The irony of this whole conversation is that while I have the ability to play backups the only game I really ever play is my original PG3!

But never the less it is fun to shout at you guys up their on your moral high grounds (hope can hear me ok up there)!

 

What a Pikey, if you can't afford something or don't agree with the price then don't have it, it's that simple, do something else.

I'd like to drink four pints of quality beer down the local every night, but moan about the price, do I rob a keg from around the back, of course not.

Carry on playing your "back ups" hopefully MS will brick your Xbox for Christmas.

 

I did have my xbox chiped, But this was due to being stung so many times with paying £40 for a really **** game,
But on the other side if played a "back up" game and i enjoyed it i would then go and buy a new proper copy of the game, So they were still geting there money's worth out of me. I was never going to buy every game ever made so it gave me the chance of trying out diffrent types of games i would'nt normaly go for and i found some i really liked. Ans so went and bought them.
I havent felt the need to flash my 360 as so far the games have been great or not my type of thing.
But thats not to say i wont when they start chucking the games out and the shelves fill with crap.
The last thing i want is for any console to go down the same road as the amiga did, And we lose out on some great games.

 

If i had Played between 30 - 50 quid for Over G Fighters and then put it on my 360 i woulda shot myself, and the retailer that sold it, wot a crock of ****!!! Quake is another **** up, a direct port, and so much slowdown i cuda make a cuppa and come back to the fight!!!. At least Table Tennis was priced ok coz they realised it wasnt much of a game.

PG3 i bought and it wicked , Ghost Recon AW is pretty awesome also.

My 360 is flashed, did it myself and it was worth it, and it still doesnt stop me buying the odd original if it is a quality title, but to the guy who said that all the 360 titles r quality at the moment, u r sadly mistaking, there are loads of ports etc that do not do the console justice!!!!.

Gears Of War However was worth every penny i paid for it ! awesome!

In my opinion there are on a handful of good games at moment! and if i had paid 30 - 50 quid a go i woulda been very upset!

As for chipping, it one comes out i will do that also, if it means i can run such applications like XBMC and add bigger Hard Drives etc, coz thats another gripe at moment £70 for a 20 gig drive, that the 360 steals 7 gig from straight away leaving u with 13 gig to play wiv!! wot a rip off!!! , and when downloading Media tv etc content is out where u gunna store it? . we will be forced to buy another 20 gig drive at 70 quid!

 

Hear hear

 

MS can't brick the console What they can do is ban it from Live. If they do then so be it. If I feel that the games available justify the 360 then I will buy another one. Simple

 

I can say without a word of a lie that I have never played a backup on my chipped Xbox

It's all about media centre for me and not ripping off games. I will admit to dowloading tv shows to watch but I have to go to hell for something.

I earn enough to play all the games I want. The problem today is peolpe like you think it's a God given right to own all this stuff well news flash is you can't afford it stick it on another credit card

 

Of course you didn't

 

And have one of you realised that the hackin scene etc, its usually the console manufacturers that give the information away, to make stuff hackable, because it then puts consoles in the household, which is what it is all about to them at the moment!, wait till PS 3 that will take no time till its done, because they r about getting a BlueRay drive into every household.

They give away this info, and then when they decide they r ready they combat the piracy!

 

I work hard for what I have and have the right to enjoy it any way I want!

I wonder how many people posting on this thread chastising those that choose to modify their 360's have copied CD's, recordings on video and even recordings on audio cassettes. I'd be willing to bet pretty much all of you have or have had at some point.

 

don't judge us all by your low standards

 

to be honest I'm bored of this now,

if you feel the need to buy a console then modify it to play copied games please don't moan about the lack of support for the console in years to come.

you know it's wrong but I get the feeling even though you can get games new for under 30 you still won't. Copying games makes you feel like you beat the system ...... well done buddy.

Hope your 360 Bricks

 

I have and mainly play original games as already said!

 

You won't buy second hand, but you'll happily buy a copy



I had my original Xbox chipped, it was great 300gb with around a 100 games loaded on. Now it's worthless, i just gave it to a mate.

