SCOOBY BEEN KILLED :-(
02 April 2006, 10:22 PM
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hi, got a few pics of both cars and the 205 had minor damage to driver front where as the scoobs boot and rear wing is caved right in, had a look underneath and it looks like the chassis is bent a bit but i`m no expert.
got up friday morning and neck was rather stiff and head felt like i`d been hit in the back of it with a cricket bat, so yes i`ll be claiming for that too, been to hospital and my doc too who said it would get worse too over the next ten days
all the witnesses drove off so he aint got no evidence just as well as me.
dunno if i want the scoob back repaired though just have to see what insurance want to do, but whatever i`ll be getting another scoob and swap all the goodies i`ve put on it!!!
got up friday morning and neck was rather stiff and head felt like i`d been hit in the back of it with a cricket bat, so yes i`ll be claiming for that too, been to hospital and my doc too who said it would get worse too over the next ten days
all the witnesses drove off so he aint got no evidence just as well as me.
dunno if i want the scoob back repaired though just have to see what insurance want to do, but whatever i`ll be getting another scoob and swap all the goodies i`ve put on it!!!
03 April 2006, 11:48 AM
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This is a difficult question, IMHO if you are overtaking another car you have a responsibility to do so safely, in other words you can't simply get past him and cut back in sharply leaving perhaps 6-10 feet gap then hit the brakes and expect the driver behind to react in time. On the other had if you have overtaken the car, left a gap and then pulled back over nice and slowly(whilst indicating!) then I think the driver behind should have been able to brake in time to avoid the collision.
As some have said above, without all the facts it is difficult to judge, but contrary to some views an arbitrator (insurance or Court) would not simply suggest that the car in front is always in the right. He would probably ask the same questions as I have?
As some have said above, without all the facts it is difficult to judge, but contrary to some views an arbitrator (insurance or Court) would not simply suggest that the car in front is always in the right. He would probably ask the same questions as I have?
03 April 2006, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ewanrw
If you were rear ended, it is their fault as it is their responsibility to ensure they have enough room to stop.
Basic Highway Code stuff.
Basic Highway Code stuff.
Someone tried to overtake you, either maintain a constant speed or slow down to AID the driver overtaking ensuring his/her manoeuvre is performed in a safe manner. Assuming the driver saw the Subaru overtaking why did he speed up?
So, in the eyes of the Police the Subaru driver was not at fault. I have taken my advanced driving test hence why I support the above being overtake “zoom” paradigm.
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03 April 2006, 02:52 PM
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What are some of you on about ? Police ? didnt give him the right to over take ? and loads of other crap. If its on a road and safe and legal to do so he every right to overtake ! we all do. Also this isnt a criminal trial the police wont give a toss about mitigating circumstances the bottom line is he was behind and went up his **** when he was in the positon of a clear forward vision and should be anticipating a bloody junction or any other possible scenario which may cause you to brake (unless of course the skid marks are 300ft long and both were doing over a ton which I doubt if it was a pug)
The only thing the police will say is thats its knock for knock and let the insurance companies sort it out.
All insurance company's tell you not to admit liability they will all look to wangle out of paying out if at all possible.
This guys got no worries . He was in front got hit up ****, not to blame, end of.
The only thing the police will say is thats its knock for knock and let the insurance companies sort it out.
All insurance company's tell you not to admit liability they will all look to wangle out of paying out if at all possible.
This guys got no worries . He was in front got hit up ****, not to blame, end of.
03 April 2006, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by N*UFO
Just to tidy this up mr EVO...... I was a passenger in a car that had a low speed head on on a silge track country road, The wife was driving her car and we were hit buy a "boy racer" in an escort ,she had pulled over to the side but he was carrying too much speed and locked up into us.......
My wife did have a shoulder injury and rightly so got a very nice settlement from his insurance, how ever at the time i was not injured....
