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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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Another case in point, burglar gets off with a community order:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/g...re/5346850.stm

But to be fair the woman who hit him over the head with a pan repeatedly wasn't banged up either, infact the judge said:

Judge Tabor told El-Hamady during his last hearing that many people would have approved of her no-nonsense approach to him.
"I suspect many right-thinking members of the public regret she didn't hit you harder."


Which seems fair enough

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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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It would be funny if it wasn't true and to be perfectly honest fully expected either. It's a warped world m8, what if anything came of it, did he get anything or did you?

Despite an extensive search (all of about 5 mins) they gave up and could not find him, they said it was late and had tea and biscuits to get back to at the station
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
kinda like giving a 3 year driving ban to a 13 year old pmsl
Or a blind immigrant
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Did you read today about the women who swore at some kids who'd been giving her abuse for years, 13 year old shopped her & now she has a fine to pay! Well played Mr Policeman.

Also heard that in Dubai or similar if you get sent to prison & have no money/family you basically starve to death as they don't feed you for free ... sounds OK to me, life is far too easy for the crims who seem to see Prison as a piece of p1ss.

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The story you are referring to is here

Yes it does pay. A friend of mine is in the police. A recent case was an alarm went off at a business premises one night. He was single crewed but nearby when he was notified. He went to the premises to find a door kicked in and noises coming from inside. He was told backup was on the way, so went in and was confronted by 2 burglars. He confronted one who then tried to assault him, and in the ensuing scuffle, my mate received some bruising and a cut lip but arrested the guy. It went to court and the criminal received £50 for resisting arrest and a community order for the burglary(I think concurrent with another one). Needless to say he had previous.

My mate pointed out that you get more for littering these days, so yes, crime does pay

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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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think the police realy need to look at there policies and pick up the law book again and stop harasing people drivin to do things because the police have done bugger all, perhaps if they stopped the problem in the first place then the situation would never happen, they keep saying prevention is better than punishment, so GOD DAMN PROOVE IT AND PRATICE WHAT YOU PREACH!!!!!


breath in,,,,, breath out,,,,,, pmsl
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 06:56 AM
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Each police force now have budgets and us fully legal drivers are a nice steady source of income for them. If 100 % of speed related revenue was pumped into public transport rather than to the force the police would soon back off.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Scooby-Doo
Each police force now have budgets and us fully legal drivers are a nice steady source of income for them. If 100 % of speed related revenue was pumped into public transport rather than to the force the police would soon back off.
Or you could just obey the laws of the road
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Or you could just obey the laws of the road
There is not a person and i mean not a person on here who has not strayed over the speed limit
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
Some on entered my house about twelve months ago - thing is i was asleep on the sofa at the time, (been on the pop at weekend) anyway he woke me and i had to shall we say eject him from my premises. i rung teh police and they turned up (give them their due) within 5 minutes. i admitted he might be injured as he tripped over my doorstep and onto my driveway.

to my disbelief i was told if he was hurt and wanted to make an official complaint for assault they coudl come back and arrest me - i was dumbstruck.

so i said fine bring him back and let me do a proper job on him! then nick me

I was feckin' blazin!
That's the kind of thing that bugs me, sticking up for your own.

I don't know what i would do in that situation, as i would fk them up big time. I know the adrenalin etc kicks in and it wouldn't be pretty.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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There is not a person and i mean not a person on here who has not strayed over the speed limit
I agree - me included on a regular basis.

But I accept the fact that if I do speed, then I take a chance. We have all passed the driving test and more-or-less agreed to stick to the laws of the road.

I think some people are in too much of a hurry on roads and often leave to little time for journeys. If they know there is a stretch of road that is down to 30mph then add a little more time to your journey. Or travel that little bit faster, get there sooner, but accept the fact that you might get caught speeding.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
I agree - me included on a regular basis.

But I accept the fact that if I do speed, then I take a chance. We have all passed the driving test and more-or-less agreed to stick to the laws of the road.

