Intersting. Most games don't do that though. They load the level data, then use it. Some of the load times in recent games are painful

 

think it's the other way around.

 

Universal are the only studio not supporting blu-ray - there are 3 not supporting hd dvd - but i couldnt find a list of who they are. If one is Fox then hd dvd is screwed as I'd imagine everyone who buys into hd is gonna want star wars...

Also seems a bit strange that Microsoft are pushing hd dvd but Vista isnt going to support it initially.

 

I think that's called sitting on the fence

 

but OS x 10.5 is going to support both... again sitting on the fence - but i apple think have the right idea on that one.

 

MS probably aren't allowed to include support for either format. They'd get sued for bein anti-competetive. I expect to see a whole load of 3rd party programs instead, (i.e. like power dvd, windvd etc).

 

How long will it be before drives support both anyway, much like DVD+R and DVD-R.

 

NEC have supposedly built a prototype that does both. Another company is putting forward an idea using reflective layers on the disc too. the difference between blu-ray and hd dvd is that have the pits at different depths - so that doestn seem like an impossible hurdle to get over...

 

Resistance: Fall of Man was the title. 26gigs of fmv, and 50k worth of gameplay.

 

That's the one

 

But for how long will that be the case ? No doubt they will be cracked eventually then all the extra production cost will be a waste of money.

 

Anyone else heard that GT4:HD will only be coming with a small selection of cars. All the other 750 odd cars will be downloadable from Sonys Live! ripoff..... at a price!

 

Plus, it's just the old game with updated graphics. It's got the same naff ai and handling as the previous one. Got to wait until the end of next year for GT5 until any real improvements appear...

 

Get out of this one if you can Sony

News: Sony profits plunge - MarketingWeek

 

Still, they make nice TVs

 

The loss in the gaming secotr will have been enitrely forseen - Of course the R&D costs and production ramp up is going to hit profits. The battery issue was obviously unforseen.

Either way, it's not going to affect them one iota. The share price is still double what it was in 2003. They are a $60 billion company. I don't think one quarter of low profits on the eve of what is likely to be the biggest console launch in history is going to concern people too much.

 

Well it's not exactly the biggest console launch, they've only managed to do 2 regions, MS managed a worldwide launch, albeit with limited supply, but it was still a worldwide launch.

 

I know you think that Sony are Gods and can do no wrong Pete, but if I were them it would be concerning me. Their public image (outside of japan) has taken a real hammering lately, and the delays of the new console combined with reliability concerns can only damage this further.

Even their electronics brands (especially hifi, walkman etc) are not the best any more. It won't kill the company in the short or even medium term, but they are definitely on the decline at the moment.

 

...and Microsofts "limited" supply was still a lot larger than the PS3 launch supply.

I suspect the biggest launch may actually be the Wii.

 

Why on earth do you think I feel they can do no wrong? They do plenty wrong. I guess I am just sick of the constant Sony bashing over the past few months. Especially when the likes of MS are held up as some sort of gift from the gaming gods.

Sony's rep among the hardcore gamer has taken a real hammering, yes, but that isn't, and never has been Sonys target demographic. The man in the street is completley oblivious to the goings on with lik-sang etc.

In terms of the biggest console lanch in history, I was referring to the actual scale and importance of it, as opposed to literal numbers in the short term. Wait until it launches over here, and the media hype surrounding it - it will knock anything else into a cocked hat.

 

It's just every post you make gives the impression that that's what you think

What about the constant MS bashing from Apple owners or the constant bashing the xbox 1 got from ps2 owners? Don't recall seeing you making any comments about them.

MS are not held up as gaming gods, (in fact I get the opposite impression). But the fact is, they have made an excellent console, with an excellent online service, with a good selection of games. The Sony stuff is a year later to market, very expensive for a console, very limited selection of games, and Sonys attitude has frankly been laughable over the last few months. They are their own worst enemy. Perhaps there wouldn't be as much Sony bashing if they actually delivered on their promises and stopped annoying the fanboys

Ah, got your crystal ball out have you?

It'll be interesting to see how the European launch goes. They'll have missed the prime xmas period, and (as mentioned before) it is very expensive for a games console, so I wonder how many mums will be willing to buy one for little Johnny. Especially when you can buy a 360 plus a Wii (with games) for the same price as the ps3 without games (assuming the rumoured UK prices are to be believed)...

 

Not quite - GT HD is split into 2 -"classic" is basically GT4 in HD but with a few extra graphical bells & whistles plus an online mode.

"Premiuim" is exxentially GT5 Prologue - only meant as a glimpse of what GT5 is going to be like, with only 50 cars and 2 tracks - and a shed load of license tests no doubt...

The extra downloadable content for the GT4 bit is that Polyphony have finally signed a deal with Ferarri so their's and other cars will be what you can download. There have been rumours knocking about that you'll have to pay to make tracks & cars available online - Sony have denied it though saying only content released after the game has shipped will need to be purchesed. - Personally, I cant see them charging for playing GT online - it's their make or break title for online gaming if GT online dies on its **** then so will Sony's online ambitions.

 

There's a good reason for that - Only been a member here since september

 

I certainly hope so - I want my pre-order on Dec 8th dagnammit.

 

Fair enough

 

Wii is the future - have mine on pre-order

 

i wonder if the Wii will sell out due to short supply like MS and Sony seem to everytime they release a console. I remember when the Gamecube was released, they were available in shops from day one and never sold out

 

Agreed, there is absolutely nothing that Sony produces that is desirable these days. Their personal music players are just tacky, Apple,Samsung,Creative are all better. Their TV's are well behind the ones from Panasonic and Pioneer and their Hi-Fi systems are just average at best.

The PS3 had better be one amazing machine.

 

Well I'm certainly disappointed in the delays in the appearance of the PS3, but I also believe that if Sony ultimately backed down from the world of consoles, it would be a great shame. Where would the driving competition to force new console designs come from? Hardware development would become complacent although admittedly, stability may become better as lead times become longer due to lack of driving forces to get the product out before your rival. All IMHO of course

I hope to see a major resurgance for Nintendo with the introduction of the Wii.

It's good that MS have put out such a good (when it works ) machine with the 360 as it raises the bar and (hopefully) promotes that competitive side that drives progression on.