Dracoro

Best security is the unknown ones. Once popular, thieves find it worthwhile figuring a way around it.

Basically, if everyones getting device X then it's not gonna be good for long


Lock the car, alarm it, don't leave valuables on display etc. Do what you can but you aren't gonna stop the pro thief. That's why you have insurance. Claim and get another car.

RobinSherwood

Hi Guys,

Well I got a call from Trackstar yesterday, the cheeky little ******* have been using the SIM card from the tracker to make calls on a mobile! So we will have to see if they have called any numbers that are traceable, in which case apparently the police will take action.

johnfelstead - I agree the security is basically there to stop cars without passes getting in. However the WR1 was parked approx 100m from the booth, I simply don't believe he didn't hear anything when they broke the window (at which point the alarm must have gone off). In the time the car was taken between 4pm and 5pm testing had finished so things were pretty quiet. And guess what the same lazy .... wouldn't let me in on Saturday morning even though he knew already my Pit/Paddock pass had been stolen with the car. He made me wait half an hour whilst someone went and got me one - to say I was not particularly impressed would be a masterpiece of understatement.

Which brings me on to:-

tmo - Yes this was the word going round the paddock, apparently several high value/performance cars have gone missing from Donington recently. I was told in the last 10 days a brand new Porsche went missing as well. One of our engineers who has been around a long time and knows 'everybody' heard that the rumour is someone there is doing exactly that.

Ironically he also heard that the circuit managers were annoyed that I had posted about my loss on the internet in case it hurt ticket sales!

Daz1121 - No I don't race myself, I have accidentally found myself managing the UK's youngest single seat racing driver (when he raced for the first time at Brands in March he was only 15 1/2 and had only ever competed at 7 MSA kart meetings prior to that!). He races in the Formula BMW UK Championship, so races against the likes of Nigel Mansell's two sons Leo and Greg. If you want to know more take a look at http://wwwtomdunstan.co.uk

Will keep everyone updated when there is more news re the car theft.

Kind regards,

Robin

tmo

they are probably sat up at the services waiting for the calls to come in !!

HOWY

Well if they are angry let them do something about improving security, I expect one has to pay quite a bit to get in?

Best car park security I ever experienced was at this place http://www.army.mod.uk/royalsignalsmuseum/index.htm

If you break the rules you may get shot!

RobinSherwood

Well yes registration for the Championship which at the end of the day pays for all that kind of thing is £**,000

Regards,

Robin

stevie_mc

Absolutely gutted for you Robin

Just out of interest what are Trackstar saying about it ? , Is there any sort of comeback with them as the system failed to do what it's supposed to.

Hope you get sorted out

Stevie mc

The Trooper 1815

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CS Gas pellets.
Switch off, put CS pellet inside the lighter socket and push in the lighter. Scote nicks car and ten seconds later car is filled with CS. Car stops!!!!
Army Be The Best!!!!!! Wear a Vest!!!

simpsons !

Make a note, Tesco shopping trip Bread, Milk, Cheese, CS gas pellets.

M444GY

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BUMMER ! wouldnt u like to caatch the little *******s . happened in broad daylight aswell

The Trooper 1815

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Dried chillies work just as well, but here you go

www.sabrered.com

Ahhhhh! Democracy

RobinSherwood

Hi there,

Trackstar are saying the tracker must have been disabled before the car was moved as they did not receive any signal at all from it.

They take no responsibility.......

I will be writing a letter as it seems faintly ridiculous that they only had to remove one piece of trim to get at it. This means they must have had a pretty good idea where it would be which surely defeats the object of the exercise!

Otherwise no further news. Got a meeting with the loss adjuster on Monday morning so fingers crossed.

Kind regards,

Robin

Beef

The idea is not to make your car unstealable, the the idea is to make it less desireable/harder to steal than someone else's car.

