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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
if they do not like it, why do they bother?
i dont like sprouts, but i dont setup camp on a sprout farm and start killing the farmers.
i stay away from the sprouts
sprouts are the REAL problem
i dont like sprouts, but i dont setup camp on a sprout farm and start killing the farmers.
i stay away from the sprouts
sprouts are the REAL problem
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Originally Posted by Diablo
But what if you are a pea on that sprout farm, and the farmers then send off their troops to the pea farm and start killing all the peas?
Can't believe we're going here
Can't believe we're going here
The US/UK forces generally don't kill out of hatred. In fact if they weren't there the Muslims do a pretty good job killing each other.
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Originally Posted by Diablo
But what if you are a pea on that sprout farm, and the farmers then send off their troops to the pea farm and start killing all the peas?
Can't believe we're going here
Can't believe we're going here
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Originally Posted by dharbige
Is this theoretical "british born muslim" joing the "official" armed force of those countries, fighting in uniform in a declared war according to the rules of the Geneva Convention? Or have they just picked up an AK-47 and gone around shooting "enemy" soldiers?
If the former, fair enough. I don't think he should be treated like a terrorist.
If the latter, he IS a terrorist.
Fighting for the IDF, in uniform, is not a terrorist activity. The killing of innocent lebanese and palestinians is deplorable, regretable but not an "atrocity". Non-combatants always suffer in war zones.
If they stand for the total eradication of another people, then I don't see that this justifies their actions.
Personally, I think Israel has seriously over-reacted in the current crisis. However, there was certainly SOMETHING to react to and they are by no means totally to blame for the current situation. Neither are they totally innocent.
It seems to me that there are too many followers of the Muslim faith who support (or at least do not criticise) the actions of other so-called Muslims, just because they call themselves Muslims. To me, there is nothing "Muslim" about blowing up an airplane, shooting poeple with AK-47s, or lobbing rockets into populated areas. These people are terrorists, nothing more, and they don't deserve anybody's support.
If the former, fair enough. I don't think he should be treated like a terrorist.
If the latter, he IS a terrorist.
Fighting for the IDF, in uniform, is not a terrorist activity. The killing of innocent lebanese and palestinians is deplorable, regretable but not an "atrocity". Non-combatants always suffer in war zones.
If they stand for the total eradication of another people, then I don't see that this justifies their actions.
Personally, I think Israel has seriously over-reacted in the current crisis. However, there was certainly SOMETHING to react to and they are by no means totally to blame for the current situation. Neither are they totally innocent.
It seems to me that there are too many followers of the Muslim faith who support (or at least do not criticise) the actions of other so-called Muslims, just because they call themselves Muslims. To me, there is nothing "Muslim" about blowing up an airplane, shooting poeple with AK-47s, or lobbing rockets into populated areas. These people are terrorists, nothing more, and they don't deserve anybody's support.
Edited to say "Wow this thread turned into something special (when it got to the sprouts bit
). Moses truly is a crackpot by the way 
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
But the allied forces aren't going off and killing Muslims offensively, or with evil motives (notwithstanding the ulterior motives of the government)
The US/UK forces generally don't kill out of hatred. In fact if they weren't there the Muslims do a pretty good job killing each other.
The US/UK forces generally don't kill out of hatred. In fact if they weren't there the Muslims do a pretty good job killing each other.
Arguably, the British Govenrment is, however, killing [insert whoever is not flavour of the month] offensively.
I'm not for one minute saying its right, but I can understand why they are doing it.
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Pretty low whoever did that, there's arguing and being troll but that's just being a wnaker.
thanks kiwi, i appreciate that
, that really hurt me, attacking someones child like that, i hope the c;unt who did that looses his manhood and dies of cancer, it shows how low they can go and what kind of scumbags they rcheers kiwi
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Originally Posted by Diablo
Christ, are you all still at it?
ANYONE who knows Glasgow will know that a Muslim who's mates are both catholic and protestant is about as far rom being either racist or a bigot as you could hope to get.
There is a lot of unhealthy fear and loathing on this thread, and its not coming from the Muslim.
In trying to discredit moses as being some sort of radical terrorrist, all you are doing is giving evidence as to why certain sections of the muslim community hate the ideology of the west so much. Of course, you'll never see that because you are so wrapped up in your own blinkered worlds.
Perhaps if you would think before posting, you would realise that its not moses who is acting the tit here.
