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Old 11 January 2007, 10:45 AM
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206 GTi?
Old 11 January 2007, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
What car should I look out for?

You missed a good dig there, you could have said I think I've seen your can when I overtook you . You can call people all the names under the sun and slag the mum off, but making a mockery of their driving is the worst insult know to mankind.
I wouldn't have a dig unless someone deserved it. I don't claim to be an ace driver either, there's room for improvement that's for sure.

I change cars fairly frequently, at the moment I'm in an E46 330XD but I reckon next time I go I'll be in a rental car. I know your car so I'll be sure to come and say hello (might not mention I'm Torpid for a while though )
Old 11 January 2007, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
So what evidence do you have of my low IQ score??
I didn't claim you had a 'low IQ score'. Your obvious lack of comprehension is evidence for some of my suppositions however.
Old 11 January 2007, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Torpid
You obviously need to check your facts then. Were you there? Do you know what I look like? Did you talk to me?

As for allegations of trolling I believe your post here contributes nothing to the thread and could be said to be the same.
Of course i didn't talk to you....you weren't there
Old 11 January 2007, 10:48 AM
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Peugeot : V '99 Gti-6 phase 3
Old 11 January 2007, 10:49 AM
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And your 'social skills' are up there Mary Poppins!
Old 11 January 2007, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Assuming you can afford to run it that looks like a really nice car.

Should add I'd be suspicious about the lowered suspension though.

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Old 11 January 2007, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
Of course i didn't talk to you....you weren't there
Yet another incorrect statement from the insurance salesman. Explain how you know my movements, as far as I'm aware I don't carry a tracking device.
Old 11 January 2007, 10:52 AM
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25K a year
£800 a month for bills (inc mortgage)
No debts

Yes, I think I can afford it.
Old 11 January 2007, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
25K a year
£800 a month for bills (inc mortgage)
No debts

Yes, I think I can afford it.
I didn't ask for a financial statement, I'm not one of your creditors.

BTW a mortgage is a debt. Yet further evidence that reinforces my opinion..........
Old 11 January 2007, 10:58 AM
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No debts other than the mortgage that I stated!
I didn't ask for your sarcastic remarks, but hey ho, that's life!
Old 11 January 2007, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ///\oo/\\\
But how many are bog standard ex factory cars?

Most of them, other than maybe a brake pad upgrade
Old 11 January 2007, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
No debts other than the mortgage that I stated!
I didn't ask for your sarcastic remarks, but hey ho, that's life!
The remarks weren't sarcastic. Merely an observation that like many sad, deluded souls you categorise 'Mortgage' as a 'bill' rather than what it actually is 'a debt'
I suppose it helps people rationalise things, after all, very few people like to think that they are actually in debt to the tune of tens (or hundreds) of thousands of pounds which is the reality of the situation.
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Most of them, other than maybe a brake pad upgrade
In your experience then is the MKIII the most popular version of Golf used on the Nordschleife? Is the MKIII a common sight?

I can only think of a couple I've seen in comparison to the myriad of MKIIs.
Old 11 January 2007, 11:05 AM
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My reason for putting the 172 in the ring is as follows.

You can get a 70K 2000 car for the budget money
Everyone knows they have proven smiles per miles (benchmark car)
Interiors can be a little creaky (what do you want for £3500?)
They give good mpg
They are made using newer technology than most if not all of the other cars mentioned.
I cant say as I have heard of one with an engine problem (probably about to be proved wrong though)
Parts are pretty cheap and plentyful


If you need something reliable dont bother with a 205 or a clio williams newer technology will always win.

All IMHO of course.

Gary
Old 11 January 2007, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Torpid
In your experience then is the MKIII the most popular version of Golf used on the Nordschleife? Is the MKIII a common sight?

I can only think of a couple I've seen in comparison to the myriad of MKIIs.

The MK2 golf with an engine upgrade is the most common choice I would suggest.

Gary
Old 11 January 2007, 11:11 AM
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GTI 6. I own one and it's great, you'll get told that they're unreliable bla bla bla but mines never let me down (touch the biggest bit of wood known to man!)

You cant got wrong with the GTI 6 but I would consider a rallye as well. As someone has already said they're pretty much a GTI without air con and electric windows and mirrors.

