last time but seriously thinking about it this time

another "racist"

you have to show some backbone on here
Old 26 January 2007, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by slickrick
I signed it,i also vote for the BNP
Originally Posted by BNP
We do not accept the absurd superstition – propagated for different though sometimes overlapping reasons by capitalists, liberals, Marxists and theologians - of human equality
So, here is hte first overtly racist comment. What is basically being said here is that the BNP beleives that all men are not created equal, in fact, some races are superior to others. I seem to remember something happening in 1939-1945 due to this sort of attitude
Originally Posted by BNP
We would abolish all laws against racial discrimination in employment and the government bodies associated with enforcing them.
More overt racism. If the BNP were in power, it would be perfectly legal to refuse to hire someone because of thier colour. It would also be legal to sack someone "because they are black".

Originally Posted by BNP
A Clause 28-style proscription against the promotion of racial integration in schools and the media would be introduced..
Oooer, this is sounding a bit sinister. Controls on what the media are allowed to say? Control on what schools are allowed to say? Again - bit 1939.

Originally Posted by BNP
While accepting the right of law-abiding minorities, in our country because they or their ancestors came here legally, to remain here and to enjoy the full protection of the law against any form of harassment or hostility, we will also seek to emphasise the importance of the prior status of the aboriginal people. This would be a national extension of the ‘Sons and Daughters' policy in priority on housing and school places lists which BNP councils seek to implement at local level.
This is possibly the most sinister yet. It says that legal immigrants will have full protection, but it goes into no detail as to what form this "emphasising" of prior status would take....

Add to this the bizarre proposals of aboloshing income tax, and replace it with a duty on non-essentials spending (ie. the rich can keep thier money as long as they dont spend it) and the many other crackpot polices they have and I have one word to describe a BNP member, supporter or voter...


"C*nt."
Old 26 January 2007, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
"C*nt."
Strange that's the word I use to describe New Labour supporting PC leftwing Gay limbless lesbian loving liberals that have done to much to destroy the UK in the last 10 years.

The PC lefty socialists are the true ***** - and they are in power. I'll vote for anyone who opposes their corrupting subversive ideology.
Old 26 January 2007, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Strange that's the word I use to describe New Labour supporting PC leftwing Gay limbless lesbian loving liberals that have done to much to destroy the UK in the last 10 years.

The PC lefty socialists are the true ***** - and they are in power. I'll vote for anyone who opposes their corrupting subversive ideology.
This has to be the most non-racist, succint, pertinent and downright agreeable post I have ever had the fortune to read on Scoobynet.

Although I would temper it slightly and attribute it to all of the big 3 political parties.

Please dont take this to mean that I am a supporter of any party outside of the big 3.

Britain is going to pot sadly and it's getting worse. Pensioners going to jail for non payment of council tax while Paedo's escape custodial sentences as a prime example.

UB I salute you (but only on this post )
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
The PC lefty socialists are the true ***** - and they are in power. I'll vote for anyone who opposes their corrupting subversive ideology.
Lefty - *****.... Thats one of the biggest oxymorons I have ever seen I think.

Still, if you would like to point me to any part of the Labour Party manisfesto that show racisism even a tenth of that shown on the BNP site, I'll be happy to take a read.

I'm no fan of Labour, I won't be voting for them in the next election - But given an ultimatum, I would vote for them for the rest of my life rather than cast one vote for the BNP.
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Back on topic.

I've thought about this today and as the day has gone on the more I have become opposed to this ridiculous monstrosity that they are proposing to build.

This is the last thing that this country needs on so many levels. And I would say the same thing if it were a 70,000 seat church or synagogue.

Islam has effectively won over a secular state. In 20 years time this area will be a complete Muslim enclave, no doubt about it. What other person is going to want property in this area, as well as the Muslims coming from all over to live there. It will not surprise me at all if this becomes the first area where Sharia law is introduced to the UK. It will become a city within a city where non-Muslims will not dare to go.

From advancing this country from being controlled by the church and the heavy influence of religion to the modern Britain that is driven by science and reasoning we are essentially allowing the regression back to the dark ages by allowing the construction of this "brainwashing" centre.

No good will ever come of this whatsoever.
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Saudi Money... they've got loads - and this is their attitude to other peoples faith...
Saudi Arabia Bars Bible-Bearing Flight Attendant
The flight attendant, who works for British Midland Airways (BMI), is "a committed Christian [who] likes to take her Bible, which was once her mother's, with her when she travels," according to journalist Claire Bergen.
The British Foreign Office backed the airline. "The importation [to Saudi Arabia] and use of narcotics, alcohol, pork products and religious books, apart from the Quran (Koran), and artifacts are forbidden," it stated. The London Telegraph quoted a BMI official as saying, "We issue advice to all our staff and passengers that these are the guidelines. She is saying she wants to carry her Bible with her. We are saying we cannot start designing rules around individuals when we have several hundred members of staff. To take every personal preference into account would be impossible."
AND - our government rolls over and does whatever any foreign power tells them too - it's as bad as with the EU - agreeing to add all these thousands of extra laws just so we can stay in the club!

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The really funny part is that Places like Iran have large Christian populations and heavily advertise one of the oldest christian churches in the world as part of their tourist literature but the great mates of the UK and US Saudi Arabia has made bibles illegal. So why is the most corrupt evil state in the middle east, the one which supplied the 9/11 bombers Saudi Arabia; the state with strongest links and diplomatic ties to the US after Israel ?
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With all the terrorist activity going on in the country just now,i think its a good time to ressurect this thread. The last thing we need is a huge Mosque that will dominate the London skyline,and encourage the purveyors of hatred any more.This could be another Finsbury park on a larger scale.Don't let that idiot Livingstone waste anymore of our cash.Its time they realised What Great Britain is all about and should love it or leave it!

Petition to: Abolish plans to build a £100 million mega Mosque.
Old 01 July 2007, 01:23 PM
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get them to build muslim prisons so it makes more room for the native idiots.

And they can self fund the prisons instead of the likes of me the tax payer looking after the *****.
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I would object to public money being spent on religious purposes whichever club it was for, its all bollocks, I appreciate churches do some good community work but cant that be done without dressing it up as religion.
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
What a great plan


FFS people, It's private money. If the proposed building satisfies local planning requirements why shouldn't they be allowed to spend their own money how they want too
If its private money of that vast quantity.....it should be dealt with in the Brown way.....TAX it all.

Yes that would be good, a 60% tax on all private funding to build new religous facilities. The exception only will be to restore current facilities, but not to extend them.

That would shut them up


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