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Old 18 May 2006, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
If any panel does not line up then its had work, maybe accident.

Take a pen along with you - slide in into the space between panels, hold at one position along the pen and run it around the space between panels.

The pen will tighten, or stick, or go loose .... if work has been done.

Remember these cars come off the production line perfect in fit and finish - any deviation requires answers.

But, if its a car for a few £1000 you are going to expect 'some' inperfections.

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Bloody good idea that Pete
Old 19 May 2006, 06:54 PM
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well,ive spoken to him, and as was suggested i said i would only be prepared to pay him £4300 not the £4750 he wants, he came back with £4400 its mine, now, should i be chuffed he`s lowered price and be thankful he sees it from my point of view, or should i be paranoid and suspect the worst as he`s so kean to let it go cheap ?!?!?!?!?

hmmmmmmm
Old 19 May 2006, 07:03 PM
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Some of the Docs he has......1 for recon box ftted, other for antifreeze job and other of all docs....not much for 80k though










Old 19 May 2006, 07:34 PM
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OH MY GOD!!!!!

He's got a Rolling Road Print-out there!!!

That means he's a **** boy racer!!!!!!!

Think, stop, think again!!

Anyone who does poxy chavvie rolling-road shootouts are also the worlds biggest losers!!

Just IMHO of course!

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Old 19 May 2006, 10:01 PM
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cool

quiet tonight, lets hope it all comes out rosey when i go see it..

wish me luck.......
Old 20 May 2006, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
If any panel does not line up then its had work, maybe accident.

....

Remember these cars come off the production line perfect in fit and finish - any deviation requires answers.

....

Pete
I work for a first tier supplier to the automotive business and have done a lot of work on car production lines in the past. Believe me cars do not come of the production line perfect.

I've seen filler being used on one production line before spraying to cover accidental damage......
Old 20 May 2006, 06:37 AM
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thats what they do so we can haggle when buying LOL

its not alot of history tho,he cant find anymore.

cheers all......
Old 20 May 2006, 08:33 AM
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I'd be a little suspicious - he has a rolling road printout, and has shagged a gearbox - does sound like maybe its been raced/dragged or seen track action.

At £4000 it would be cheap enough as you can keep a budget of £1000 for any other work that needs doing ( in fact, if I bought it first thing I would do is get it in for a major service with cambelts as you dont know the history of the car - its only 10K early, and wont hurt ! ), and £5K would still be a good price.
Old 20 May 2006, 11:15 AM
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hmm,just got my mate to phone up, to check if info he told me was kocha,and to him he said engine has been reconditioned, didnt say that to me when i asked !!!

im getting fed up now of all these up/downs/up/downs of info for god sake, im just gonna stick to a vaux from now on !!!!
Old 20 May 2006, 12:42 PM
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Just walk away - sounds like you've found the reason the car is cheap, and hasnt sold previously ( will bet you anything the seller has had it advertised for more before now ).

If its needed a new gearbox and engine, it sounds like its been either driven hard, or not maintained properly - who knows what other surprises could be lurking ??

There are good classics out there, but there are also an awful lot of sheds and cars with dodgy pasts - I looked at a lot before I bought, and all the cheaper ones were bad in one way or another, spend a bit more and you'll find much better cars available.
Old 20 May 2006, 01:51 PM
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Just general advice here, so take it how you want, but in my experience, if something feels wrong, it usually IS wrong. The amount of times I've ignored my gut instinct and bought a money pit...
Old 20 May 2006, 01:57 PM
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The GOLDEN RULE of buying a car, or house, or ANYTHING else for that matter:-

'Things are cheap for a reason ...... find the reason and decide if you can live with it'

OR just don't bother chasing that bargain ... pay the proper price for a proper car and you will have done yourself the biggest favour you can.

Another BIG TIP - if you find yourself talking about how much a car is worth, then you haven't found the right one ....... there is NEVER any need to think about money if the right car appears (it will be the right car at the right money, and you will know it!)

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Old 20 May 2006, 02:03 PM
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devils advocate....

I bought a new engine and box for my car because I want to sell it and thought i would struggle with 130k miles on the clock, now this isnt the car that is being discussed, but there are genuine reasons why gearboxes and engines get changed, the car's running gear now has a healthy 38k miles on it with documented proof of the new lump/box from a well known/respected supplier.
It can have genuine reasons attached
Old 20 May 2006, 04:04 PM
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if the inside side paint of the boot or under bonnet are the same colour as the outside its had a smack easy way to tell
Old 20 May 2006, 07:01 PM
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my boot has a miss match too. and as fare as i no its not been in a bump.
and ive seen many others like this to. ive fixed the problem sins this picture by moving the lock further down. it now lines up perfect now.

Old 20 May 2006, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
devils advocate....

I bought a new engine and box for my car because I want to sell it and thought i would struggle with 130k miles on the clock, now this isnt the car that is being discussed, but there are genuine reasons why gearboxes and engines get changed, the car's running gear now has a healthy 38k miles on it with documented proof of the new lump/box from a well known/respected supplier.
It can have genuine reasons attached
Strange ...... I would never change a perfectly good engine and gearbox after a mere 130k miles, just to make it easier to sell?????

What would be the the cost of a good quality re-con engine and gearbox? £6000??? Price of a 130k miles Scooby? £3000??? Price of same car with above Engine and Gearbox? £4000??? therefore losing £2000??? Nah, simply doesn't make sense.

The reason engines and gearboxes get changed is because they are shagged - NEVER to make it a better buy for a punter!!

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Old 21 May 2006, 03:03 PM
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engines and gearboxes can be had for a lot less than that, from very reputable vendors Pete.
Normally I am an advocate of your postings, in this instance we shall have to agree to disagree
Old 21 May 2006, 03:24 PM
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Measuring panal gaps is all fine and dandy just remember it's an old car with a fair bit of use...door hinges wear, especially driver's. So the door will drop a few thou, giving uneven gaps.

Same goes for boot, especially if it's been rammed full of junk and forced shut from one side. Or it could be recified simply by having a fiddle with the rubber stops in the shut area.

Just bear that in mind
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