GaryK

ipods rule! itunes is great! Im sorry we all make mistakes but plugging in an ipod into an empty itunes install is something you just do *not* do as you know not to do it, its like putting diesel in your scoob at the pumps, nothing to stop you doing it, you just wouldnt!

ozzy

Something like Anapod manager could have recovered the files. The problem with iTunes is it doesn't store them with decent filenames, so knowing what MP3 is what would take time if you used another recovery bit of software. You could possibly have used something like Tag & Rename to read the ID3 info and rename the tracks (once restored) to something recognisable.

Diagnopstic mode is useful for certain things. You don't need to be a Apple genius to use it and at least it would tell you if the drive was working or something was actually wrong with it. How useful that is depends on what it tells you. It helped me determine the disc was sound in mine and it was the software on it that had screwed up so all I had to do was a simple restore.

JackClark

Just tell iTunes to manage your files, import the whole lot and iTunes will sort them out for you.

wez_sti

Could be worse, could of been some decent dance music like House or something!





Only joking mate, this is one of my worst fears!! Spent hours putting music into iTunes and organizing, i would cry if it went, no doubt!

Sorry dude

Luan Pra bang

Ipods are rubbish in hundreds of different ways. Having had 2 and having to deal with the Sh1tty third rate software (I-tunes) I can honestly say that They are a perfect truimph of marketing ability over reality. THey must be the worst MP3 player on the market interms of number of function,software, useability and reliability abd yet stupid people still buy into the Image and buy them.

Markus

Care to list the hundreds of different ways?

I think you'll find there are far worse MP3 players out there.

The Snug Rhino

i have an ipod and it works without fault. couldnt ask for anything more - + itunes is simple and allows music in any room with a pc (most of them) via my home network............and i back up my files.

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

We have an Ipod and an Iriver, Iriver every time, Ipod stuck in cupboard.

The interface is way better on the Ipod but everything else is inferior.

JackClark

What software came with the Iriver?

Dracoro

Ipods are great in hundreds of different ways. Having had 2 and having to deal with the easy to use software (I-tunes) I can honestly say that they are a perfect truimph of usability and design. THey must be the best MP3 player on the market interms of number of function,software, useability and reliability and yet stupid people still buy other mp3 players just to be 'different' (as they MUST!)

Alan C

You're right. I'm not an expert in Unix. I'm not using temperamental in the unstable sense, as we all know it's a pretty solid platform, I'm using it in the you have to know what you're doing sense. Because if you don't, it's not very forgiving and it doesn't suffer fools at all.

Having a lack of skills is no excuse to leave you with no retreive or escape route... That's a bit like saying I don't have the proper skills to drive my T20, so it will kill me at the first chance it gets.. If I do have an off, then I have an air bag, seat belt, crumple zone, etc etc..... Unix just kills your system, kicks you in the nuts and laughs, no protection, no second chance....

I'll leave that to the 'experts'...

Dracoro

So completely unlike the ipod/itunes then. Even my technophobe g/f can work an ipod & itunes. That's why they are so popular, anyone can figure out how to use them. I let my mum try one a while ago and within minutes she could navigate her way round it and this is someone who STILL can't figure out a vhs and I'm sure has trouble with a microwave

Luan Pra bang

I hate Ipods becuase they are **** and break alot not becuase I need to be different. The sound is also **** and they are designed to force you to continuously spend more money with apple. I can't be arsed to go into all the different issues and flaws with them because I have done it before but clearly only a retard with no actual idea of the capabilities and easy use other mpe3 players offer, or a fashion led numpty would buy an ipod.
Markus has one which kind of backs up my point.

Dracoro

Want a fish with that

Luan Pra bang

What kind of fish

Dracoro

salt and vinegar as well?

STi-Frenchie

Maybe cheese would be a better companion for his whine. I'm on my second iPod (3G hard disk died after dropping it one too many times I suspect) and there is no doubt about it, ipod+itunes is the way to go.

GaryK

Every time I see you post on here its to say ipods are **** blah blah blah, change the record FFS its getting boring.

Alan C

No, exactly like Itunes. The original point of this thread is that Itunes killed the guys collectoin as a default setting. Coupled with an unfortunate PC crash meant the lost his collection...

ozzy

Yep, that's true

It would recover all the files like AYBG.mp3, JUYT.mp3, etc.. I was meaning that if you wanted to store these on the PC with more meaningful names you could use Tag&Rename to do it for you.

