Auto Express 130i v S3 v R32 v C30
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An interesting article (if you speak German) but it's certainly a slow ring time (8:49)
sport auto Supertest: VW Golf V R32 - Supercars.net
sport auto Supertest: VW Golf V R32 - Supercars.net
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An interesting article (if you speak German) but it's certainly a slow ring time (8:49)
sport auto Supertest: VW Golf V R32 - Supercars.net
sport auto Supertest: VW Golf V R32 - Supercars.net
Then the track time ... on the TopGear track if I recall it went around 2 sec faster than the old one and just 0.3 sec slower than an STI, about the same results in a Monza test done by an italian mag ... but in that german test at the Ring it's 12sec slower than the old one.
Frankly doesn't make much sense ... 2 sec faster than the old one on a short tight slow track like the TG one (therefore where weight is a bigger penalty) should mean at least 10 sec FASTER at the Ring, ... ? They got 12 sec SLOWER! Who was driving the thing???
Doesn't change my personal test-drive opinion, but certainly that test got bizzarre figures, very different from all other tests.
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I tried to translate the summary :
One can torment it and almost violent into the corners throw - the VOLKSWAGEN R32 puts also with switched off ESP a reliable handling to the day - and forgives thereby as well as each error. The driving joy and subjectively felt speed receives however by the disappointing Round time a strong absorber. The twelve seconds arrears to the predecessor are a disgrace, which has its cause primarily in the strongly increased weight
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What were the timings for the cars 0-100?
13secs seems very quick for a 260bhp 4wd hatchback, i think someone might have fiddled with it before testing Wouldn't be the 1st time
13secs seems very quick for a 260bhp 4wd hatchback, i think someone might have fiddled with it before testing Wouldn't be the 1st time
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And also remember the quality gripping surface at santapod!
The 1.8T engine was renound for being a tunable beast, but this new 2.0 engine looks even better...
B&B Audi S3 2.0 TFSI up to 362hp !
306bhp from just a remap
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You finished your month long sulking now and come back for more skinny faggit? You must have really felt the cold today seein as you aint got much meat on your bones Mr. Im "hulk like"
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Ah yes, nice and relevant to the thread once again AL.
I do wish we could meet in person and chat this through to avoid boring the rest of SN but tragically you live too far away.
I can tell you, it would be very funny indeed and well worth filming.
I do wish we could meet in person and chat this through to avoid boring the rest of SN but tragically you live too far away.
I can tell you, it would be very funny indeed and well worth filming.
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Any trustworthy tuners for the S3?
A remap might give it some more life. Of course then there is the thing that hurts if you muck it up: "Warranty Void!"
Then again I would think that the R32 might just be a bit more tunable thanks to the engine size.......that V6 does sound nice!
As far as mags testing cars and getting such wayout results, I think it is just down to not doing enough runs and trying to get things averaged out, and lets not forget the driver's skill may vary quite a lot.....guess I am just repeating what has been said and thought before.
The R32 and the S3 rule over the compettion easily.
Last but not least I would never buy a 130i cause it is a miniature car made for midgets! (oh, and posers!)
A remap might give it some more life. Of course then there is the thing that hurts if you muck it up: "Warranty Void!"
Then again I would think that the R32 might just be a bit more tunable thanks to the engine size.......that V6 does sound nice!
As far as mags testing cars and getting such wayout results, I think it is just down to not doing enough runs and trying to get things averaged out, and lets not forget the driver's skill may vary quite a lot.....guess I am just repeating what has been said and thought before.
The R32 and the S3 rule over the compettion easily.
Last but not least I would never buy a 130i cause it is a miniature car made for midgets! (oh, and posers!)
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totally off topic ...but
being skinny has its advantages (not that i'd know being 5 ft 8 and almost 14 stone,i weight trained a good few years )line a skinny guy up against a heavier built guy on 2 similar racing karts and even 1 stone difference will leave the fat guy wishing he was thin,2 or 3 stone and you may as well just forget it ....or cheat
so Matt just offer him out at a kart racing event.
being skinny has its advantages (not that i'd know being 5 ft 8 and almost 14 stone,i weight trained a good few years )line a skinny guy up against a heavier built guy on 2 similar racing karts and even 1 stone difference will leave the fat guy wishing he was thin,2 or 3 stone and you may as well just forget it ....or cheat
so Matt just offer him out at a kart racing event.
