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Old 24 December 2006, 11:38 PM
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Well you see i am only 21 years old and own a blob eye sti type uk. i would have loved one of the white spec c type ra's that you have in stock but most insurance companies want an arm and a leg for insurance.

i read that in a previous post that are also 21. Drinving an rs4 daily. Fair play to you that man, i just need to work a little harder so that i can have a white spec c type ra and an rs4. LOL

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Well you see i am only 21 years old and own a blob eye sti type uk. i would have loved one of the white spec c type ra's that you have in stock but most insurance companies want an arm and a leg for insurance.

i read that in a previous post that are also 21. Drinving an rs4 daily. Fair play to you that man, i just need to work a little harder so that i can have a white spec c type ra and an rs4. LOL


Hi fella

95% of insurance companies will insure jap spec cars. When i was searching for quotes on the RA they all quoted me against the wr1 and confirmed it with the underwriters and were happy to insure the car.

When your ready for a spec c give me a shout

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sounds good, live in lincs but usually over in wilmslow often so might pop over. Merry christmas!
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Originally Posted by GeoffMM
sounds good, live in lincs but usually over in wilmslow often so might pop over. Merry christmas!
Let me know when your about as i drive through wilmslow every other day.
You can have a blast of the spec c so you can know what to expect when you get yours
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is it really a great deal different to my existing my03 sti uk? non ppp
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Originally Posted by GeoffMM
is it really a great deal different to my existing my03 sti uk? non ppp

Theres my number Performance Centre Manchester give me a call when you come down and you'll find out for yourself.
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the black spec c on your website is
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Black car, black interior, defi guages

As Immy said earlier, a few mods & you got a RB320 just it's got more power & the JDM twin scroll turbo ... no brainer surely

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the black spec c on your website is
Old 25 December 2006, 12:42 AM
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just wish i had that kind of money i would have that over a rb320
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This is proving an interesting thread and is no doubt a dilemma that a few people will be going though.

The JDM models represent perhaps the more 'hardcore' versions and appeal to the more select buyer. These people seek generally what may be considered as the most technologically advanced versions available off the production line, but are willing to sacrifice perhaps some of the peace of mind 'extras' that come with buying a new UK model from a franchised dealer.

My first Impreza was a MY04 STi which I bought from a UK main dealer. At that time, the WR1 was still available to buy, indeed the dealer had one for sale in their showroom. At the time I thought it was overpriced, but I was a Scooby novice at the time (not that I class myself as an expert now). I then proceeded to buy the PPP kit, Prodrive spring kit and a set of PFF7 alloys. By this time, I 'd spent more than the cost of a WR1, I didn't have the extra power, DCCD and I didn't have a car with a limited production of 500 units.

However, it didn't take long to realise that I wished I had bought a JDM version. For my personal circumstances the 'pros' outweighed the 'cons'.

The specification of the MY06 Spec C (no pun intended) sold me the car. I wasn't overly worried that it was perceived as a bit more 'raw' compared to even the standard JDM STi, in fact it was a darn site quieter than the UK supplied Evo IX FQ320 I test drove.

If I had bought a WR1 from the start then I'm pretty certain it would have commanded a better resale value than the STi PPP I sold. With this in mind I did think of buying a MY06 Spec C Type RA as I knew it would have a better residual value than the ordinary Spec C. What with the exclusively of a model with only 350 worldwide and with the useful extras it appeared the safer bet. However Iain Litchfield knew of my intentions to modify it to a Type 20 and he sensibly said I'd be junking all the bits that made the RA special and in other words I'd be wasting an extra £2k.

From what I've seen, the WR1 has held onto it's value better than the UK equivalent STi PPP. The JDM STi's inc the Spec C's do have a stronger residual value, look at a MY03 model and see what I mean.

The WR1 was a celebration of Mr Solberg winning the WRC, so if he can beat Loeb, there may well be another WR1 variation. Unfortunately the RB320 celebrates the life of Richard Burns and as such there will probably never be another model bearing his initials. This must count for something. As much as I love my JDM, there will be no doubt umpteen new models in the future, but with buying a RB320, you are buying something with a special bit of history that will live on in the hearts of Richard's fans for years to come.

In conclusion, sign on the dotted line and order yourself a RB320 before they're all gone.

Merry Xmas.
Old 25 December 2006, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Robocop
This is proving an interesting thread and is no doubt a dilemma that a few people will be going though.