I've got the 360 and i'm happy with it, yeah there are some shocking games but good ones as well. I have no intention of flashing/chipping mine, with the problems of consoles failing i'd rather not run the risk, and i really don't feel the need.


And i'm sorry but people who say they'd buy games if they were £20, would you ****, you'd keep paying £5 and if you say different your lying, fact.

 

Buying second hand and pirating a game are one and the same as far as Software companies are concerned. They don't see a penny from either. The selling of second hand games through Game, CEX, Gamestation et al is a completley parasitic exercise - They get a return for no work whatsoever, and in fact take money away from pub/devs due to people buying the second hand game rather than the brand new one.

Of course, the flip side is that people get to be able to play games they may not ordinarily be inclined to purchase at full price.

I am just saying that buying second hand is not really a "better" alternative to piracy, because in terms of financial implications to the devloper, it is one and the same thing.

With regards to the price of games justifying software theft, that is a nonsenical argument. They cost what they cost. I quite fancy an F430 ferrari, If I got caught stealing one and in court I said "I really wanted one but I couldn't afford it, thereofore I felt jusitfied in stealing it", I am pretty sure my feet would not touch the ground on the way to prison.

 

I don't buy copied games.

 

Anyone have any thoughts on my earlier post?

You all seem to have conveniently ignored it

 

I suspect that most people wouldn't be stupid enough to confess anything on a public bulletin board. Some people on the other hand are natural born idiots.

 

If you really do fancy an F430 perhaps you could afford to buy one 2nd hand in a few years time.... ooops, oh no, you wouldn't do that - because in your book that's tantamount to stealing it as no revenue will go to Ferrari if you do....oh well.

So - Buying computer/console software 2nd hand is completely different to buying a 2nd hand car?? - Discuss...

(Actually, in much the same way as the 2nd hand car market works - 2nd hand games are actually a VERY GOOD thing for the games industry. When little Johnny finishes his latest game that he's saved up his £39.95 for he can sell it, for £20 or whatever, and that helps to fund a NEW game significantly quicker than if he'd had to save up from scratch again.... Think about it... analogous to 2nd hand cars, as I said.)

 

Fair point.

That said though read my posts.

There's nothing illegal about changing firmware on a DVD drive.

 

tbh, the view from up here, on the moral high ground is very good

I can't confirm nor deny my participation when it comes to utilising "backups", however, there is a fraternity who would possibly look at the backups with a view to testing the product prior to purchasing the original item.

Dan

 

Have you people never heard of reviews or game demos? Almost every game released on the 360 so far has had a demo on xbox live, been on a magazine coverdisc, or at the very least, had tonnes of reviews all over the internet. Using the "I paid £40 for a naff game" is not a valid excuse for piracy.

 

Good point it reminds me of something on the news last year, poss year before, that Game makers were going hell bent on stopping the shops offering this service, of at least getting a % of the Re-sale price.

Not 100% sure but i'm pretty sure Game would give you about £20 for a new game release that you may have brought and completed in a week, then will happily mark it up to £40/45. They're worst then car dealers

 

360 games retail for $300 (£20) in Hong Kong and we're paying £50 for them

I'll be keeping any eye on developments for chips but will only do so when its safe.

Call me/us a pikey all you like as the guys that pay £50 for a game keeps the new games coming for us pikies

 

Thanks for play-asia got anymore of these websites?

You can PM me if you dont want to post them here

 

play-asia is the only one I use now. The only link I use is the Multi region list. All of the games I've bought take around a week to get here, they are under the import tax limit and everything is in English.

 

Blimey you can pre-order a long way ahead on there...

Assassin's Creed Collectors Box Set (incl. 12" Figure)
UBI Soft
Compatible with Xbox360™
Asia, No Region Protection / Action Adventure
Release date: Sep, 2007

 

What about the supposed classics range that is being released soon with a retail price of around £20.

You may have to wait a bit longer than some people for top games but atleast you are getting the originals.

 

where not called rip off britain for nothing.

 

I've seen PDZ, that was it though.