I was then hounded by legal types to persue a claim, when i said i was not injured they said well go and see our doctor anyway, to cut a long story short, posh private hospital, free drinks,promt and very pleasent service...and a doctor trying to find something wrong with me!
He did in the end conclude that i had soft flesh wounds(a bruse from the seat belt) resulting from the head on..... and they settled out of court for......
£1600,
Just my story............................................. ...
If it's someone elses fault take the cu*ts for every penny!
And FAO EVO i earn 40k a year and work ******* hard for it, but something for nothing is a bonus ,when you have the law on your side....
My wife did have a shoulder injury and rightly so got a very nice settlement from his insurance, how ever at the time i was not injured....
I was then hounded by legal types to persue a claim, when i said i was not injured they said well go and see our doctor anyway, to cut a long story short, posh private hospital, free drinks,promt and very pleasent service...and a doctor trying to find something wrong with me!
He did in the end conclude that i had soft flesh wounds(a bruse from the seat belt) resulting from the head on..... and they settled out of court for......
£1600,
Just my story............................................. ...
If it's someone elses fault take the cu*ts for every penny!
And FAO EVO i earn 40k a year and work ******* hard for it, but something for nothing is a bonus ,when you have the law on your side....
right so let me get this right....
Your wife had injuries, she made a compensation claim, probably loss of earnings injuries sustained... am i right??? I think i got that one. She was compesated for her losses and i really dont dissagree with you there...#
Can i ask you this...
Just what was it exactly that you needed compensating for????
Beacouse the way i see it, you did not want to make a claim until you were hounded by companies that also wanted to profit out of somebody elses mistake.
Granted, the "boy racer" as you put it was at fault. Im sure he never set out to crash, or are you so narrow minded you actualy think he did. Mistakes happen mate. Im sure you have made one or two in your life time.
Just how long after the accident did you go to this "posh private hospital"?
My wife did have a shoulder injury and rightly so got a very nice settlement from his insurance, how ever at the time i was not injured....
I was then hounded by legal types to persue a claim, when i said i was not injured they said well go and see our doctor anyway, to cut a long story short, posh private hospital, free drinks,promt and very pleasent service...and a doctor trying to find something wrong with me!
He did in the end conclude that i had soft flesh wounds(a bruse from the seat belt) resulting from the head on..... and they settled out of court for......
I was then hounded by legal types to persue a claim, when i said i was not injured they said well go and see our doctor anyway, to cut a long story short, posh private hospital, free drinks,promt and very pleasent service...and a doctor trying to find something wrong with me!
He did in the end conclude that i had soft flesh wounds(a bruse from the seat belt) resulting from the head on..... and they settled out of court for......
You also went to a professional which had a vested interest in your injuries, by that i mean, that if he found nothing, he wouldnt get payed for the time they charge so highly for, i know as i have private healthcare. If you had real concerns for your well being, would it not have been sensible to got to the doctors afterwards to be checked out, when bruising from the seatbelt would have been clearly visable??? Im not medicle expert, but i was lead to believe that whiplash is soft tissue damage and no medical practicioner is going to state that a pacient DOES NOT have whiplash. Its one of those none provable injuries, hence the reason so many people get away with it.
If it's someone elses fault take the cu*ts for every penny!
Its not really that hard to understand, Its us at the end of the day who pay for it, do you really think its coming out og the insurance companies pocket.....
I do hope that one day, someone takes you for all they can get. Than maybe, theres a slim chance you will see my point.
John
04 April 2006, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BoroWRX
Well I have one thing to say , of course it was his fault , he was driving a Pug. end of story. now he may have to get a real car.
nothing wrong with the 205 mate, al agree with you that most of the pug range is crap, but all the rallye series, 106 and 306, the 205 and i believe there is a new little pug coming out with a 2ltr turbo engine in again, not a caraven pulling machine, but something a little sporty this time....
some not bad cars there lol
04 April 2006, 01:09 AM
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Similar to above if you broke the speed limit and then pulled infront without giving the other guy a reasonable stopping distance then his insurance will fight it. Like if you overtook then pulled in 8ft infront of him and braked you are at fault for ruining his braking distance since he had a clear road before you took it. The "he ran into my back and its his fault" goes out of the window when an overtake is concerned. Ive been there!
