Subaru 2006 STi WRX versus Mitsuibishi FQ 300
27 August 2006, 03:45 PM
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Do you get turbo lag in all turbo cars when changing gears?!
Im not sure I get it, well only when I pull off in any gear at revs under 3500.
Changing gears just keeps me pinned to the seat, thats right isnt it?!
I change at 7000, just as it comes onto the redline and im just pinned to the seat in every gear even with a full car(but not so much) Its a my95import with center cat and hks filter, think the ecu may have been tinkered with as it pulls like a fit prostitute in a businessmans club going free from 0-112 where I change from 4th to 5th
Im not sure I get it, well only when I pull off in any gear at revs under 3500.
Changing gears just keeps me pinned to the seat, thats right isnt it?!
I change at 7000, just as it comes onto the redline and im just pinned to the seat in every gear even with a full car(but not so much) Its a my95import with center cat and hks filter, think the ecu may have been tinkered with as it pulls like a fit prostitute in a businessmans club going free from 0-112 where I change from 4th to 5th
27 August 2006, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 54Roadster
Got an MY05 Sti with PPP, with about 5.2k on it and I agree with the lag from 3rd to 4th, just seems to drop off a bit. I guess this is a common thing then? Not that I thrash it up and down the gears that often, as I dont fancy re mortgaging for a new engine, but I have wondered why it slows at that gear change.
. All I can think of is that you are changing up too early. I'm also an ex Evo owner and theres no way a standard FQ 300 would get away from a STI PPP.
27 August 2006, 06:46 PM
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If there are any issues with the turbo etc it will be picked up on there. Personally though I'd take it to somewhere that has a Dyno Dynamics roller. Power Engineering have a MAHA which will give you inflated readings - about 5% higher than true. Regardless though, any problems should be highlighted to you.
27 August 2006, 08:33 PM
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Bil,
Had a series 28 Turbo fitted, it kicks in @ 3800 & pulls all the way to 6000 no lag below that.
So the 3rd to 4th thing shouldn't be a problem.
I think the rolling road idea is a good one to sus out what is going on.
Good luck in getting your Scooby to make Mr Evo nervous.
Alan MaC
Had a series 28 Turbo fitted, it kicks in @ 3800 & pulls all the way to 6000 no lag below that.
So the 3rd to 4th thing shouldn't be a problem.
I think the rolling road idea is a good one to sus out what is going on.
Good luck in getting your Scooby to make Mr Evo nervous.
Alan MaC
28 August 2006, 08:52 AM
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i guess we can only doa PPP if we still want our warranty intact
so no Power station then?
Can you do a PPP and convert to Powerstation upgrade later down the line
so no Power station then?
Can you do a PPP and convert to Powerstation upgrade later down the line
28 August 2006, 10:06 AM
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If you look on Powerstations website, it says they give warranty on their upgrade packages.
http://www.powerstation.org.uk/subaru_tuning.asp
http://www.powerstation.org.uk/subaru_tuning.asp
28 August 2006, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bil
theres nothing wrong with my gear change
i used to have an escort cosworth - this STi is letdown - its even slower than the cossie.
Im beginning to think there is something wrong with this STI --- it is not fast at all.
i used to have an escort cosworth - this STi is letdown - its even slower than the cossie.
Im beginning to think there is something wrong with this STI --- it is not fast at all.
as for getting the PPP done and then go to powerstation etc later on its aa waste of money - do one or the other
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28 August 2006, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bil
which STi should i have bought?
It is a better car than the UK version, but there are disadvantages associated with Non-UK version ownership. Don't worry - they are all good bases for future modification.
Any closer to decided on whether or not your going to go for the PPP?
28 August 2006, 04:33 PM
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Hi there
i just need to understand if the powerstation one will invalidate the Subaru warranty?
I reckon the powerstation is a more noiser and powerful upgrade than the PPP from what ive been looking at
i just need to understand if the powerstation one will invalidate the Subaru warranty?
I reckon the powerstation is a more noiser and powerful upgrade than the PPP from what ive been looking at
28 August 2006, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bil
Hi there
i just need to understand if the powerstation one will invalidate the Subaru warranty?
I reckon the powerstation is a more noiser and powerful upgrade than the PPP from what ive been looking at
i just need to understand if the powerstation one will invalidate the Subaru warranty?
I reckon the powerstation is a more noiser and powerful upgrade than the PPP from what ive been looking at
If you can get that, then that added to the PS warranty and you should be OK.
Like what's been said before now. If you really want to keep your warranty, no questions asked, then the only modification route is PPP.
I've had struts and battery changed under warranty, even though it's modded.
28 August 2006, 04:41 PM
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The Powerstation one will invalidate your warrenty.
Personally mate - and this all depends on how long your going to keep the car, I'd leave it standard and until the warranty runs out... then it would be a full 3/3.5" system, new turbo, new intercooler and EcuTek remap... this will see you well up around the 350bhp mark.
If your only going to have the car for a couple of years then PPP now would be a better option in terms of resale value.
Personally mate - and this all depends on how long your going to keep the car, I'd leave it standard and until the warranty runs out... then it would be a full 3/3.5" system, new turbo, new intercooler and EcuTek remap... this will see you well up around the 350bhp mark.
If your only going to have the car for a couple of years then PPP now would be a better option in terms of resale value.
28 August 2006, 04:44 PM
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Talk to your garage though as said... the PPP is afterall just a EcuTek remap with a Prodrive exhaust system. They are unlikely to be happy with you using an alternative but equilvant power upgrade because they do want to sell you the PPP after all!
28 August 2006, 06:13 PM
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You need to consider power bands and delivery. Its not just 'peak' bhp but the way its delivered accross the rev range. STI's do seem to be lacking in power above 70mph - and i'd expect an FQ300 to win quite comfortably. FQ300 hits 100 in around 12 secs remember.
Never driven an STI PPP but ive heard it makes a lot of difference. So theres your answer, get a PPP.
Never driven an STI PPP but ive heard it makes a lot of difference. So theres your answer, get a PPP.
28 August 2006, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by turbodan
You need to consider power bands and delivery. Its not just 'peak' bhp but the way its delivered accross the rev range. STI's do seem to be lacking in power above 70mph - and i'd expect an FQ300 to win quite comfortably. FQ300 hits 100 in around 12 secs remember.
A MY06 maybe even quicker as they are around 280bhp out of the box rather than 265bhp.
28 August 2006, 07:08 PM
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I have a MY05 sti, when it had the ppp on it I used to find the torque flattened off above 6k rpm, since I had the tsl333 on it it pullls torque flat out to 7k rpm, sounds like you need a remap,panel filter etc at least, by the sounds the fq300 wasnt standard either by a long shot.
I have had fun with 340s, they are quicker than me just but only a car length or so tbh, not exactly blowing me away.
I have had fun with 340s, they are quicker than me just but only a car length or so tbh, not exactly blowing me away.
28 August 2006, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bil
so what your ultimatley saying is
Get the PPP, and it will be like the FQ300 (level playing field)
(you see he got me on the gear changes even though i have kwik shift and he doesnt - i think the turbo lag wrecked me)
Get the PPP, and it will be like the FQ300 (level playing field)
(you see he got me on the gear changes even though i have kwik shift and he doesnt - i think the turbo lag wrecked me)
29 August 2006, 10:18 PM
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sure it wasn't one of these http://cars.uk.msn.com/Reviews/artic...umentid=820668
A friend of mine has driven one at Bruntingthorpe very impressive.
A friend of mine has driven one at Bruntingthorpe very impressive.