Best hot hatch upto £3500??
10 January 2007, 01:42 PM
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Best hot hatch upto £3500??
Looking for a hot hatch as new as possible. Think this only really leaves the 306gti-6, but are there any other options?
What are the 16v golf mk3's like??
What are the 16v golf mk3's like??
10 January 2007, 01:44 PM
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10 January 2007, 01:46 PM
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I had one for three years and loved it (a mk3 Golf 16V Gti).
In fact at one point me, Mum and Dad had one each and had a six pager in "Volkswagen Driver!"
I'd say the Pug has the edge on handling and it's slightly quicker but the Golf is WAY more solid and is a good MWay cruiser.
The engine is bombproof and very cheap to run - Just make sure the cambelt has been changed at 70k - Vital.
Many go for the VR6 but it's much thirstier, pricier and softer than the 16v in set up. The 16v is a much better balanced car.
If you can find a good one, I highly recommend them - Go for as late as possible (mine was one of the last built) and avoid any S African built ones.
Torpid - Hmm, must take you out for a pint one day.
NOT.
In fact at one point me, Mum and Dad had one each and had a six pager in "Volkswagen Driver!"
I'd say the Pug has the edge on handling and it's slightly quicker but the Golf is WAY more solid and is a good MWay cruiser.
The engine is bombproof and very cheap to run - Just make sure the cambelt has been changed at 70k - Vital.
Many go for the VR6 but it's much thirstier, pricier and softer than the 16v in set up. The 16v is a much better balanced car.
If you can find a good one, I highly recommend them - Go for as late as possible (mine was one of the last built) and avoid any S African built ones.
Torpid - Hmm, must take you out for a pint one day.
NOT.
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Jesus, torpid, what is it with you?
Hard up? I think that buying my own place with my fiancee, saving for a wedding, running my old mans business since he had a stroke over a year ago, being 24 and being able to afford a 3.5K car is not exactly hard up!
You really can be an ar&ehole sometimes.
Now f%ck off!
Hard up? I think that buying my own place with my fiancee, saving for a wedding, running my old mans business since he had a stroke over a year ago, being 24 and being able to afford a 3.5K car is not exactly hard up!
You really can be an ar&ehole sometimes.
Now f%ck off!
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Jesus, torpid, what is it with you?
Hard up? I think that buying my own place with my fiancee, saving for a wedding, running my old mans business since he had a stroke over a year ago, being 24 and being able to afford a 3.5K car is not exactly hard up!
You really can be an ar&ehole sometimes.
Now f%ck off!
Hard up? I think that buying my own place with my fiancee, saving for a wedding, running my old mans business since he had a stroke over a year ago, being 24 and being able to afford a 3.5K car is not exactly hard up!
You really can be an ar&ehole sometimes.
Now f%ck off!
The MK3 Golf 16V GTI is not a good hot hatch in my opinion. Despite what the other poster says they are poorly built compared to the MKII or MKIV, are not a good drive and command lower values than a MKII, which has to say something about them. I've driven 8v, 16V and VR6 and don't rate any of them other than the VR6 as a cruiser.
Of the cars available to you in the hot hatch class I'd take a GTI-6 above all the other choices. Although as you are clearly potless perhaps a Mondeo or Vectra diesel might be a smarter choice?
10 January 2007, 01:56 PM
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What are the 106/306 like for reliability?
And I wouldn't be seen dead in a saxo!
Have also heard some horror stories about the 172's!
And I wouldn't be seen dead in a saxo!
Have also heard some horror stories about the 172's!
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I had a mk4 golf 1.6 16v for 3 years. That WAS poorly built! 10 trips to the dealers for warrenty work in 2.5 years!
10 January 2007, 01:59 PM
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Only the South African mk3s suffered on build - Any German built ones were rock solid.
Mine never missed a beat in 25k miles and three years of ownership.
And I had a mk2 before it and a mk4 after it so have a fairly good idea of how they compare.
Mk4s handle appallingly - Apart from the R32 I had. Mk2s handle pretty well but have no brakes.
Mk3 is a good blend of reasonable performance and comfort.
And they'll outlast anything French by years.
Mine never missed a beat in 25k miles and three years of ownership.
And I had a mk2 before it and a mk4 after it so have a fairly good idea of how they compare.
Mk4s handle appallingly - Apart from the R32 I had. Mk2s handle pretty well but have no brakes.
Mk3 is a good blend of reasonable performance and comfort.
And they'll outlast anything French by years.
10 January 2007, 02:00 PM
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I'm not interested in the sordid little details of your life. You asked for information I gave it.
The MK3 Golf 16V GTI is not a good hot hatch in my opinion. Despite what the other poster says they are poorly built compared to the MKII or MKIV, are not a good drive and command lower values than a MKII, which has to say something about them. I've driven 8v, 16V and VR6 and don't rate any of them other than the VR6 as a cruiser.
Of the cars available to you in the hot hatch class I'd take a GTI-6 above all the other choices. Although as you are clearly potless perhaps a Mondeo or Vectra diesel might be a smarter choice?
The MK3 Golf 16V GTI is not a good hot hatch in my opinion. Despite what the other poster says they are poorly built compared to the MKII or MKIV, are not a good drive and command lower values than a MKII, which has to say something about them. I've driven 8v, 16V and VR6 and don't rate any of them other than the VR6 as a cruiser.
Of the cars available to you in the hot hatch class I'd take a GTI-6 above all the other choices. Although as you are clearly potless perhaps a Mondeo or Vectra diesel might be a smarter choice?
10 January 2007, 02:02 PM
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The MK3 8v Golf GTI was woefully slow - however the 16v pushes 150bhp so is quite brisk and as for the handling - well nothing that a few hundred quid couldn't sort as for poorly built, your having a laugh arn't you. I owned a MK2 and ok the MK3 wasn't as sharp driving wise but the build quality is as good if not better.
Loads of these for 2-3k
Loads of these for 2-3k
10 January 2007, 02:03 PM
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BTW I also think MKIV golfs are ****, just not as bad as a MKIII.
3.5K spent on a MKII Golf Gti and a brake upgrade would be a smarter move and get you a car that might actually be worth something if you don't wreck it.
3.5K spent on a MKII Golf Gti and a brake upgrade would be a smarter move and get you a car that might actually be worth something if you don't wreck it.
10 January 2007, 02:36 PM
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It will be worth 3.5K when you come to sell it unlike a MKIII.
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If you can do without little comforts like electric windows and air con try and find a 306 Rallye. There basically a lightened GTI-6. I had one and regreted selling it 
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10 January 2007, 02:56 PM
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The rallye is one of those cars I always wanted but never got round to owning but a GTI-6 is more or less the same thing isn't it?