04 April 2006, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by thedeester1
Similar to above if you broke the speed limit and then pulled infront without giving the other guy a reasonable stopping distance then his insurance will fight it. Like if you overtook then pulled in 8ft infront of him and braked you are at fault for ruining his braking distance since he had a clear road before you took it. The "he ran into my back and its his fault" goes out of the window when an overtake is concerned. Ive been there!
04 April 2006, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
But rightly or wrongly, its up to the guy in the 205 to prove that, without an independant wittness its going to be extremly hard.
04 April 2006, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
right so let me get this right....
Your wife had injuries, she made a compensation claim, probably loss of earnings injuries sustained... am i right??? I think i got that one. She was compesated for her losses and i really dont dissagree with you there...#
Can i ask you this...
Just what was it exactly that you needed compensating for????
Beacouse the way i see it, you did not want to make a claim until you were hounded by companies that also wanted to profit out of somebody elses mistake.
Granted, the "boy racer" as you put it was at fault. Im sure he never set out to crash, or are you so narrow minded you actualy think he did. Mistakes happen mate. Im sure you have made one or two in your life time.
Just how long after the accident did you go to this "posh private hospital"?
Reading that, im guessing it was quite a while, giving there was a settlemant agreed, which takes time as we all know.
You also went to a professional which had a vested interest in your injuries, by that i mean, that if he found nothing, he wouldnt get payed for the time they charge so highly for, i know as i have private healthcare. If you had real concerns for your well being, would it not have been sensible to got to the doctors afterwards to be checked out, when bruising from the seatbelt would have been clearly visable??? Im not medicle expert, but i was lead to believe that whiplash is soft tissue damage and no medical practicioner is going to state that a pacient DOES NOT have whiplash. Its one of those none provable injuries, hence the reason so many people get away with it.
That just about sums your argument up. You quite clearly stated in your post there that at the time you were not injured. You moraly had no claim.
Its not really that hard to understand, Its us at the end of the day who pay for it, do you really think its coming out og the insurance companies pocket.....
I do hope that one day, someone takes you for all they can get. Than maybe, theres a slim chance you will see my point.
John
Your wife had injuries, she made a compensation claim, probably loss of earnings injuries sustained... am i right??? I think i got that one. She was compesated for her losses and i really dont dissagree with you there...#
Can i ask you this...
Just what was it exactly that you needed compensating for????
Beacouse the way i see it, you did not want to make a claim until you were hounded by companies that also wanted to profit out of somebody elses mistake.
Granted, the "boy racer" as you put it was at fault. Im sure he never set out to crash, or are you so narrow minded you actualy think he did. Mistakes happen mate. Im sure you have made one or two in your life time.
Just how long after the accident did you go to this "posh private hospital"?
Reading that, im guessing it was quite a while, giving there was a settlemant agreed, which takes time as we all know.
You also went to a professional which had a vested interest in your injuries, by that i mean, that if he found nothing, he wouldnt get payed for the time they charge so highly for, i know as i have private healthcare. If you had real concerns for your well being, would it not have been sensible to got to the doctors afterwards to be checked out, when bruising from the seatbelt would have been clearly visable??? Im not medicle expert, but i was lead to believe that whiplash is soft tissue damage and no medical practicioner is going to state that a pacient DOES NOT have whiplash. Its one of those none provable injuries, hence the reason so many people get away with it.
That just about sums your argument up. You quite clearly stated in your post there that at the time you were not injured. You moraly had no claim.
Its not really that hard to understand, Its us at the end of the day who pay for it, do you really think its coming out og the insurance companies pocket.....
I do hope that one day, someone takes you for all they can get. Than maybe, theres a slim chance you will see my point.