The JDM models represent perhaps the more 'hardcore' versions and appeal to the more select buyer. These people seek generally what may be considered as the most technologically advanced versions available off the production line, but are willing to sacrifice perhaps some of the peace of mind 'extras' that come with buying a new UK model from a franchised dealer.

My first Impreza was a MY04 STi which I bought from a UK main dealer. At that time, the WR1 was still available to buy, indeed the dealer had one for sale in their showroom. At the time I thought it was overpriced, but I was a Scooby novice at the time (not that I class myself as an expert now). I then proceeded to buy the PPP kit, Prodrive spring kit and a set of PFF7 alloys. By this time, I 'd spent more than the cost of a WR1, I didn't have the extra power, DCCD and I didn't have a car with a limited production of 500 units.

However, it didn't take long to realise that I wished I had bought a JDM version. For my personal circumstances the 'pros' outweighed the 'cons'.

The specification of the MY06 Spec C (no pun intended) sold me the car. I wasn't overly worried that it was perceived as a bit more 'raw' compared to even the standard JDM STi, in fact it was a darn site quieter than the UK supplied Evo IX FQ320 I test drove.

If I had bought a WR1 from the start then I'm pretty certain it would have commanded a better resale value than the STi PPP I sold. With this in mind I did think of buying a MY06 Spec C Type RA as I knew it would have a better residual value than the ordinary Spec C. What with the exclusively of a model with only 350 worldwide and with the useful extras it appeared the safer bet. However Iain Litchfield knew of my intentions to modify it to a Type 20 and he sensibly said I'd be junking all the bits that made the RA special and in other words I'd be wasting an extra £2k.

From what I've seen, the WR1 has held onto it's value better than the UK equivalent STi PPP. The JDM STi's inc the Spec C's do have a stronger residual value, look at a MY03 model and see what I mean.

The WR1 was a celebration of Mr Solberg winning the WRC, so if he can beat Loeb, there may well be another WR1 variation. Unfortunately the RB320 celebrates the life of Richard Burns and as such there will probably never be another model bearing his initials. This must count for something. As much as I love my JDM, there will be no doubt umpteen new models in the future, but with buying a RB320, you are buying something with a special bit of history that will live on in the hearts of Richard's fans for years to come.

In conclusion, sign on the dotted line and order yourself a RB320 before they're all gone.

Merry Xmas.
Beautiful, well said
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Originally Posted by Robocop
This is proving an interesting thread and is no doubt a dilemma that a few people will be going though.

The JDM models represent perhaps the more 'hardcore' versions and appeal to the more select buyer. These people seek generally what may be considered as the most technologically advanced versions available off the production line, but are willing to sacrifice perhaps some of the peace of mind 'extras' that come with buying a new UK model from a franchised dealer.

My first Impreza was a MY04 STi which I bought from a UK main dealer. At that time, the WR1 was still available to buy, indeed the dealer had one for sale in their showroom. At the time I thought it was overpriced, but I was a Scooby novice at the time (not that I class myself as an expert now). I then proceeded to buy the PPP kit, Prodrive spring kit and a set of PFF7 alloys. By this time, I 'd spent more than the cost of a WR1, I didn't have the extra power, DCCD and I didn't have a car with a limited production of 500 units.

However, it didn't take long to realise that I wished I had bought a JDM version. For my personal circumstances the 'pros' outweighed the 'cons'.

The specification of the MY06 Spec C (no pun intended) sold me the car. I wasn't overly worried that it was perceived as a bit more 'raw' compared to even the standard JDM STi, in fact it was a darn site quieter than the UK supplied Evo IX FQ320 I test drove.

If I had bought a WR1 from the start then I'm pretty certain it would have commanded a better resale value than the STi PPP I sold. With this in mind I did think of buying a MY06 Spec C Type RA as I knew it would have a better residual value than the ordinary Spec C. What with the exclusively of a model with only 350 worldwide and with the useful extras it appeared the safer bet. However Iain Litchfield knew of my intentions to modify it to a Type 20 and he sensibly said I'd be junking all the bits that made the RA special and in other words I'd be wasting an extra £2k.

From what I've seen, the WR1 has held onto it's value better than the UK equivalent STi PPP. The JDM STi's inc the Spec C's do have a stronger residual value, look at a MY03 model and see what I mean.

The WR1 was a celebration of Mr Solberg winning the WRC, so if he can beat Loeb, there may well be another WR1 variation. Unfortunately the RB320 celebrates the life of Richard Burns and as such there will probably never be another model bearing his initials. This must count for something. As much as I love my JDM, there will be no doubt umpteen new models in the future, but with buying a RB320, you are buying something with a special bit of history that will live on in the hearts of Richard's fans for years to come.

