My girlfriends thinks this is short for lazy cashew nuts

 

Evening James.

 

Really, she did.

Evening

 

Not sure what you're asking there as I don't have customers but I could go to half a dozen chavy carwashes but I choose to drive for half an hour through a crappy one way system and pay 17 quid for a job that's done really well.
I know many others feel the same so I wouldn't let small minded bigots put me off hiring the best staff I could find.

 

Which one of the banks/insurance companies with record profits are you talking about?

 

As some on here may know, my eldest lad was made redundant from his welding "apprenticeship" last year, two and a half years into a four year course.

The company who employed him had, prior to making him and 5 other trainees redundant, taken on 6 fully trained Polish workers.

What a coincidence............NOT.

So much for the immigrants doing the jobs no-one else wants.
So much for those who mock those people who are saying, "they'll take our jobs"

My lad was lucky: he was taken on again as one of the two best trainees they had, along with the other "best trainee", after 12 weeks on the dole. Two of the other four have had to change their course to do something else other than welding, as they couldn't find another employer to take them on. One has left the area.

THIS IS NOT THE SOUTH. There just aren't jobs up here

And as for the Poles?

After nearly a year, 5 of the 6 still can't speak any English, they can't read specs for the things they are building, and have to be given a working drawing instead, and when they need owt, they have to find a scrap of paper withy what they want written on it, and hold it up. Their work is NOT as good as homegrown welders, but hey...................they're cheap

And their presence here fulfils TBLiar's dream of being a humanitarian.

Alcazar

 

I don't have a problem with polish workers. Or any other nations workers doing a job that, like said above, the lazy work shy benefit taking British scumbag won't do.

The only problem I do have is the lazy work shy foreign immigrant coming to our shore, and taking benefits just cos we are a soft touch.

The way things should work is quite simple. Foreign workers register with the British consulate in their country, stating what work they are qualified/able to do. British companies could then say they need X number of workers to do the job that can't be filled by the lazy British dole-woller.
Those workers are then free to come to Britain, and start a job. They would then be legally here, and paying Tax which stays in Britain.
This would then fill in any hole in the jobs market while still contributing to the national treasury.

Stop all the immigrants who just want a free house with free money every other week.

Edit : There should also be a cap on how many legitiment workers can come to our shores to work.
Given the choice though, I'd rather all jobs were taken up by British workers.

Edit : The Government paying Benefit to Polish workers families back in Poland is taking the p1ss though They need to stop that now.

 

Talking about lazy, who are the lazy buggers who take their cars to a carwash !

Bucket, sponge, ten minutes job done.

I bet these are the same people that are in massive debt, clean your own car for free and get a bit of exercise.

17 quid to get your car washed, jesus, no matter how much money I had I would do it myself.

Fair Play to Mickey, long may he make a living from the lazy !

Edited to say, ok for the disabled and the elderely.

 

Its only £3.50 to get my car hand washed and hoovered up here, by a local guy in a mobile van. Why would i want to wash it in freezing cold temps and get brakedust all over my cleaning stuff ?

 

our cheapest basic wash and dry is £1.50

for that amount its not even worth getting the bucket and sponge out

£17 i hope that is part of a "mini valet"

 

It is hardly surprising that they find employment easily when they are hard working and take a pride in their job.

Les

 

Its not as black and white as some people make out.

Most immigrants from the Czech republic and Poland are hard working,of course they are. If they were lazy they wouldnt bother leaving their own country. They come here because in a Polish supermarket you earn a quarter of what you earn in Tesco's and (from what most of the ones i meet say) you get treated a lot better. Here you are allowed regular breaks and get treated with respect. Secondly they are coming in at the bottom of the market so you have a situation where the best Polish workers are competing against the worst UK workers. Of course it makes us look bad. Thirdly a lot of them i know make no effort to integrate,they are only here for the money and want to go home as soon as they can. We get a load of students from Eastern Europe but they have no intention of staying.

 

Well I just had a very crap carwash at the Oracle in Reading. They even managed to pull my windscreen wiper off somehow! £6.95

 

I don't agree with allowing unlimited amounts of Poles into the UK but I must say that the Poles I have met or been served by have been nothing other than efficient and courteous.

