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29 July 2006, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by logiclee
Yes it is partly Thatchers fault we are in the current situaton.
Her policies rigged the electricity market in favour of gas generation, this was done to make coal generation look expensive so she could close down the mines. With these policies she managed to rid the Tories of one of their greatest enemies.
But this policy has meant the UK's natural gas reserves have been used up for electricity generation. If the generation market had been fair during the 80's and 90's, the "Dash for Gas" wouldn't have happened and we would have nearly 15 years of natural gas left. The market was evened up some years ago but it's been too little too late. The cheapest way to generate electricity in the UK is though coal burn, during last winter 50% of electricty generation was done from coal fired stations. Even so 70% of this coal was supplied from abroad at a far higher cost than coal mined in the UK.
As it is we will have to get used to bidding against other countries for fuel so energy prices are not going to get cheaper.
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Her policies rigged the electricity market in favour of gas generation, this was done to make coal generation look expensive so she could close down the mines. With these policies she managed to rid the Tories of one of their greatest enemies.
But this policy has meant the UK's natural gas reserves have been used up for electricity generation. If the generation market had been fair during the 80's and 90's, the "Dash for Gas" wouldn't have happened and we would have nearly 15 years of natural gas left. The market was evened up some years ago but it's been too little too late. The cheapest way to generate electricity in the UK is though coal burn, during last winter 50% of electricty generation was done from coal fired stations. Even so 70% of this coal was supplied from abroad at a far higher cost than coal mined in the UK.
As it is we will have to get used to bidding against other countries for fuel so energy prices are not going to get cheaper.
Cheers
Lee
Lee,
Don't you think as well though that the miners were their own worst enemy?
Things may have been different if Scargill wasnt their leader.
Chip
29 July 2006, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Lee,
Don't you think as well though that the miners were their own worst enemy?
Things may have been different if Scargill wasnt their leader.
Chip
Don't you think as well though that the miners were their own worst enemy?
Things may have been different if Scargill wasnt their leader.
Chip
There has also been some very bad management of the UK's coal industry since privatisation which has left us where we are today.
Cheers
Lee
29 July 2006, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by logiclee
There are only six large scale mines left in the UK and the total output is about a third of current coal burn.
One of my customers had a fuel bill last year of over £2 million up 35% on the year previous. Its killing opencast mining.
29 July 2006, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sti-04!!
There is more than six. Though with the increasing fuel price, there wont be many left.
One of my customers had a fuel bill last year of over £2 million up 35% on the year previous. Its killing opencast mining.
One of my customers had a fuel bill last year of over £2 million up 35% on the year previous. Its killing opencast mining.
All that's left now is Kellingly, Maltby, Welbeck, Thoresby, Daw Mill and Harworth although Harworth is being mothballed soon awaiting investment. There are some very small private mines dotted around tthe country that produce small amouts of coal but nothing significant for the UK's electricity generation.
A couple of projects are commong through, one in Scotland and one in Wales as well as the funding for Hatfield that is being financed by the Russians.
The electricity bill for a large mine can be over £5million a year, that's small change though a coal face kit up for somewhere like Daw Mill can top £200million.
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Lee
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29 July 2006, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Lee,
Don't you think as well though that the miners were their own worst enemy?
Things may have been different if Scargill wasnt their leader.
Chip
Don't you think as well though that the miners were their own worst enemy?
Things may have been different if Scargill wasnt their leader.
Chip
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