John
04 April 2006, 12:34 PM
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It does annoy me this 'claim for everything you can get mentality'.
About 8 years ago my wife was rear ended by a Range Rover, she did actually have whiplash ( car was a crappy Allegro with rubbish seats and no headrests ), and had to have a week off work and wear a brace, take painkillers the full bit - her insurance went through with a compensation claim and she got around £2000 all told.
She had another rear end two years ago ( now well into the 'claim claim claim' society ) - pretty much the same injuries, soft tissue damage, a few sleepless nights, painkillers, neck brace etc... what did she get this time ? £350 !
Also, she said when she went to A&E for the second accident, they were nowhere near as thorough in checking her over - the first time they took X-Rays and a consultant examined her, second time was some junior Dr who had a quick look, wrote a prescription and said 'go to your GP if it gets worse'.
So what now seems to happen is that because of all the false claims and people trying it on, anyone who is genuinely injured in an accident will get a lot less compensation, and runs the risk of the hospital not examining them properly, which with a neck injury could lead to all sorts of problems.
But what am I thinking ??? of course, the idea now is 'fxxk you jack, I'm alright' - as long as the false claimer gets a few quid, who cares if we all pay more insurance, and genuine cases are worse off.
About 8 years ago my wife was rear ended by a Range Rover, she did actually have whiplash ( car was a crappy Allegro with rubbish seats and no headrests ), and had to have a week off work and wear a brace, take painkillers the full bit - her insurance went through with a compensation claim and she got around £2000 all told.
She had another rear end two years ago ( now well into the 'claim claim claim' society ) - pretty much the same injuries, soft tissue damage, a few sleepless nights, painkillers, neck brace etc... what did she get this time ? £350 !
Also, she said when she went to A&E for the second accident, they were nowhere near as thorough in checking her over - the first time they took X-Rays and a consultant examined her, second time was some junior Dr who had a quick look, wrote a prescription and said 'go to your GP if it gets worse'.
So what now seems to happen is that because of all the false claims and people trying it on, anyone who is genuinely injured in an accident will get a lot less compensation, and runs the risk of the hospital not examining them properly, which with a neck injury could lead to all sorts of problems.
But what am I thinking ??? of course, the idea now is 'fxxk you jack, I'm alright' - as long as the false claimer gets a few quid, who cares if we all pay more insurance, and genuine cases are worse off.
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04 April 2006, 01:26 PM
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Not always the rearenders fault.
Approaching a motorway junction from the east, y-shaped where two lanes go left and join the northbound, two split to the right and go southbound. No rain good daytime visibility, etc. We're in lane 2 doing about 60 as the sliproads are bends. Car in lane 1 suddenly realises that he wants to head south and moves towards lane 3, no indicators or anything. We hit him up the ****, gently as no airbag deployment. He is in a hire car and they try to claim loss of income for weeks while repairs are carried out, amounts to £££. Eventual outcome fully in our favour 
despite no independent witnesses.
despite no independent witnesses.
04 April 2006, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Awd Chaddy
Yep, you are right, but my point is that you should never assume the "I'm in front, he's behind" equates to "I'm in the right and he is wrong". There are other factors.
i never assumed, and if it happened to me, i would be in the right as i know i wouldnt overtake close to a junction or a heavy braking point. So from that i would know 100% i would be in the right if someone failed to stop.
Im not pointing the finger and saying that is what happened in this case, i am saying that without the 205 driver having a witness, its going to be very difficult for him to prove the poster was liable for the accident.
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04 April 2006, 07:37 PM
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There are some self rightous twa*ts on here..... It's life for ***** sake get with it or go stick your head in a hole.........
P.S get a life(there is more to it than internet fourms)........LOL
P.S get a life(there is more to it than internet fourms)........LOL
04 April 2006, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by speedking
Approaching a motorway junction from the east, y-shaped where two lanes go left and join the northbound, two split to the right and go southbound. No rain good daytime visibility, etc. We're in lane 2 doing about 60 as the sliproads are bends. Car in lane 1 suddenly realises that he wants to head south and moves towards lane 3, no indicators or anything. We hit him up the ****, gently as no airbag deployment. He is in a hire car and they try to claim loss of income for weeks while repairs are carried out, amounts to £££. Eventual outcome fully in our favour despite no independent witnesses.
despite no independent witnesses.
