OK, sorry, I'll answer your question to the best of my knowledge.
You're arrested when the officer says........
wait for it....
"I'm placing you under arrest"

When you have handcuffs on you're being restrained, ie if you could be construed as dangerous or, in this instance about to leg it.

Hope this helps

 

check out Home Office | Car Theft Index 2006

this has Imprezas as 'red' - most desirable!

 

 

How old is that list?

1. Vauxhall Belmont
2. Vauxhall Astra Mk2
3. Ford Escort Mk3
4. Austin/Morris Metro
5. Vauxhall Nova
6. Ford Orion
7. Rover Metro
8. Austin/Morris Maestro
9. Austin/Morris Montego
10. Ford Fiesta Mks1, 2 and 3

Ain't seen most of those on roads in years.

 

So he pulled into a petrol station to 'leg it'? Yea right!

 

Agree it was a little heavy handed, But I would only report him if he wasn't apologetic for his mistake. We moan when we feel the police are not heavy handed enough, One of the reasons why the police are not heavy handed is because of exactly this. If they go in guns blazing and make a mistake then there is holy **** to pay. It's a fine line they walk.
I for one feel they should be doing this more but this is only my opinion.

Chris.

 

Which will have "unfortunately" disappeared.

Alcazar

 

Similar thing happened to me a few year ago.

Was going around a roundabout on my way to a petrol station, copper waiting to join the traffic. I went up the road pulled into the petrol station and had started filling up. The copper car pulled up behind mine, stupid probationer, I presume, gets out, walks over and I kid you not, asked me; "Do you know why we stopped you?"

Stopped me? WTF

He went around the car, checking things like tax disc etc and asking stupid ******* questions, ie - "Is this vehicle taxed?" whilst looking directly at the tax disc

Fukcing *****, I wish I'd reported him.

Micky

 

And then when he sees some toerag in your car he won't stop them because he would be reported!!

I think it assures all of us that they are keen

 

When I was stopped I was glad to see they were doing checks on these cars and checking that people aren't drink driving. I think him stopping you was fair enough.

Saying the car isn't yours was actually true if it's registered to a female so you can't complain about that. Yeah the cuffs were a bit harsh but if he thought you might have done a runner and stolen another then perhaps it was necessary (especially if he was on his own).

There's a lot of 'anti-police' threads on here at the moment but to be honest if they are looking after our cars (which most of them seem to be) then I'm 100% behind them, and no i'm not a copper.

 

LOL at the most commonly stolen car in 2005 being the Vauxhall Belmont ! Seems the most popular cars with the light fingered are the simply the easiest to steal ! Still, I would think that pro rata (as in their proprtion of the total no of cars within the UK), more Scoobs are stolen than the average 4 door saloon.

So are hoodies banned from their own cars as well as shopping centres ?

 

The moral of the stroy is.........next time you borrow the wifes car, borrow a dress too.


Personally I probably wouldn't be too happy to be treated like that, but if your car had been stolen and that was the criminal you would be happy about it.

He was lucky you didn't clobber him one tho when he approached you from behind like that and took your keys. That would have been intersting

 

cookstar,

1. not always if its for the officers safety or to prevent further crime occuring ie the little blighter running away or driving away.

2. yes police officers do have the right ot de arrest someone. its at their discretion.


just so you know

 

I really think you was very slow there mate to let some one reach in and get your keys and not stop them , you should be locked up for that alone

 

pursue the peeler - settle for no less than a hanging

 

they nick them from breakers yards

 

i did i very simlar thing today, i did a mobile check on a car, it flashed "no insurance" on the MDT, so the driver got pulled over, and he was detained until we could confirm insurance. later in the day we has a very simlar situation as this, the car checked came up as owned by a male and insured for the said owner only, and the driver looked like a female, again stopped and detained until insurance could be verified. If the copper felt he had to use his handcuffs, and could justify(which he would be able to, bare in mind he has to justify why he used them) then h has done nothing wrong. If i was out by myself and felt that handcuffing someone to the car was my only option until pars/insurance etc could be verified, or backup arrive(remember being in a hoodie makes you look hard lol!) then i would be quite happy to justify this to my skipper.
If any complaint is made then the first thing woudl be the copper would be asked why he used the bracelets to detain the driver, to which he would reply using one of the reasons above perhpas.
just be glad you was stopped driving your wifes car rather than some ****** not being stopped for drivin your wifes car.