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Works both ways though. I did karting once or twice and I was dog slow (15+ stone) compared to the lighter peeps when accelerating. However the high speed corners I had that much extra weight pushing down giving me great grip and I flew past them round the corners Just had to fend them off coming out of slow corners while I accelerated. Came 1st, 2nd, 1st in the 3 races
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Taken from RS6.com:
German AutoBild has taken the S3 around the DTM track at Oschersleben, and posted a time of 1.49:12. That was 3-3,5 secs (!!!) faster than the BMW 130i, the Mazda 3 MPS and the Golf R32 tested at the same time! And even more interestingly, it's 1,5 secs better than they managed in the TT 3,2. In my book, that's simply playing in two different leagues. In fact, their time in an RS4 Saloon (posted on a separate occasion) was only 4 tenths of a second quicker. Bear in mind though that Oschersleben isn't really a high-speed circuit where the RS4 can really benefit from its power advantage. Instead, it rather suffers slightly from its extra weight. At Nordschleife, I think the S3 would be miles adrift.
One comment from the testers was that the S3 is so well balanced and efficient that it's almost boring, and that it's only when you look at the watch you realise exactly how quick it really is.
German AutoBild has taken the S3 around the DTM track at Oschersleben, and posted a time of 1.49:12. That was 3-3,5 secs (!!!) faster than the BMW 130i, the Mazda 3 MPS and the Golf R32 tested at the same time! And even more interestingly, it's 1,5 secs better than they managed in the TT 3,2. In my book, that's simply playing in two different leagues. In fact, their time in an RS4 Saloon (posted on a separate occasion) was only 4 tenths of a second quicker. Bear in mind though that Oschersleben isn't really a high-speed circuit where the RS4 can really benefit from its power advantage. Instead, it rather suffers slightly from its extra weight. At Nordschleife, I think the S3 would be miles adrift.
One comment from the testers was that the S3 is so well balanced and efficient that it's almost boring, and that it's only when you look at the watch you realise exactly how quick it really is.
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totally off topic ...but
being skinny has its advantages (not that i'd know being 5 ft 8 and almost 14 stone,i weight trained a good few years )line a skinny guy up against a heavier built guy on 2 similar racing karts and even 1 stone difference will leave the fat guy wishing he was thin,2 or 3 stone and you may as well just forget it ....or cheat
so Matt just offer him out at a kart racing event.
being skinny has its advantages (not that i'd know being 5 ft 8 and almost 14 stone,i weight trained a good few years )line a skinny guy up against a heavier built guy on 2 similar racing karts and even 1 stone difference will leave the fat guy wishing he was thin,2 or 3 stone and you may as well just forget it ....or cheat
so Matt just offer him out at a kart racing event.
AL just has this rather warped obsession but funnily enough although he goes on about weights (and cars) he actually has never proved he's anything other than a 7 stone wiener or 18 stone lardbucket.
Back onto the cars - I tested a 3.2 A3 (newer shape) and an old shape S3 when I went for the Golf and both left me feeling underwhelmed.
In fact wife, who's quite a handy driver (she was drove around in her Dad's S2 the week after she passed her test, has driven Supras, Scoobies and all sorts and drives well) really disliked the A3 big time.
As soon as we stepped into the Golf, we knew we had to have it.
I can imagine it's similar with the latest ones.
An S3 well balanced with all that weight at the front -Eh?
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balance isnt all about weight distribution and your stupid to compare a A3 3.2 againt the R32 as the audi will be geared towards comfort. Get the A3 3.2 S-line and well thats another story.
And if your muscular BMI dont apply to you as it doesnt compute with muscular people. Obviously your just skinny with a keg belly
And if your muscular BMI dont apply to you as it doesnt compute with muscular people. Obviously your just skinny with a keg belly
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Isn't the S-Line just rock hard suspension and some fake S style bodykit and alloys?!
Hardly the solution for average handling.
Last sentence makes no sense as usual.
Hardly the solution for average handling.
Last sentence makes no sense as usual.
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And you say the R32 is good but the audi is avaergae handling when its on the same fookin chassis (and yet a s-line A3 is faster than the R32 and GTI golfs )
And the last sentence you dont understand because your as thick as a sack of horse ****
#60
First you say the chassis is different.
..and then you contradict yourself by saying they're the same all within the space of 15 minutes. Talk about short term memory!!!