Chip

 

My local hand wash is almost exclusively Polish staffed. They've been there for a couple years, built a decent business by not over charging and doing a good job. I've seen the same faces there each time. I couldn't praise them enough and good luck to them. I've no problem if people are prepared to come here and contribute in a positive way. We should be careful not to continue to critiscise so quickly. We live in a free market economy where it is supply and demand.

If ,as SM says, he can't get good local people, why shouldn't he get an immigrant worker? We do a lot of work for Aviva (Norwich Union) and I know for a fact that their next big office in Europe will be in Poland. The workforce is cheaper than the UK and, more importantly to them, vastly better educated (the same goes for many of the Eastern European countries).

We would do well to remember that we are not owed a living just because we are English. Also bear in mind that many of the migrant workers don't come here on a permanent basis. A few years work over in the UK is often enough for them to earn suffifcient money to buy property back home etc. They are very enterprising people and not just free loading off this country (far from it). There's a big difference between many of the Poles (who are also one of our oldest allies in Europe and been good friends to this country for many years) and others coming here just to sit on their backsides claiming benefits.

 

I bet the French say the same about the British folks buying up their properties for holiday homes and driving up their house prices..... but that's the joy of the European Union.

 

I understand your point but accept that your experiences are in a minority and that in general Polish are a massive benefit to the UK.

 

Luan,
In what way are they a benefit to the UK?

A factory near me where my bro in law works now employs about 30 eastern europeans. Guess how many local workers were laid off shortly before these 30 were taken on.

Very few of these can speak English yet.

Chip

 

The local car wash near my brothers house is staffed by the polish workers, but they have two girls working there all the time, and they are allways wearing tight little red cheeky shorts FFS

For gods sake, what is this world coming to? only two there should be more girls

 

Luan can make more money if he can pay his staff less.

Some of that money he makes then goes to Tony Blair so he can pay the locals unemployment benefit.

Everybody's a winner.

Apparently.

 

For my 17 quid, I get wash, polish, wheels spotless, tyres dressed, interior spotless, boot the same, glass polished, rubbish thrown out, vent and crevices done properly with a paintbrush. I reckon for me to do the same standard would take about 3 hours, as I value my spare time at about 50/hour (so if I can pay someone to do any job at less than that I will) it's a pretty good deal for me.
Add to that the underground parking with no sockets, carting buckets of water through the building and using a crap cordless dustbuster it's a no brainer.
As ChrisL say - supply and demand.
And a willing worker is a hundred times better than an unwilling one.

 

that is cheap TBH

we can offer a mini valet from £15 (depending on size of vehicle) but the bodywork is not polished or waxed, that is an extra £10

when you say the inside it spotless, you you really mean spotless, or just tidied up?

 

We have not had overtime for over 12 months since the polish worked at our factory. I used to be able to earn £146 for 8 hours work on a saturday or sunday. Not really the polish workers fault more the greedy ******* company trying to maximise profits.

 

All staff get minimum wage regardless of where they are from. The issue is productivity. Ultimately the high wages and lazy attitude of UK workers costs both the economy and consumer the Polish workers are more productive and help to set an example to lazy UK workers. They generally end up in jobs where it is traditionally hard to find English people willing to do the work. Any English person out of work without good medical grounds is a lazy git in my opinion.

 

But that's a ridiculous attitude. Why is a company greedy because it employs enough productive workers so it doesn't have to pay workers overtime? And I bet there are more than a few people out there that deliberately slow work down to get the overtime.

Perhaps you are the greedy one.

 

People can get to used to overtime, i have in the past, and when it was taken away i was gutted.

FWIW companys dont run for any other reason then to make loads of cash ??

 

pmsl. just checked the cam the bloke who hates the polish is now hoovering his car outside LOL

 

Really spotless. Mats out, chairs moved, door pockets emptied, crap that might not be crap nicely piled in the pax seat, sweet papers binned, dash treated, internal glass done etc.

 

i would class that as a tidy up, they dont clean seats/carpets/internal plastics etc etc?

still a good price, looks like you are getting the body polish for free

 

We get a few Polish people in the village shop where I work. They are always very polite and courteous. In some respects, I'd prefer them as customers than some of the pig ignorant bolshy Englanders we have.
Yve