In conclusion, sign on the dotted line and order yourself a RB320 before they're all gone.

Merry Xmas.

So if you had the choice of buying a spec c or an rb320 next week you would buy an rb320 because it commemerates richards burns?
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think robocop`s post,as wrapped this thread up,top post chap.
merry xmas
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Wasn't the P1 supposed to be a limited run ... then they built some more didn't they?

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I thought the p1 was always a 1000 run No? Or was it a 500 that then got doubled?
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i heard subaru couldnt sell the p1? is that true?
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They sold the first 500 easy, then struggled on the second batch.. that's why some of them have Alcon brakes and upgrades, to help shift them.
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Originally Posted by PCM
So if you had the choice of buying a spec c or an rb320 next week you would buy an rb320 because it commemerates richards burns?

Despite you saying a UK cars warranty is worth nowt, your wrong. So far im on my 5th engine in my WRX and its not even 19 month old yet. Granted some of the problems were caused by the dealer, but the origional one causing the engine to let go in the first place wasnt. a fault from new it would appear. And are you telling me that your warranty will cover this, you will honour the cost of a new RA engine being fitted and supplied???


apologies if you genuinly will mate, but my gutt feeling is that i would end up in a great legal battle with you, or who ever supplied me a jap spec car.


many people will also share my fear of GREY IMPORTS, hence the name im guessing, its niether black nor white, its a grey area. Manufactures warranty holds alot of water for most people who are considering purchasing a NEW subaru


what you also have to bear in mind, is that many people who buy new scoobs, are not enthusiasts, they merely want the road going rally car on there drive and that it, no meets, no internet sites and so on. These people wont entertain the thought of a new 30k car with out a manufactures warranty
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Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
Despite you saying a UK cars warranty is worth nowt, your wrong. So far im on my 5th engine in my WRX and its not even 19 month old yet. Granted some of the problems were caused by the dealer, but the origional one causing the engine to let go in the first place wasnt. a fault from new it would appear. And are you telling me that your warranty will cover this, you will honour the cost of a new RA engine being fitted and supplied???


apologies if you genuinly will mate, but my gutt feeling is that i would end up in a great legal battle with you, or who ever supplied me a jap spec car.


many people will also share my fear of GREY IMPORTS, hence the name im guessing, its niether black nor white, its a grey area. Manufactures warranty holds alot of water for most people who are considering purchasing a NEW subaru


what you also have to bear in mind, is that many people who buy new scoobs, are not enthusiasts, they merely want the road going rally car on there drive and that it, no meets, no internet sites and so on. These people wont entertain the thought of a new 30k car with out a manufactures warranty
The RA comes with a warranty mate and if it were to go pop i would be happy to replace the engine,as long as it was looked after and there was no driver error.Any decent dealership would do that to uphold his reputation and customer relations.

Sorry to hear about your engine but again you prove my point the uk engine are very poor
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Originally Posted by PCM
The RA comes with a warranty mate and if it were to go pop i would be happy to replace the engine,as long as it was looked after and there was no driver error.Any decent dealership would do that to uphold his reputation and customer relations.

Sorry to hear about your engine but again you prove my point the uk engine are very poor
thats the point though mate. You would replace it at your discretion, where as the dealer has to replace mine regardless.

i use mine hard, very hard in fact, but its not abused, its serviced regular, looked after and given nothing but the best in care, (apart from cleaning).


you may see this as abuse, and im sorry, but im not prepared to take that rick on 30K's worth of car.

I paid 22K for mine with the PPP one, i could have got a slightly older STI for the same money, but choose not to as the warranty is a mojor issue, although not as big as i expected as it turns out. All im saying is that this will be the same for many.

Granted, the RA engine may have never let go in the first place, its a bit chicken and the egg though you have to addmit. The consumer is taking all the risks at the end of the day



there is no wrong and no right answer to this i would suggest, its all about personal circumstances
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Originally Posted by pjhsid
They sold the first 500 easy, then struggled on the second batch.. that's why some of them have Alcon brakes and upgrades, to help shift them.
thanks mate
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Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
thats the point though mate. You would replace it at your discretion, where as the dealer has to replace mine regardless.

i use mine hard, very hard in fact, but its not abused, its serviced regular, looked after and given nothing but the best in care, (apart from cleaning).


you may see this as abuse, and im sorry, but im not prepared to take that rick on 30K's worth of car.

