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Old 29 December 2006, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bone
Got to laugh on the Wr1 and Evo top gear youtube video when they put them around the track, i think Hammond says something along the lines of "errr look at that, thats just awful" as the Impreza goes well offline.

Was barely faster than the Sti and still slower than the old Evo let alone the new one, in the end. They were giggling at it.

Best one was when the evo FQ400 was beaten by a family saloon

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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Best one was when the evo FQ400 was beaten by a family saloon

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Are you refering to the turbo lag example due to its bigger turbo? If so who would drive their car in that high a gear at such low revs, its was just a show point. The Evo 400 keeps up with a Lambo on the track and forced it into a mistake and that was JC against a pro driver, what Scooby does that?

i'll tell you, NONE!


face it Burnhead, Scooby is second best, all you comment on is mods or jap imports. Even they can't compare to teh 400. DREAM, DREAM Dream Oh Dream.....
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Originally Posted by Bone
Are you refering to the turbo lag example due to its bigger turbo? If so who would drive their car in that high a gear at such low revs, its was just a show point. The Evo 400 keeps up with a Lambo on the track and forced it into a mistake and that was JC against a pro driver, what Scooby does that?

i'll tell you, NONE!


face it Burnhead, Scooby is second best, all you comment on is mods or jap imports. Even they can't compare to teh 400. DREAM, DREAM Dream Oh Dream.....

Trite.
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Don't ya just know whats coming now
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Originally Posted by gerryirl
Don't ya just know whats coming now
Please no! Cannot take it anymore!
Old 29 December 2006, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Bone
Are you refering to the turbo lag example due to its bigger turbo? If so who would drive their car in that high a gear at such low revs, its was just a show point. The Evo 400 keeps up with a Lambo on the track and forced it into a mistake and that was JC against a pro driver, what Scooby does that?

i'll tell you, NONE!


face it Burnhead, Scooby is second best, all you comment on is mods or jap imports. Even they can't compare to teh 400. DREAM, DREAM Dream Oh Dream.....
Bone, you have made yourself look a real boner by just contradicting yourself
Now STFU and go troll somewhere else

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Old 29 December 2006, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bone
Are you refering to the turbo lag example due to its bigger turbo? If so who would drive their car in that high a gear at such low revs, its was just a show point. The Evo 400 keeps up with a Lambo on the track and forced it into a mistake and that was JC against a pro driver, what Scooby does that?

i'll tell you, NONE!


face it Burnhead, Scooby is second best, all you comment on is mods or jap imports. Even they can't compare to teh 400. DREAM, DREAM Dream Oh Dream.....
I drive mine in high gears at low speed and it flies along, just shows what a poorly thought out turbo set up the 400 has
Old 29 December 2006, 10:35 PM
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One of mates owns a tweaked EVO VI and we've had many bouts. At the moment I'm in the lead in terms of overall package (thanks to recent remap at Powerstation), but I wouldn't call his car sh1te. When he fits a 2.3l forged stroker kit and remaps the HKS 3037S turbo at 1.6 or may be 1.8 BAR, he'll have a 450 bhp monster, but he won't call mine sh1te.

Why can't everyone agree that Evo's and Scoobies are both high performance cars that are great value for money when it comes to launching you from 0-60 or 0-100, coupled with not too shabby handling out of the box?

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Old 29 December 2006, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bone
Are you refering to the turbo lag example due to its bigger turbo? If so who would drive their car in that high a gear at such low revs, its was just a show point. The Evo 400 keeps up with a Lambo on the track and forced it into a mistake and that was JC against a pro driver, what Scooby does that?

i'll tell you, NONE!


face it Burnhead, Scooby is second best, all you comment on is mods or jap imports. Even they can't compare to teh 400. DREAM, DREAM Dream Oh Dream.....

Who cares? I couldn't care less if a scooby or evo could keep up with a Lambo round a track, big deal. At the end of the day, what car would you want to go home in. Let me give you a clue, it won't be the jap car!
Old 30 December 2006, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by scubaladdie
Don't know where people get the idea the AYC on the Evo is twitchy,mine sticks to the road like nothing, wet or dry... Didn't think it was possible for something to corner that fast until I had a test-drive (stock suspension), although I'd say it is a bit hard for some of the bumpier roads
From driving several of them fast round corners and over bumpy B-Roads. Of course comparing it to my Subaru but if comparing it to say a standard car then it sticks to the road.

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Old 30 December 2006, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Anders_WR1
One of mates owns a tweaked EVO VI and we've had many bouts. At the moment I'm in the lead in terms of overall package (thanks to recent remap at Powerstation), but I wouldn't call his car sh1te. When he fits a 2.3l forged stroker kit and remaps the HKS 3037S turbo at 1.6 or may be 1.8 BAR, he'll have a 450 bhp monster, but he won't call mine sh1te.

Why can't everyone agree that Evo's and Scoobies are both high performance cars that are great value for money when it comes to launching you from 0-60 or 0-100, coupled with not too shabby handling out of the box?

Anders
Anders I think if you read through the threads most of us are praising both cars and pound for pound they are equal or the IMpreza is better (pound for pound) However there is one person who loves his Evo and keeps coming back with no reasonable arguments who just likes to flame anyone who challenges him, doesn't respond reasonable to the question that he asks and then we answer. Why he is not staying in the MLR forum God only knows.

Most on here are just getting into the argument for the fun of it (well I am) we all know hat they are same cars basically. Some people mention no Mods should be spoken about but that obviously means they don't realise all the FQ series are modified So if you mention an Evo FQ you are talking of a modified Car from standard lol
Old 30 December 2006, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bone
what Scooby does that?

i'll tell you, NONE!


