Bare shell rebuild project with 500 bhp
05 October 2006, 09:34 PM
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just fully stripped the car tonight 
was,nt as bad as i thought really (quite easy) i will be getting started on cleaning it up ready for seam welding .
was,nt as bad as i thought really (quite easy) i will be getting started on cleaning it up ready for seam welding .
05 October 2006, 09:51 PM
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Yes, that is stripped!
Do you feel you do really need to stich weld the shell? With a decent cage in the car tied to the shell at the right places isn't that enough?
Great progress, look forward to the next stage. Keep it coming!
Graham
Do you feel you do really need to stich weld the shell? With a decent cage in the car tied to the shell at the right places isn't that enough?
Great progress, look forward to the next stage. Keep it coming!
Graham
05 October 2006, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 911
Yes, that is stripped!
Do you feel you do really need to stich weld the shell? With a decent cage in the car tied to the shell at the right places isn't that enough?
Great progress, look forward to the next stage. Keep it coming!
Graham
Do you feel you do really need to stich weld the shell? With a decent cage in the car tied to the shell at the right places isn't that enough?
Great progress, look forward to the next stage. Keep it coming!
Graham
but i want to keep the car looking standard ish inside as it will be used as a family car and its a bit of a pain climbing around a roll cage . plus i like my roof lining 
06 October 2006, 09:15 AM
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Call that fully stripped...???
I can still see the little plastic things that the window surrounding trim things screw into...
How many box's of nuts/bolts/brackets/clips have you got now Neil...??
BTW, drop all the nuts/bolts/brackets off, and we'll get them re-plated...
I can still see the little plastic things that the window surrounding trim things screw into...
How many box's of nuts/bolts/brackets/clips have you got now Neil...??
BTW, drop all the nuts/bolts/brackets off, and we'll get them re-plated...
06 October 2006, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by neil@eclipse
Call that fully stripped...???
I can still see the little plastic things that the window surrounding trim things screw into...
How many box's of nuts/bolts/brackets/clips have you got now Neil...??
BTW, drop all the nuts/bolts/brackets off, and we'll get them re-plated...
I can still see the little plastic things that the window surrounding trim things screw into...
How many box's of nuts/bolts/brackets/clips have you got now Neil...??
BTW, drop all the nuts/bolts/brackets off, and we'll get them re-plated...
you shall be stripping the little clips out just incase they break
. i,ll work out whats going back on and send them over to you neil
13 October 2006, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by pugsleygti
well i'll be following this thread closely i got my white classic half stripped in the garage now i decided what colour i'm having it but don't know what to do a bout a roll cage would like one but they ain't cheap , can anyone recommend somewhere in the midlands also i taken the hinges off for the boot does anyone have pics of how they gone about attaching a carbon one or something similar, don't want to hijack the thread but we're going down the same lines i think so hopefully any advice will be useful for us both
thanx chris
thanx chris
13 October 2006, 10:29 AM
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Coming on nicely Neil, the new age loom is all one unit i.e. engine, dash & the rest of the car, I have one lurking somewhere........
Threw the newgae dash, heater box, AC matrix in the bin as nobody wanted it
Threw the newgae dash, heater box, AC matrix in the bin as nobody wanted it
13 October 2006, 11:20 AM
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R&D motorsport for cages. (custom cages)
Neil, Can you get stuff plated? drop me a mail if you can!!
Neil, Can you get stuff plated? drop me a mail if you can!!
13 October 2006, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Conrad_Bradley
Coming on nicely Neil, the new age loom is all one unit i.e. engine, dash & the rest of the car, I have one lurking somewhere........
Threw the newgae dash, heater box, AC matrix in the bin as nobody wanted it
Threw the newgae dash, heater box, AC matrix in the bin as nobody wanted it
gutted if you come across it conrad let me know
and that aps intercooler was a right ar*e to pack 
should be with you monday as it took a couple of days to find a box big enough
13 October 2006, 08:49 PM
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got the engine bay ready for seam welding 
just started cleaning the inner wings out as there being painted will post pics tomorrow after the welding has been done .
just started cleaning the inner wings out as there being painted will post pics tomorrow after the welding has been done .
14 October 2006, 08:53 PM
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started seam welding the body today , or should i say my m8 did got most of the engine bay done and started getting the sound proofing out of the car .
got most of the engine bay done and started getting the sound proofing out of the car .
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14 October 2006, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 911
Nice job done.
Amazed how much you have achieved over such a short time.
Graham
Amazed how much you have achieved over such a short time.
Graham
i,m hoping it keeps going that way graham
should have the engine bay fully seam welded tomorrow and the sound proffing out was it yuo who did the drawing on dave wallis,s project , if so i could do with your help on designing something
14 October 2006, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by nas sti
i bet it was all well worth it john i seen your car go at totb 
and it was fast hoping for similar but having the 6 speed will slow it down
i will be going to 2.33 route with a engine capable of over 600bhp but running at low 500,s high 400lbs torque i hope
and it was fast hoping for similar but having the 6 speed will slow it down i will be going to 2.33 route with a engine capable of over 600bhp but running at low 500,s
high 400lbs torque i hope taken car back to garage for gearbox upgrade i will let u know the result.