 

This used to be my local until Seamer Road started selling V-Power - much closer

 

never a better word typed....

 

Good point, well made!!

Seriously though, you should not have been handcuffed. IIRC An officer is only allowed to use handcuffs if they have reasonable grounds for believing that the person concerned would otherwise attempt to escape. He had your keys, you weren't resisting, you had not tried to outrun him in the car.

Make a complaint now and ask the petrol station for their CCTV footage just in case!

Ns04

 

Hood on in car? What no heating or you a gangsta! I take it you was gloved up aswell.

 

If this was America, You'd have a gun pointed at your head and would be told to STFU and lay on the ground....THEN you can plead your case

BUT they would only do that ifthey had reasonable suspicion. So I think the copper in this case was somewhat narrow minded in his beliefs as what consitutes a stolen car.

But anyhoo..

Hoody/cap...how old are you? Your car has a heater, if your head is cold use it

Golden rule: First thing coppers look at is your head wear, if you wear a beany/cap/hoody in a car, consider yourself a marked man.

Vanity has its prices.

 

I would take this further if I was you. My mate is a copper and the things that he has told me that people get away with is untrue! I got a off duty copper try to do me for speeding and driving like a tw@t - when my mate told me to pursue it, they don't follow it up.

My advice is to challange them. Too many people get scared and feel vunerable because of the position that they hold.

 

Seamer road is my local too but I just love the blast down the A64 to Staxton

 

blatant lies.

you don't get handcuffed to your car for no reason,

just sad so many people jump on the bandwagon and believe such nonsense.

 

My hood wasnt up as I wasnt pimping my bi*ches at that point....

 

Can you explain a bit further??

 

I was going to ask for where he is stationed, and his badge number.

So I can write a letter of congratulations for detaining a hoodie

 

Thanks

 

It's hard to comment on a single sided view of the event, but as mentioned - if after confirming there was no need to handcuff, and subsequently arrest, I would have hoped said policia made polite, apologised, explained and went on his way?

A few years ago, I was working in Somerset as part of a year placement from my University degree course and the firm I was working for provided me with a (please don't laugh) Vauxhall Calibra company car so I could visit the regional offices. Anyway, I was seeing a girl who was working out by Stansted at the time, and would regularly make the drive up the M5, across the A303, M25, M11 and into the Stansted Airport road complex in order to get to the little village where she was living. Mostly this was a case of driving like a complete 'man possessed' in order to get there at a reasonable our on a Friday night. Usually no issues, however one night I am stopped by a couple of Police Officers at the Stansted perimeter, both of whom were carrying sub-machine guns .. they are polite, but to the point:

Q: What are you doing?
A: Going to see my girlfriend, she lives in the village just over yonder (I forget the name)

Q: OK, is this your car?
A: No, its a company car

Q: What do you do?
A: I'm a student at University ...

Puzzled look on both faces, and one decides to take a look at the car as the other continues ... so how come you have a 'company car'?

Realising that, while answering honestly (and a little tired), what I had said made no sense at all! Anyway, I was quick to provide more specific details and apologised for not making myself clearer to begin with. They both had a good laugh at my expense, and told me drive safely.

Anyway - that story was probably a lot more interesting if you were there! The reason for telling it, is that (a) I still find it amusing, and (b) the Police are paid to be suspicious and I for one applaud pro-activity on their part.

I now live in a country where all the Police are armed, and I feel that if the UK Police were enabled to carry guns, that handcuffing a suspect was less necessary as, if said suspect does do a runner said suspect knew they risked being shot at! Lethal force might not be the right answer, but most actual criminals rarely seem to fear the police as they become less and less respected.

If your car has been stolen, or if it ever is stolen I think you might applaud the proactivity of the police in just such an example as illustrated by the OP, if it returned your vehicle and apprehended the thief. If in dealing with a suspect the police are rude, offensive or over zealous to the point of exceeding their authority, then you have a right to complain and file formal grievance - that is not in question.

Sheesh, its amazing how a couple of drinks and the boredom of NFL playoffs can make you type so much!

- Jon