Daz1121

Robin, hope you can get a good agreed payout from the loss adjuster and they give you the type of value back for the true replacement value of the car from a main dealer.
Have heard of Trackers being bypassed and deactivated before. The insurance companies still payout but take the matter further with the tracker supplier and installation company.

phil_wrx

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i had an ace idea of sewing the tracker in side the upholstery top place to hide it :P

nik52wrx

I sort of agree with you but the tracker doesn't really make the car harder to steal it is supposed to help the plod catch the crooks and retrieve the car quickly ie before its stripped or out of the country in a container.
I bet there isn't a car on the planet thieves couldn't take if they wanted it.
Cat 1 alarm/immobilisers are supposed to stop them....NOT!
Nik.

dave_sw1

silly question but where is the HT lead on an STI, I am getting one in sept, and i often go to tracks and other places where this seems to happen, is it still possible to remove the HT lead on modern cars, i'd like to see the thief that carries one with him.

RobinSherwood

Hi there,

As the 'victim' in this case I have to be honest and say even in the future I really can't see myself scrabbling around in the engine bay to remove the HT lead or similar whenever I park up (at a circuit or anywhere else). In real life it just wouldn't be practical - lots of my friends thought I was obsessive as I always ask is their 'safe' parking whenever we go anywhere - if I started doing this in the future they would probably call for the men in white coats!

Still no further news to report about the car.

Kind regards,

Robin

little'un

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really sorry to hear about this

Nice to know that what you are paying for works then - next time ask them for an empty box and just burn the money

Dave T-S

It might shock you to know that insurance is not a dustbin, but exists to put people in the same position they were in before a loss.
If people bothered to read their proposal/policy wording in most cases it states that people should take reasonable care to safeguard their property, and the primary responsibility rests with the policyholder.

Anyone that gets out of the car when two strangers arrrive to road test it and leaves the keys in with it running is, to be honest, not awfully intelligent and has just fallen for the oldest trick in the book. Why should the insurer have to pay for their stupidity/lack of responsibility?

IMHO

And what you are suggesting re the mugging is fraud.

Note: this is not criticising Robin in any way

RobinSherwood

And thankfully I have BOTH sets of keys to give my insurance company so this will not be an issue with the theft of my WR1.

I have an appointment with the claims investigator 8.15 on Monday morning so fingers crossed my claim will get sorted out after that.

Kind regards,

Robin

C2forWRX

good luck man

Dave T-S

Robin

Yep, good luck

Scoob99

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Good Luck Robin Hope it all turns out well
Cheers
Colin

WRX_Rich

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hope this dosn't sound bad , but the tracker not working must be a god send

i wouldn't want the car back yes the bastar*s have won but at least you don't have to put up with a car that is in a state and look at a smirmy grin on the insurance companys face

HOWY

Sounds like this is a major flaw in tracker surely if the alarm goes off it should send a signal they could then phone the owner to check if it is a false alarm or not. This might then improve the chances of catching them
assuming they don't have a phone jammer
the alternative might be to fit a modified version of the smokecloak http://www.smokecloak.com/splash/

salsa-king

robin, no news on the car then??

was there any other alarm on the car, like one that stuts offthe fuel after a couple of miles??

I remember back in 2000 when i went to dono track day a RB5 was stolen about the same time in the day as yours!!!! this ws taken off pit lane too!!!!

anyone remember that too???

Phil

Puff The Magic Wagon!

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Yes I do having just had a pax ride in it - he got it back though.

Prob about Trackstars is that they are not connected to the alarm. It is something easy to do and there are enough things around now that you can make it done.

Also PTMW! had one and after the engine blew @ Brands in 2003, I was recovered to SS in Basildon. It took until the A13 before I got a phone call to say that something was wrong - that was 45 minutes and 20 miles...

vessy

I guess you just have to be selective about when you do something like this, obviously not every time you park the car but in a high risk area or if your leaving the car for a long time. I disconnect the Cam sensor (push plug slightly back on so visually looks connected) if i'm parked in a dodgy area or traveling away, most thiefs wouldn't have the time to look into why the engine won't go, if they did then my guess is they would be looking for a 2nd imobiliser, not an engine sensor.

davedipster

Just get a dipol fitted and use it all the time. Easy to use and a right pain to Circumvent.

dipster

EdwardH

I'd agree with Dipster.

Had a Barrier Deadlock on my first Scoob and a Dipol on the current one.

Good kit, but keep the key seperate from the ignition keys