I think some people are in too much of a hurry on roads and often leave to little time for journeys. If they know there is a stretch of road that is down to 30mph then add a little more time to your journey. Or travel that little bit faster, get there sooner, but accept the fact that you might get caught speeding.
fair comment, but the whole pointis that there so obssessed with stopping people doing it, which 99% causes no problems, that they have forgotten what true crimes are, such as car theft, burglury etc etc
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
fair comment, but the whole pointis that there so obssessed with stopping people doing it, which 99% causes no problems, that they have forgotten what true crimes are, such as car theft, burglury etc etc
The majority is done now by static cameras

The only ones that can pull you for speeding are the traffic cars, which make up only a small proportion of the police. Crimes are dealt with by emergency response teams, CID and local beats.

Stopping cars will always be part of the job as the majority of criminals use cars for their criminal purposes
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
The majority is done now by static cameras

The only ones that can pull you for speeding are the traffic cars, which make up only a small proportion of the police. Crimes are dealt with by emergency response teams, CID and local beats.

Stopping cars will always be part of the job as the majority of criminals use cars for their criminal purposes
yeah maybe, but how can you justify the expence? the camera's cost around £20,000 each at least, two camera's equals one cops salary, there always moaning about they don't have enough funding yet they spend millions on a petty crime such as speeding
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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does crime pay? I watched Fun with Dick and Jane last night, worth watching if you want to know if it pays or not.

End of the day it depends on the sort of person you are, could you live with yourself knowing youve stolen some kids christmas presents on christmas eve etc?
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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thing is even if you get caught you never have to pay the lot back, eg that cop who got doen for mobile phone fraud, he g0t £30million but had to pay £12million back, so what about the other 18mill?
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
yeah maybe, but how can you justify the expence? the camera's cost around £20,000 each at least, two camera's equals one cops salary, there always moaning about they don't have enough funding yet they spend millions on a petty crime such as speeding
So do we just leave the roads to themselves....
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
So do we just leave the roads to themselves....
no, just reduce the number of police hangning around looking to pull people get em out responding to crimes and investigating those that need to be.

although tbh i think doing this is a watse of time as well untill sentancng is sorted out, a slap on the wrist to a multiple offender does nothing
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
So do we just leave the roads to themselves....

No i'd scrap scameras unless opposite schools or genuine black spots - normally they are sited to gain the most revenue - even my traffic cop buddy agrees to that. i would then get the traffic police to forget about pulling people for straying over the limit and concentrate on the uninsured/nicked/un-taxed - k**b heads who drive like tw*ts in a built up areas.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
thing is even if you get caught you never have to pay the lot back, eg that cop who got doen for mobile phone fraud, he g0t £30million but had to pay £12million back, so what about the other 18mill?
Taxes
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
Taxes
some sort of scam involving fraud and tax's i think, was in metro a few weeks ago lol
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Or you could just obey the laws of the road
The trouble is where speed cameras have been introduced and people are slowing down, they are seeing a drop in revenue and so are decreasing the speed limits to the point where people are prepared to exceed them again.

40mph on a good dual carriage way is just plain unrealistic, especially when they had to include a suicide jumper from a bridge on to the road in to the KSI stats to do it
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
The trouble is where speed cameras have been introduced and people are slowing down, they are seeing a drop in revenue and so are decreasing the speed limits to the point where people are prepared to exceed them again.

40mph on a good dual carriage way is just plain unrealistic, especially when they had to include a suicide jumper from a bridge on to the road in to the KSI stats to do it
wonder where that is? ikea anyone??? lol
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
wonder where that is? ikea anyone??? lol
Bonkers isn't it?
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Bonkers isn't it?
yeah tell me about it, having said that they don't enforce it anyway, joined it at 60 smack bang infront of a police car (was night at the time so didn't realise till i got to the motorway) and they didn't pull me lol
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
yeah tell me about it, having said that they don't enforce it anyway, joined it at 60 smack bang infront of a police car (was night at the time so didn't realise till i got to the motorway) and they didn't pull me lol
They had a SCAMERA van in the laybay on the LHS as you head towards the motorway from Ikea the other day.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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def an area of scam rather than safety, mikey aka gridlock sent a letter to the council about it i believe
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
def an area of scam rather than safety, mikey aka gridlock sent a letter to the council about it i believe
I emailed them.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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bunch of ****witts spring to mind, they wonder y theres a high death rate ona road with the only high bridge for miles around,,,,,,,, doesn't take a rocket scientists to work out y there so many deaths does it. realy gets up my goat though
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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Of course Crime pays - wouldn't be illegal otherwise.
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