14 October 2006, 10:37 PM
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Neil, don't go too far forward with the seam welding, ideally you shouldn't go beyond the strut towers otherwise you could have a bit of a problem should you have a front end crunch...apparently the chassis legs try to go through the bulkhead if they don't crumple
14 October 2006, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PAUL CRAFTS
Hey up Naz sti.. just looking at your thread, ive got a 2.33 been running it for a few months with only 1 bar of boost got a 11.9 1/4 mile with it. Car de-tuned down to 380 bhp & around 380 ldft cos of gearbox.
taken car back to garage for gearbox upgrade i will let u know the result.
taken car back to garage for gearbox upgrade i will let u know the result.
i,d be very happy with a low 11,s 1/4 of a mile as it will have a 6 speed box ,
if i can make scooby shootout next year it should be running between 500bhp and 550bhp and hopefully near 500lbs torque
let me know your reuslts paul ,what power are you expecting to run .
14 October 2006, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim W
Neil, don't go too far forward with the seam welding, ideally you shouldn't go beyond the strut towers otherwise you could have a bit of a problem should you have a front end crunch...apparently the chassis legs try to go through the bulkhead if they don't crumple
oops
i better be carefull then
15 October 2006, 08:32 AM
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nas: Yes, i playfully sketched Davids new project.
Agree with John above, all modded shells (on hill climb cars) I've seen have been stitched, weld 25mm, miss 25mm etc. Many people call stich welding 'seam welding'.
Graham
Agree with John above, all modded shells (on hill climb cars) I've seen have been stitched, weld 25mm, miss 25mm etc. Many people call stich welding 'seam welding'.
Graham
15 October 2006, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by nas sti
i,d be very happy with a low 11,s 1/4 of a mile as it will have a 6 speed box ,
if i can make scooby shootout next year it should be running between 500bhp and 550bhp and hopefully near 500lbs torque
let me know your reuslts paul ,what power are you expecting to run .
if i can make scooby shootout next year it should be running between 500bhp and 550bhp and hopefully near 500lbs torque
let me know your reuslts paul ,what power are you expecting to run .
Iam going to give the 5 speed gearbox a go with ppg kit .
no good for top speed run's but should go well on the tight tracks hey..
15 October 2006, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by John Stevenson
Why are you welding all of the seams continuously? You would be better stitch welding one on two off.
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only the engine bay and and struts are being welded completely all the rest is a inch and miss 2 inch
15 October 2006, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim W
I was also told the seam(s) where the bulkhead meets the floor pan makes the biggest difference once welded up
thanks tim
15 October 2006, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 911
nas: Yes, i playfully sketched Davids new project.
Agree with John above, all modded shells (on hill climb cars) I've seen have been stitched, weld 25mm, miss 25mm etc. Many people call stich welding 'seam welding'.
Graham
Agree with John above, all modded shells (on hill climb cars) I've seen have been stitched, weld 25mm, miss 25mm etc. Many people call stich welding 'seam welding'.
Graham
if you help graham i need somthing designed on a drawing
15 October 2006, 08:14 PM
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is there a problem fully welding it plus its only the engine bay and struts that are fully weleded . can only see the problems as more weight and stronger .
plus its only the engine bay and struts that are fully weleded . can only see the problems as more weight and stronger .
15 October 2006, 08:24 PM
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I guess Tim's point is fair.
The car was designed to crumple on sever impact to save the occupants as much as possible.
I think this 'fails' when you add a MULTIPOINT cage, or welding the panels solid.
I cannot recal if you are missing the cage out? I think you said you are.
I would not worry too much about it as a crunch can come from any angle, you rarely have a say in it!
Keep going.
Graham
The car was designed to crumple on sever impact to save the occupants as much as possible.
I think this 'fails' when you add a MULTIPOINT cage, or welding the panels solid.
I cannot recal if you are missing the cage out? I think you said you are.
I would not worry too much about it as a crunch can come from any angle, you rarely have a say in it!
Keep going.
Graham
15 October 2006, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 911
I guess Tim's point is fair.
The car was designed to crumple on sever impact to save the occupants as much as possible.
I think this 'fails' when you add a MULTIPOINT cage, or welding the panels solid.
I cannot recal if you are missing the cage out? I think you said you are.
I would not worry too much about it as a crunch can come from any angle, you rarely have a say in it!
Keep going.
Graham
The car was designed to crumple on sever impact to save the occupants as much as possible.
I think this 'fails' when you add a MULTIPOINT cage, or welding the panels solid.
I cannot recal if you are missing the cage out? I think you said you are.
I would not worry too much about it as a crunch can come from any angle, you rarely have a say in it!
Keep going.
Graham
exactly graham
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