No ******* wonder we now have muslim terrorrists active in the UK. And no ******* wonder they base themselves in England.
Apparently 75 % of "spectator" readers polled (presumably, again, English, felt that the UK's foreign policy was not tough enough, and that we were at war with the terrorists.
Clearly 75% are a representative cross section of just how dumb people are in general.
You can't go pissing on someone elses parade and not expect backlash. Whether its right or wrong to go pissing in the first palce is irrelevant as to whether the backlash will occur.
The sooner people start to wake up to that the better.
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ANYONE who knows Glasgow will know that a Muslim who's mates are both catholic and protestant is about as far rom being either racist or a bigot as you could hope to get.
There is a lot of unhealthy fear and loathing on this thread, and its not coming from the Muslim.
In trying to discredit moses as being some sort of radical terrorrist, all you are doing is giving evidence as to why certain sections of the muslim community hate the ideology of the west so much. Of course, you'll never see that because you are so wrapped up in your own blinkered worlds.
Perhaps if you would think before posting, you would realise that its not moses who is acting the tit here.
No ******* wonder we now have muslim terrorrists active in the UK. And no ******* wonder they base themselves in England.
Apparently 75 % of "spectator" readers polled (presumably, again, English, felt that the UK's foreign policy was not tough enough, and that we were at war with the terrorists.
Clearly 75% are a representative cross section of just how dumb people are in general.
You can't go pissing on someone elses parade and not expect backlash. Whether its right or wrong to go pissing in the first palce is irrelevant as to whether the backlash will occur.
The sooner people start to wake up to that the better.
D
(White, Scottish, hetrosexual, Christian (Protestant) and proud of all of that who thought he was "intollerant" until reading some of the ****e spouted on here)
thanks diablo, i woz so hurt with my daughters picture used like that and reading your post has made me feel better, God bless u bros, we need more people like yourself in the world, i appreciate it bud
i feel so fecking hurt, i can take anything thrown at me, not my lil baby , she is my heart, if i find out who it woz, i wish i can get his address and i swear i will teach him a lesson like no other
thanks alot mate, i owe u one
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Originally Posted by moses
thanks diablo, i woz so hurt with my daughters picture used like that and reading your post has made me feel better, God bless u bros, we need more people like yourself in the world, i appreciate it bud
i feel so fecking hurt, i can take anything thrown at me, not my lil baby , she is my heart, if i find out who it woz, i wish i can get his address and i swear i will teach him a lesson like no other
thanks alot mate, i owe u one
i feel so fecking hurt, i can take anything thrown at me, not my lil baby , she is my heart, if i find out who it woz, i wish i can get his address and i swear i will teach him a lesson like no other
thanks alot mate, i owe u one
There's a few on here who would do that - they like their photoshop.
Doesn't take much to work out who it would be - I can think of 3 or 4 for a start..
Maybe fire an email of to Shaun or Sammy - they'l have the IP address for gripper and can cross reference it.
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I'm all for that as well............. I think you're both a couple of *****, but that photoshop was OTT, and whoever did create & post it should be very ashamed by it.......
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
I'm all for that as well............. I think you're both a couple of *****, but that photoshop was OTT, and whoever did create & post it should be very ashamed by it.......
You're getting soft in your old age Its only a guess, of course, but I'm pretty sure who it was. Names and photographs can be had without too much difficulty moses, if required.
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So he can react violently to someone knocking up a photoshopped pic as a joke?
Would that really be appropriate, no I don't think so, Moses - cancel the keyboard warrior talk, not only does it sound ridiculous but it doesn't exactly fit in with your peace loving claims.
Not me by the way before you exact some meaningless violent revenge on me.
As for the talk yesterday about me not seeing past colour and muslim names well thats nonsense, none of my posts have been racist, I have only picked on what was said because it was a religious racist rant, the persons religion who was making it had no bearing on my comments.
Would that really be appropriate, no I don't think so, Moses - cancel the keyboard warrior talk, not only does it sound ridiculous but it doesn't exactly fit in with your peace loving claims.
Not me by the way before you exact some meaningless violent revenge on me.
As for the talk yesterday about me not seeing past colour and muslim names well thats nonsense, none of my posts have been racist, I have only picked on what was said because it was a religious racist rant, the persons religion who was making it had no bearing on my comments.