I paid 22K for mine with the PPP one, i could have got a slightly older STI for the same money, but choose not to as the warranty is a mojor issue, although not as big as i expected as it turns out. All im saying is that this will be the same for many.

Granted, the RA engine may have never let go in the first place, its a bit chicken and the egg though you have to addmit. The consumer is taking all the risks at the end of the day



there is no wrong and no right answer to this i would suggest, its all about personal circumstances
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Just make sure you buy your next scoob of me i am sure you wont have any problems

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Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
Despite you saying a UK cars warranty is worth nowt, your wrong. So far im on my 5th engine in my WRX and its not even 19 month old yet.
hang on a bit i had a 93 wrx did 50k +in it to spain and back drag racin at santa pod track days
P1 did 60k also went to spain in her to see the WRC street racin track days never a miss fire sound as a pound all the time
and now i have got a 05 sti 360bhp+ 25k so far and all is as the day she was made so what the hell are you doing m8
to kill all the engines ??????????????????????????????????????????
It cant be all the dealer ???????

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Originally Posted by Robocop
This is proving an interesting thread and is no doubt a dilemma that a few people will be going though.

The JDM models represent perhaps the more 'hardcore' versions and appeal to the more select buyer. These people seek generally what may be considered as the most technologically advanced versions available off the production line, but are willing to sacrifice perhaps some of the peace of mind 'extras' that come with buying a new UK model from a franchised dealer.

My first Impreza was a MY04 STi which I bought from a UK main dealer. At that time, the WR1 was still available to buy, indeed the dealer had one for sale in their showroom. At the time I thought it was overpriced, but I was a Scooby novice at the time (not that I class myself as an expert now). I then proceeded to buy the PPP kit, Prodrive spring kit and a set of PFF7 alloys. By this time, I 'd spent more than the cost of a WR1, I didn't have the extra power, DCCD and I didn't have a car with a limited production of 500 units.

However, it didn't take long to realise that I wished I had bought a JDM version. For my personal circumstances the 'pros' outweighed the 'cons'.

The specification of the MY06 Spec C (no pun intended) sold me the car. I wasn't overly worried that it was perceived as a bit more 'raw' compared to even the standard JDM STi, in fact it was a darn site quieter than the UK supplied Evo IX FQ320 I test drove.

If I had bought a WR1 from the start then I'm pretty certain it would have commanded a better resale value than the STi PPP I sold. With this in mind I did think of buying a MY06 Spec C Type RA as I knew it would have a better residual value than the ordinary Spec C. What with the exclusively of a model with only 350 worldwide and with the useful extras it appeared the safer bet. However Iain Litchfield knew of my intentions to modify it to a Type 20 and he sensibly said I'd be junking all the bits that made the RA special and in other words I'd be wasting an extra £2k.

From what I've seen, the WR1 has held onto it's value better than the UK equivalent STi PPP. The JDM STi's inc the Spec C's do have a stronger residual value, look at a MY03 model and see what I mean.

The WR1 was a celebration of Mr Solberg winning the WRC, so if he can beat Loeb, there may well be another WR1 variation. Unfortunately the RB320 celebrates the life of Richard Burns and as such there will probably never be another model bearing his initials. This must count for something. As much as I love my JDM, there will be no doubt umpteen new models in the future, but with buying a RB320, you are buying something with a special bit of history that will live on in the hearts of Richard's fans for years to come.

In conclusion, sign on the dotted line and order yourself a RB320 before they're all gone.

Merry Xmas.
Summed up nicely. That's one of the main reasons why I took the plunge. For me I don't want to buy an import (personal choice) so an RB320 was the right option at the right time.

I also don't underestimate the value of speccing a car how I want it and for me that's what brings in the depreciation as soon as you drive it off the forecourt. If you want to buy a car with a few thousand miles on the clock then you give that up but save thousands off the original price. The spec C's look very nice but be fair and compare the price of one with 0 miles on the clock versus an RB.
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i have lost over 10k in 1 year + the mods to make it the car i wanted in the first place the look was there but the car's feel and power was not you cant tell this on a test drive for 1/2 hr
you can keep all new cars from now on save your money !!!
get a 1 or 2 year old car and mod then you it will save you a lot of time and money

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Come on then Juggers the gauntlet is down ... how much for a brand new Spec C?!!

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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Come on then Juggers the gauntlet is down ... how much for a brand new Spec C?!!

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£27495 but for you there is special discount

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I can see myself buying cars from you for many years

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