What have pigs ever done wrong ?
16 August 2006, 03:55 PM
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What a crock. People have eaten pig blood as black pudding for absolutely ages with no ill effects, other then high cholesterol if they eat too much.
And some african tribes routinely drink blood from their cows as a staple source of food.
And some african tribes routinely drink blood from their cows as a staple source of food.
16 August 2006, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Iwan
What a crock. People have eaten pig blood as black pudding for absolutely ages with no ill effects, other then high cholesterol if they eat too much.
And some african tribes routinely drink blood from their cows as a staple source of food.
And some african tribes routinely drink blood from their cows as a staple source of food.
16 August 2006, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
Pigs used to be full of horrible parasites very harmful to Humans. The evil spirits thing is a religuois way of expressing this.
Used to be. Quite. So in what way is Islam a forward looking, progressive religion if it still sticks to this outdated nonsense?
16 August 2006, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Used to be. Quite. So in what way is Islam a forward looking, progressive religion if it still sticks to this outdated nonsense?
What a crock of ****e. Pork dangerous? Do me a favour....
16 August 2006, 04:34 PM
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Well exactly. Did you see the post from R4lly the other day about how evolution couldn't possibly have happened. No way, never ever. And these people BELIEVE this crap, they really do. They're convinced of it. Apes to them are down with the whale**** at the bottom of the ocean in terms of mankind's development.
16 August 2006, 04:37 PM
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its pretty much as I thought really. Relgion has always been about controllling the masses and setting the rules for society to exist. Most of it is just about common sense and doing the right thing
Shame no-one within the various religions is allowed to think for themselves or update their teachings for a modern world really.
And "god says so" cannot be rational by definition. It may well "enough" or "acceptable" for some but not rational. Few would accept it was rational if I claimed a green man from mars told me not to eat Beef.
Shame no-one within the various religions is allowed to think for themselves or update their teachings for a modern world really.
And "god says so" cannot be rational by definition. It may well "enough" or "acceptable" for some but not rational. Few would accept it was rational if I claimed a green man from mars told me not to eat Beef.
16 August 2006, 04:39 PM
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Actually if the real truth is known pigs were used as sexual playthings by the people that founded Islam, they then consider the meat to be tainted and henceforth didn't eat them.
16 August 2006, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Well exactly. Did you see the post from R4lly the other day about how evolution couldn't possibly have happened. No way, never ever. And these people BELIEVE this crap, they really do. They're convinced of it. Apes to them are down with the whale**** at the bottom of the ocean in terms of mankind's development.
16 August 2006, 04:46 PM
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That won't change anything though unfortunately, not unless we get irrefutable proof of how the Universe was created. And even then, i don't think the majority of religious people want to give up their beliefs in any case.
16 August 2006, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
Pigs used to be full of horrible parasites very harmful to Humans. The evil spirits thing is a religuois way of expressing this.
16 August 2006, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Psychopath
What a crock of ****e. Pork dangerous? Do me a favour....
If you look in ANY cookery book or speak to any decent chef he will tell you...
lamb - very nice rare.
beef - very nice rare, you can even eat it raw sir, steak tartare?
pork - make sure you cook it right through
There is a reason for the latter and it is not contamination as widely thought, it is to kill bacteria and parasitic infestation.
So, pork dangerous? Please eat some rare pork roast and we will see
16 August 2006, 08:13 PM
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Hmmm. Eating dodgy pork looks OK to me 
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn4852
Regular doses of worms really do rid people of inflammatory bowel disease. The first trials of the treatment have been a success, and a drinkable concoction containing thousands of pig whipworm eggs could soon be launched in Europe.
The trials follow the success of a pilot study, revealed by New Scientist in 1999. Weinstock came up with the idea of using worms to treat IBD after noticing that the sharp rise in the disease over the past 50 years in western countries coincided with a fall in infections by parasites such as roundworms and human whipworms. IBD is still rare in developing countries where parasitic infections remain common.
Weinstock's theory is that our immune systems have evolved to cope with the presence of such parasites, and can become overactive without them.
The trials follow the success of a pilot study, revealed by New Scientist in 1999. Weinstock came up with the idea of using worms to treat IBD after noticing that the sharp rise in the disease over the past 50 years in western countries coincided with a fall in infections by parasites such as roundworms and human whipworms. IBD is still rare in developing countries where parasitic infections remain common.
Weinstock's theory is that our immune systems have evolved to cope with the presence of such parasites, and can become overactive without them.
16 August 2006, 08:16 PM
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Hey - go ahead and be my guest - eat badly cooked pork.
Then wait while the flukes slowly eat there way through your liver and make their way to your heart where they will form cysts and lay their little eggs.
Yummy in my tummy
PS Interesting theory about the whipworms though
Then wait while the flukes slowly eat there way through your liver and make their way to your heart where they will form cysts and lay their little eggs.
Yummy in my tummy
PS Interesting theory about the whipworms though
16 August 2006, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rannoch
In spite of my inner sense telling me not to feed the troll - here goes.
If you look in ANY cookery book or speak to any decent chef he will tell you...
lamb - very nice rare.
beef - very nice rare, you can even eat it raw sir, steak tartare?
pork - make sure you cook it right through
There is a reason for the latter and it is not contamination as widely thought, it is to kill bacteria and parasitic infestation.