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
I'm all for that as well............. I think you're both a couple of *****, but that photoshop was OTT, and whoever did create & post it should be very ashamed by it.......
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Originally Posted by _RIP_
With that comment you'd be as well wearing a sign saying, 'yes I did it' or 'yes I agree with it'. Just ashamed?
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But moses thinks suicide bombers are the defenders of his religion and in the frontline against the evil zionists. He asks god to bless them regularly. Why would he be upset if his daughter became one ?!
Or are sucide bombers OK - so long as its somewhere else ?
Or are sucide bombers OK - so long as its somewhere else ?
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Originally Posted by dsmith
But moses thinks suicide bombers are the defenders of his religion and in the frontline against the evil zionists. He asks god to bless them regularly. Why would he be upset if his daughter became one ?!
Or are sucide bombers OK - so long as its somewhere else ?
Or are sucide bombers OK - so long as its somewhere else ?
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
But the allied forces aren't going off and killing Muslims offensively, or with evil motives (notwithstanding the ulterior motives of the government)
The US/UK forces generally don't kill out of hatred. In fact if they weren't there the Muslims do a pretty good job killing each other.
The US/UK forces generally don't kill out of hatred. In fact if they weren't there the Muslims do a pretty good job killing each other.
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Originally Posted by Lucifer
Be careful, your name will be on Diablo's list
Some say.....
His poos are white
...and that when you meet him, he will sniff your genitals. 
All we know is..... he's called....
The Dogman.
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Originally Posted by Scooby.Newbie
I never read that at all, I read that he still did not agree with what they stand for but was humble enough to put his differences aside to agree that some tactics are a little too low on a public forum where peoples feelings are real about what they hold dear, but thats just my interpretation.
No, the word ashamed, look, no really look.
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Some say.....
His poos are white
...and that when you meet him, he will sniff your genitals. All we know is..... he's called....
The Dogman.
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Hi moses
The photo crap was not on. Anyone who thinks it was funny or acceptable are just a waste of breath. Difficult to describe how low they are.
As I've said before I don't agree with a some of what you say and the fact that you support the 'tic is deplorable But hey' it's not a perfect world.
Up the Gers!!!!!
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The photo crap was not on. Anyone who thinks it was funny or acceptable are just a waste of breath. Difficult to describe how low they are.
As I've said before I don't agree with a some of what you say and the fact that you support the 'tic is deplorable
But hey' it's not a perfect world.Up the Gers!!!!!
Alas
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Originally Posted by _RIP_
and pause
No, the word ashamed, look, no really look.
No, the word ashamed, look, no really look.
You ****.......... and pause........... and you're still a ****......
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Originally Posted by moses
plz no trolling, this is a question to the sensible people plz
the question is
lads, if a british born muslim see's injustice, but goes to a different country, lets say palestine or afghanistan or chechnya and fights against destruction, if he is caught, they will call him a terrorist and lock him up
but if a british born jew, whos parents and grandparents were jewish too and have nothing to do with israel only that its a jewish state so they can go their for hols, if he can join the idf an israeli army not british and commit atrocities and kill innocent lebanese or palestinians
how come thats allowed and he aint even an israel but a brit, born here
i dont understand that, why the double standards, also we have ex army fighters the british army ones who go to the african states and get paid to be mercenaries and kill people, innocent or bad
they r allowed and only difference is, they do it for money and the muslim youth see atrocities happening against the muslims and r doing it for justice and dont get paid for it, rather do it for what they stand for
plz explain, why the double standards
cheers
the question is
lads, if a british born muslim see's injustice, but goes to a different country, lets say palestine or afghanistan or chechnya and fights against destruction, if he is caught, they will call him a terrorist and lock him up
but if a british born jew, whos parents and grandparents were jewish too and have nothing to do with israel only that its a jewish state so they can go their for hols, if he can join the idf an israeli army not british and commit atrocities and kill innocent lebanese or palestinians
how come thats allowed and he aint even an israel but a brit, born here
i dont understand that, why the double standards, also we have ex army fighters the british army ones who go to the african states and get paid to be mercenaries and kill people, innocent or bad
they r allowed and only difference is, they do it for money and the muslim youth see atrocities happening against the muslims and r doing it for justice and dont get paid for it, rather do it for what they stand for
plz explain, why the double standards
cheers
the hoops are pure ****e now O'Neill has gone.
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