:
Err, Type 25.
Old 30 December 2006, 04:49 PM
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Reano, yes all FQ's are modified over GSR spec but they are like that from the showroom

Its like saying an STi is a modified WRX!

But I think you know that

MB
Old 30 December 2006, 05:23 PM
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I'd consider getting an evo next or a scoob sti - i got a good look at one earlier as it was stuck to my bumper down a dual carriageway, i even pulled over to let him past but he stayed where he was, a mozzie would have had difficulty flying through the gap!! - some nutty driver egging me on no doubt!
Old 30 December 2006, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MrRA
Err, Type 25.
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Old 30 December 2006, 05:38 PM
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I've never understood why peeps ask about the difference in two completely different cars? Comparing an Evo with a Scooby is like comparing an M3 with a Cosworth!! The Evo is completely different to a Scooby! I originally was gona get an Evo, but after my horrendous insurance quote, and a chat with a Jap importer I decided on the Scooby. The Scooby, I think, is a more subtle "rally" type car, that can be used every day but still let rip on the track at the weekend. The Evo is much more of a harder, and more raw drive, so of course the Evo will win hands down!!
IMHO you should test drive both, and then work out which feels more comfortable for you as the driver! I feel so "connected" to my Scooby, as weird as it sounds! More so than any other car I've owned or driven! I never actually took an Evo for a test drive, but I do wonder if it would make me feel the same!!?
Old 30 December 2006, 05:52 PM
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Default My Impreza V my friends Evo 8

Hi. I was just reading some of the threads and I thought some of you may find the following interesting:-
I own a P1 (308/1000) and a good friend of mine purchased a 330hp Evo 8 with 15K on the clock. He threw me the keys and off we went. Having never driven an EVO before I was looking forward to comparing it to mine. Oh dear, what a BIG disappointment. Ok, my P1 is not standard, its currently running at 348hp f/m/ intercooler - HKS induction - DeCat s/steel exhaust - all new Prodrive 330mm brakes etc etc but it was just a different league. I did not want to upset my friend as he had only just got the EVO so I decided the best thing to do was to let him drive my car. He did, and soon realised the difference between the two
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Power delivery is totally different though. P1 gives all its power in one big go, real shove in the back, where the EVO is linear so you dont feel it.

I think you might be surprised if you put them side by side. Nowt in it I would think.

I had a bit of a race with Davey P the other day, him in his 340 ish bhp P1, and me in 360 ish bhp Evo 8. Nothing in it - I wasnt gaining, and he wasnt getting away.

People need to realise that you need a LOT more bhp than another car to give it a real beating...

MB
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Your comment Mark, on the EVO being smoother on accelaration is a remark I have read and heard many times. I agree, it would be interesting having a side by side with my friends EVO, and we are in the near future. I will write with the details of the event.
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Originally Posted by SkullFudge
I own a P1 (308/1000)
1000 ft lb of torque ! Yikes !!
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That would be interesting Mr Fudge :thumbup:

I do prefer the STi power delivery if im honest.

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Originally Posted by Dark Blue Mark
Power delivery is totally different though. P1 gives all its power in one big go, real shove in the back, where the EVO is linear so you dont feel it.

I think you might be surprised if you put them side by side. Nowt in it I would think.

I had a bit of a race with Davey P the other day, him in his 340 ish bhp P1, and me in 360 ish bhp Evo 8. Nothing in it - I wasnt gaining, and he wasnt getting away.

People need to realise that you need a LOT more bhp than another car to give it a real beating...

MB
I was quite surprised at this TBH. I thought the Evo would have been quicker. Good job we didn't go round any bends as I think the Evo would wave bye bye.
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is the linear power delivery more a feature of the much later evo's? even when my 6 was standard it had a much more ferocious "kidney punch" than the P1 I test drove and the STi3 I briefly owned
Old 30 December 2006, 06:22 PM
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Not with the tyres I had on Davey

All sorted now and grips like foook. Welcome for a go in it sometime.

Not sure on the older versions Scub. The 7 8 and 9 really like to rev.

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Originally Posted by SkullFudge
Your comment Mark, on the EVO being smoother on accelaration is a remark I have read and heard many times. I agree, it would be interesting having a side by side with my friends EVO, and we are in the near future. I will write with the details of the event.
Pretty much the same with the latest twin scroll (2003 models onwards) cars, their power delivery is very linear, amazingly they produce 80% of their torque at 2500 rpm, they pull from 1500rpm (if not slightly lower) and keep on going

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I don't stand a chance now then, as mine is in need of some new tyres too

Defiantly Mark, you will have to take me for a spin sometime.
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YouTube - Lancer Evo 9 MR battle
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Originally Posted by EmEm
I've never understood why peeps ask about the difference in two completely different cars? Comparing an Evo with a Scooby is like comparing an M3 with a Cosworth!! The Evo is completely different to a Scooby! I originally was gona get an Evo, but after my horrendous insurance quote, and a chat with a Jap importer I decided on the Scooby. The Scooby, I think, is a more subtle "rally" type car, that can be used every day but still let rip on the track at the weekend. The Evo is much more of a harder, and more raw drive, so of course the Evo will win hands down!!
IMHO you should test drive both, and then work out which feels more comfortable for you as the driver! I feel so "connected" to my Scooby, as weird as it sounds! More so than any other car I've owned or driven! I never actually took an Evo for a test drive, but I do wonder if it would make me feel the same!!?
Just need to ask a question. Are you saying you haven't driven an Evo but then you are commenting on how they both drive?
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I wondered that. There is a lot of it in this thread!

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i was thinking the same . i like to read peoples opinions on this thread knowing
they have owned both cars like myself. if not you might aswell put your pants over your mouth.


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