Markus

I'm interested about the "force you to spend more money with Apple" side of things. I can understand it from the accessory viewpoint, as you may want a in-wall charger, arm-band and other bits, but once you have those you don't need to buy any more from apple.
If you are referring to the iTunes Music Store then you don't have to use it, there are other places to download music, or, shock horror you can buy a CD and rip it into iTunes.

ozzy

What gets me with Apple is that they don't provide you with the std accessories as part of the price.

With my 4th gen iPod I got:-

Interchangeable Power adapter
USB Cable
Firewire Cable
Dock
Audio Cable (to connect to my HiFi)
Sock cover thingy

My g/f bought a new Video iPod and got:-

USB Cable
Sock cover thingy

Now if she adds what I got to the cost (paying Apple money) the overall iPod price soars. FFS a USB cable is £15 from Apple

OK, she now gets video playback, a bigger screen and a lighter iPod but my capacity is 10Gb larger and the quality of mine feels a lot better - namely the touch controls.

There's obviously **** loads of other accessories, but most consumer items are like that - and that's where they make most of their money.

It annoys me that the value-for-money aspect is still slipping with Apple. You buy a black Video Ipod and they can't even give you black earphones to match

STi-Frenchie

I have a black video ipod and just threw the standard earphones in a drawer.

Still, it could be worse, we could have Micro$oft producing a rival which would only come in one colour to match the blue screen of death.

Apple iPod - reassuringly expensive. I love mine

Luan Pra bang

ITS A THREAD ABOUT IPODS. THIS IS A DISCUSSION FORUM WORK IT OUT.
You like them I think they are total rubbish. My views are based on my own ownership experience. Clealy your views are those of a ****.

out of 1000+ post perhaps 10 are about ipods

Luan Pra bang

[QUOTE=Markus]I'm interested about the "force you to spend more money with Apple" side of things. QUOTE]

Once you have imported your CD collection to I-tunes and your IPOD has broken just out of warranty you then have a choice of Loosing the AAC fromat songs from I-Tunes when you want to change to a better player, Or buying another IPOD that will break again in a years time.THis is the real reason Apple was so happy to add totally restricive copy preventionto its software. They also try pretty hard to get you to use I-tunes which lets be honest is more expensive than buying a cd in tescos alot of the time.

carl

AAC is just MP4 and supported by a number of music players. The DRM'd AAC is a bit different, but it's pretty easy to crack and remove the DRM. Or you could just convert them all to MP3 if that's what you want -- I'm sure there are plenty of software utilities for that.

stevencotton

You seem very bitter, I've owned two iPods and not had a single problem with
either, in years of daily commuter use.

You're also totally misinformed, the DRM isn't "totally restrictive", do you have any idea what you are talking about?

iTunes is free, what are you talking about Tesco CDs for? Are you confusing iTunes with iTMS?

You spread FUD.

GaryK

You're problem is you cant separate your own opinions from reality, ok so you have had bad experiences with iPods that doesnt mean they are crap but posting $hit like "only a retard with no actual idea of the capabilities and easy use other mpe3 players offer, or a fashion led numpty would buy an ipod.
" isnt gonna endear you to anyone. I think TV shows like Lost are utter garbage but that is my *opinion* of it doesnt make it *so*. I didnt mean you slag off ipods in this thread I recall seeing many other threads where you go completely off your trolley slagging em off, and no I dont work for apple! So read and understand before you reply!

The Snug Rhino

back to the point - why are people not backing up their files????

Hanslow

I personally think that Ipods are not the best quality mp3/mp4 players out there.

What Apple are excellent at though is marketing the brand and coming up with a simple to use device that is marketed as such. How many other MP3/MP4 devices do you see advertised in the main media streams? Not many unfortunately.

It tends to be the geeky people (and yes, I am one of those ) that take the effort to research things to death and go for the best thing that suits them. The majority of people aren't like that though and will go for the popular named brands over the more obscure, but maybe functionally richer, alternatives.

I tried one and didn't like it, so I didn't buy one. Some of my family have them and I don't slag them off, it was their choice.....even if it was wrong