04 April 2006, 08:28 PM
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Your taking the **** N*UFO man! If you are hurt then fair enough. My old man was rear ended by a dosey old geezer watching the Naval display while driving over the forth road bridge and my old man still has to put a collar on now again due to recurring pain from whiplash and that was about 15 years ago. If it is geniune then yes claim but ambulance chasers P*ss me off and if there wasn't money grabbers willing to listen there would be no ambulance chasers.
04 April 2006, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by N*UFO
There are some self rightous twa*ts on here..... It's life for ***** sake get with it or go stick your head in a hole.........
P.S get a life(there is more to it than internet fourms)........LOL
P.S get a life(there is more to it than internet fourms)........LOL
your not even worth the "mate" i was about to start the post with.
I am with life, and i am fully aware that you cost me money. No matter what way you want to cut it, your plain and simple, a pratt.
Just because many people do it, doesnt make it right.
Oh, i was wondering, that 40K you claim to be on, is that because you choose to have so many kids, get a free house to house them all, claim disability allowences whilst doing fiddle work???? sounds to me like like you are. I bet you even have a disabled badge in your car
Go to the jobcenter, or maybe even that posh hospital you were prattling on about, see if there is such a thing as BRAIN SEEKERS ALLOWENCE
PS, more to life than internet forums that you also use you mean, christ, i bet when they give away free internet access your post count will be in the 10K's in no time
john
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04 April 2006, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOLUTION
your not even worth the "mate" i was about to start the post with.
I am with life, and i am fully aware that you cost me money. No matter what way you want to cut it, your plain and simple, a pratt.
Just because many people do it, doesnt make it right.
Oh, i was wondering, that 40K you claim to be on, is that because you choose to have so many kids, get a free house to house them all, claim disability allowences whilst doing fiddle work???? sounds to me like like you are. I bet you even have a disabled badge in your car
Go to the jobcenter, or maybe even that posh hospital you were prattling on about, see if there is such a thing as BRAIN SEEKERS ALLOWENCE
PS, more to life than internet forums that you also use you mean, christ, i bet when they give away free internet access your post count will be in the 10K's in no time
john
I am with life, and i am fully aware that you cost me money. No matter what way you want to cut it, your plain and simple, a pratt.
Just because many people do it, doesnt make it right.
Oh, i was wondering, that 40K you claim to be on, is that because you choose to have so many kids, get a free house to house them all, claim disability allowences whilst doing fiddle work???? sounds to me like like you are. I bet you even have a disabled badge in your car
Go to the jobcenter, or maybe even that posh hospital you were prattling on about, see if there is such a thing as BRAIN SEEKERS ALLOWENCE
PS, more to life than internet forums that you also use you mean, christ, i bet when they give away free internet access your post count will be in the 10K's in no time
john
05 April 2006, 12:38 AM
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not long been back on here and dont really want to get a name for myself, but, Evolution, i have to agree with you there.
Far to many people today are prepared to lie to get a few quid.
They should make an advert up like the one at the start of the DVD's, peoples attitudes are the same as piracy (sp), its ok to download films and music, but its not ok to steal handbags and ****** purses.....
Far to many people today are prepared to lie to get a few quid.
They should make an advert up like the one at the start of the DVD's, peoples attitudes are the same as piracy (sp), its ok to download films and music, but its not ok to steal handbags and ****** purses.....
05 April 2006, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by N*UFO
There are some self rightous twa*ts on here..... It's life for ***** sake get with it or go stick your head in a hole.........
P.S get a life(there is more to it than internet fourms)........LOL
P.S get a life(there is more to it than internet fourms)........LOL
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