So, pork dangerous? Please eat some rare pork roast and we will see
If you look in ANY cookery book or speak to any decent chef he will tell you...
lamb - very nice rare.
beef - very nice rare, you can even eat it raw sir, steak tartare?
pork - make sure you cook it right through
There is a reason for the latter and it is not contamination as widely thought, it is to kill bacteria and parasitic infestation.
So, pork dangerous? Please eat some rare pork roast and we will see
16 August 2006, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rannoch
Hey - go ahead and be my guest - eat badly cooked pork.
Then wait while the flukes slowly eat there way through your liver and make their way to your heart where they will form cysts and lay their little eggs.
Yummy in my tummy
PS Interesting theory about the whipworms though
Then wait while the flukes slowly eat there way through your liver and make their way to your heart where they will form cysts and lay their little eggs.
Yummy in my tummy
PS Interesting theory about the whipworms though
Though fresh urine is sterile, left standing it will provide an excellent medium for bacterial growth. Therefor it is always advisable to use fresh. Don't try to keep it in the 'fridge overnight or for when guests drop in.
16 August 2006, 09:06 PM
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Here's why they don't eat pigs, as sent to me totally out of the blue last week by one of my colleagues, who is from Pakistan:
http://discover.islamway.com/article...e_id=39&lang=1
http://www.jews-for-allah.org/phpbb/...665a1b4ea0962c
16 August 2006, 09:08 PM
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Vincent: Want some bacon?
Jules: No man, I don't eat pork.
Vincent: Are you Jewish?
Jules: Nah, I ain't Jewish, I just don't dig on swine, that's all.
Vincent: Why not?
Jules: Pigs are filthy animals. I don't eat filthy animals.
Vincent: Bacon tastes gooood. Pork chops taste gooood.
Jules: Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfcuker. Pigs sleep and root in ****. That's a filthy animal. I ain't eat nothin' that ain't got enough sense enough to disregard its own faeces.
Vincent: How about a dog? Dogs eats its own feces.
Jules: I don't eat dog either.
Vincent: Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal?
Jules: I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
Vincent: Ah, so by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that true?
Jules: Well we'd have to be talkin' about one charmin' motherfcukin' pig. I mean he'd have to be ten times more charmin' than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I'm sayin'?
Jules: No man, I don't eat pork.
Vincent: Are you Jewish?
Jules: Nah, I ain't Jewish, I just don't dig on swine, that's all.
Vincent: Why not?
Jules: Pigs are filthy animals. I don't eat filthy animals.
Vincent: Bacon tastes gooood. Pork chops taste gooood.
Jules: Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfcuker. Pigs sleep and root in ****. That's a filthy animal. I ain't eat nothin' that ain't got enough sense enough to disregard its own faeces.
Vincent: How about a dog? Dogs eats its own feces.
Jules: I don't eat dog either.
Vincent: Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal?
Jules: I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
Vincent: Ah, so by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that true?
Jules: Well we'd have to be talkin' about one charmin' motherfcukin' pig. I mean he'd have to be ten times more charmin' than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I'm sayin'?
16 August 2006, 09:19 PM
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Nature of a pig
The pig is naturally lazy and indulgent in sex. It dislikes sun-light and lacks the spirit and will to 'fight'. The older it grows the lazier it gets. It eats almost anything, be it faeces or anything dirty. It prefers dirty places to clean ones. It eats and sleeps only and hates moving around. It is the most avaricious of all domestic animals. Amongst all animals, the pig is the greatest cradle of harmful germs. Pork also serves as a carrier of diseases to mankind. It is for this reason that it is not suitable for consumption.
Some people have argued that the 'modern pig' is given only clean food and therefore its flesh should be consumable. The answer to this arguments is this: you feed the pig with clean wholesome mash but you cannot change its nature. It is still a pig. A pig is not a plant and you cannot change it by bud-grafting.
The pig is naturally lazy and indulgent in sex. It dislikes sun-light and lacks the spirit and will to 'fight'. The older it grows the lazier it gets. It eats almost anything, be it faeces or anything dirty. It prefers dirty places to clean ones. It eats and sleeps only and hates moving around. It is the most avaricious of all domestic animals. Amongst all animals, the pig is the greatest cradle of harmful germs. Pork also serves as a carrier of diseases to mankind. It is for this reason that it is not suitable for consumption.
Some people have argued that the 'modern pig' is given only clean food and therefore its flesh should be consumable. The answer to this arguments is this: you feed the pig with clean wholesome mash but you cannot change its nature. It is still a pig. A pig is not a plant and you cannot change it by bud-grafting.
http://www.islamweb.net/ver2/archive...ang=E&id=25842
Makes perfect sense to me
16 August 2006, 10:27 PM
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according to Walker's site....they're suitable for that other group of illogical wackos...."vegitarians".
So I'm guessing that means the pork content is pretty low
So I'm guessing that means the pork content is pretty low
16 August 2006, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
As Christianity and Islam are derived from Judaism, it may be more interesting to ask why Christians deviated from the no pigs rule.
17 August 2006, 11:00 AM
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What happens if a Muslim smells Bacon cooking, do they retch or go mmmmm and then realise what they are smelling, cos it does smell wonderful, I even know strict veggies that will nibble on a little bit of very crispy Bacon, then feel guilty.
Humans just like to impose rules and feel guilty for daft reasons, hurt someone else, then feel guilty but why feel guilty about a bit of Bacon.
Humans just like to impose rules and feel guilty for daft reasons, hurt someone else, then feel guilty but why feel guilty about a bit of Bacon.