You might want to think about a Clio Williams as well.
Old 11 January 2007, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by hojkoff
GTI 6. I own one and it's great, you'll get told that they're unreliable bla bla bla but mines never let me down (touch the biggest bit of wood known to man!)

You cant got wrong with the GTI 6 but I would consider a rallye as well. As someone has already said they're pretty much a GTI without air con and electric windows and mirrors.

You might want to think about a Clio Williams as well.
The problem as I see it with the Rallye is that it's more likely to have been thrashed as thats its purpose and that you could carry out your own weight saving measures at zero cost to a GTI-6 and get the same results.
Old 11 January 2007, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
The MK2 golf with an engine upgrade is the most common choice I would suggest.

Gary

Sorry for going off Topic but what sort of engine upgrades do the MK2's run i.e 1.8T's ???? that would be a great idea for a track/ring car.

how do they fare against other more powerful cars around the ring?
Old 11 January 2007, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Torpid
Yet another incorrect statement from the insurance salesman. Explain how you know my movements, as far as I'm aware I don't carry a tracking device.
Broker, not salesman

When you post on other threads about the dates you'll be at the ring and what car you'll be in it does draw attention to yourself.
A few member of this and another forum were keeping their eyes out for you on the date you said you'd be there...and you weren't.

Anyway, lets try to keep this thread on topic shall we...
Old 11 January 2007, 11:47 AM
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Old 11 January 2007, 11:53 AM
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Just get rid of him then! He's broken just about every rule the book.......again, yet he is still allowed to post!
Old 11 January 2007, 12:38 PM
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Proper curve if you are looking to ford 1.7 Puma, great chassis and buzzy zetec engine

eBay.co.uk: 1997 Ford Puma Silver (item 170038900311 end time 11-Jan-07 14:00:44 GMT)

some recommendations (inc Puma) here

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Originally Posted by The Chief
Sorry for going off Topic but what sort of engine upgrades do the MK2's run i.e 1.8T's ???? that would be a great idea for a track/ring car.

how do they fare against other more powerful cars around the ring?
Most popular mk2 engine upgrades are the VR6 lump and the 1.8T lump.
With proper brakes they are very quick indeed around a track.

Standard 16v engine is very difficult to get more power from - 30bhp extra if you're lucky.
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Scooby for that sort of money ?
Old 11 January 2007, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonto
Scooby for that sort of money ?
Hows that a hot-hatch?
Besides, I already have one.
I will only sell mine for the right money, and only replace it with something that is better on fuel/insurance, but still fun to drive.
Old 11 January 2007, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
Broker, not salesman

When you post on other threads about the dates you'll be at the ring and what car you'll be in it does draw attention to yourself.
A few member of this and another forum were keeping their eyes out for you on the date you said you'd be there...and you weren't.

Anyway, lets try to keep this thread on topic shall we...
Salesman, broker to paraphrase Will himself

'What's in a name, a turd by any other name would smell just as............ '

The fact I didn't come to the ring in my old S8 when it had been sold by that point is hardly a surprise............
Old 11 January 2007, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Most popular mk2 engine upgrades are the VR6 lump and the 1.8T lump.
With proper brakes they are very quick indeed around a track.

Standard 16v engine is very difficult to get more power from - 30bhp extra if you're lucky.
The most succesful engine upgrade I've seen to a MKII Golf is G60 based. VR6 conversions are meant to screw up the handling. Believe it or not there are also some PD150 MKII's out there as well.

The rarest I've seen there was one of very few the Golf II G60 Limited's but the guy was extremely careful with it so it wasn't quick.
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Originally Posted by Torpid
The most succesful engine upgrade I've seen to a MKII Golf is G60 based. VR6 conversions are meant to screw up the handling. Believe it or not there are also some PD150 MKII's out there as well.

The rarest I've seen there was one of very few the Golf II G60 Limited's but the guy was extremely careful with it so it wasn't quick.

Well the VR6 is a heavy unit and 174bhp, so maybe a 1.8t unit with a remap at 210bhp maybe the way to go.
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Originally Posted by The Chief
Well the VR6 is a heavy unit and 174bhp, so maybe a 1.8t unit with a remap at 210bhp maybe the way to go.
A G60 can make that.


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