VXR lapping the ring in 8.05BTG
17 March 2006, 03:11 PM
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Ok let me put it this way........even a 300bhp all singing and dancing one wouldn't beat me.....that better?
And standard it would leave the VXR..........IN THE TWISTIES!
And standard it would leave the VXR..........IN THE TWISTIES!
17 March 2006, 03:23 PM
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Fair cop the Gti6 is a very capable track car, did you ever own a subaru?
I'm not to bothered personally about what make a car is but every other bloody car is a vauxhall!!
I'm not to bothered personally about what make a car is but every other bloody car is a vauxhall!!
17 March 2006, 03:23 PM
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Think we've taken a step backwards here fella's. I already knew that my VXR was better built, better looking and faster than both of my scoobs, now there is proof people are till talking ****e. 'Twisties' blah blah blah, thetime on the tracks show it can do corners, and the torque steer bollocks has been done to death, Top Gear did not have a full production car with the VXR running gear. Also people saying that WRX is a better name than VXR, well VXR is a new brand WRX has been going for years so how can you compare.
The VXR is much more involving to drive than the WRX . It is a faster better looking car than the other hot hatches and devaluation!!! we dont know yet and if you look in the autotrader you will see scoobs losing over £10k in 2 years thats more than the predicted loss on the VXR.
The VXR is much more involving to drive than the WRX . It is a faster better looking car than the other hot hatches and devaluation!!! we dont know yet and if you look in the autotrader you will see scoobs losing over £10k in 2 years thats more than the predicted loss on the VXR.
17 March 2006, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
In same price bracket as the WRX but performs as well as an STI....
That is quite appealing for a whole host of reasons.
That is quite appealing for a whole host of reasons.
17 March 2006, 03:26 PM
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They must have had an impression if you're still on SCOOBYnet"
Go play on the Vauhall site.......or if you wanna stay on here, see you down the strip....
Go play on the Vauhall site.......or if you wanna stay on here, see you down the strip....
17 March 2006, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by VXRBOY
Think we've taken a step backwards here fella's. I already knew that my VXR was better built, better looking and faster than both of my scoobs, now there is proof people are till talking ****e. 'Twisties' blah blah blah, thetime on the tracks show it can do corners, and the torque steer bollocks has been done to death, Top Gear did not have a full production car with the VXR running gear. Also people saying that WRX is a better name than VXR, well VXR is a new brand WRX has been going for years so how can you compare.
The VXR is much more involving to drive than the WRX . It is a faster better looking car than the other hot hatches and devaluation!!! we dont know yet and if you look in the autotrader you will see scoobs losing over £10k in 2 years thats more than the predicted loss on the VXR.
The VXR is much more involving to drive than the WRX . It is a faster better looking car than the other hot hatches and devaluation!!! we dont know yet and if you look in the autotrader you will see scoobs losing over £10k in 2 years thats more than the predicted loss on the VXR.
17 March 2006, 03:42 PM
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People are forgetting here that i have said numerous times i have had both the VXR does outperform the WRX (if you dont look at the times) it really pisses me off that people are still arguing about that. And the ring is just a big road, not a super flat purpose built track, so what better place to see the performance. I wonder will you change your minds when you get mullered by a VXR on the road! probably not, there will be all excuses.
How do we judge what is the best hot hatch?
How do we judge what is the best hot hatch?
17 March 2006, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by VXRBOY
People are forgetting here that i have said numerous times i have had both the VXR does outperform the WRX (if you dont look at the times) it really pisses me off that people are still arguing about that. And the ring is just a big road, not a super flat purpose built track, so what better place to see the performance. I wonder will you change your minds when you get mullered by a VXR on the road! probably not, there will be all excuses.
How do we judge what is the best hot hatch?
How do we judge what is the best hot hatch?
17 March 2006, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by VXRBOY
People are forgetting here that i have said numerous times i have had both the VXR does outperform the WRX (if you dont look at the times) it really pisses me off that people are still arguing about that. And the ring is just a big road, not a super flat purpose built track, so what better place to see the performance. I wonder will you change your minds when you get mullered by a VXR on the road! probably not, there will be all excuses.
How do we judge what is the best hot hatch?
How do we judge what is the best hot hatch?
17 March 2006, 03:47 PM
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VXR outperforms a WRX, and is nearly as good as the STi.
Fair game I say.
So, if the VXR isn't the best hot hatch (which I don't disgree with) and it's still better than a WRX then correct me if I'm wrong but there are many hot hatches that are superior to the WRX.
Good to see some car comapnies moving forwards when others seem to go back.
Fair game I say.
So, if the VXR isn't the best hot hatch (which I don't disgree with) and it's still better than a WRX then correct me if I'm wrong but there are many hot hatches that are superior to the WRX.
Good to see some car comapnies moving forwards when others seem to go back.
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17 March 2006, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
VXR outperforms a WRX, and is nearly as agood as the STi.
Fair game I say.
So, if the VXR isn't the best hot hatch (which I don't disgree with) - still better than a WRX eh.
Fair game I say.
So, if the VXR isn't the best hot hatch (which I don't disgree with) - still better than a WRX eh.
17 March 2006, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
VXR outperforms a WRX, and is nearly as agood as the STi.
Fair game I say.
So, if the VXR isn't the best hot hatch (which I don't disgree with) - still better than a WRX eh.
Fair game I say.
So, if the VXR isn't the best hot hatch (which I don't disgree with) - still better than a WRX eh.
but the VXR isn't better than an STi
Also yes obviously seeing companies progress is a good thing as a consumer as we will ultimatly have a great choice!!!
17 March 2006, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sgcooby
Is that based on your extensive knowledge of cars???? You didnt even know that the latest S4's had N/A engines in a previous thread. DOH.
17 March 2006, 03:58 PM
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It really grates that an Astra is a damn sight quicker car than a WRX and up there in STi teritory doesn't it.
I was outpaced by a Civic Type-R the other day whilst in my Pug, I didn't fight it, nor did it wind me up.
It's funny that suggesting something could challenge (or in this case prove to be the faster car) a scoob provokes such defensive posts.
I was outpaced by a Civic Type-R the other day whilst in my Pug, I didn't fight it, nor did it wind me up.
It's funny that suggesting something could challenge (or in this case prove to be the faster car) a scoob provokes such defensive posts.
17 March 2006, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by VXRBOY
Why do my opinions count for nothing sgcooby, is that cos i've had both cars and actually know what i am talking about, or just cos you dont agree with what i am saying. *****
17 March 2006, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sgcooby
By your own admission you were pissed off that not everyone takes your word as gospel which says to me you have an over inflated opinion of yourself. You may well prefer your VXR to your old Scoobs but that does not make it the better car. You are not a renowned car journalist or a repected authority on cars your as merely a VXR owner as i am a Scoob owner so your comments hold no more validity than mine. Get over yourself.
The debate about what is the "better" car can rage on.
The debate (not so much of a debate) about what is the faster car has already been ascertained. Well done Vauxhall for making their WRX competitor compete with the STi.
17 March 2006, 04:04 PM
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The VXR may/does challenge a standard WRX but a tuned VXR will not compete with a tuned WRX....this is, I admit, a veriation on the original post but it was mentioned that a VXR could make 300bhp.........So from the modding side of things a modded WRX would destroy a modded VXR.....so as Alloy said in an earlier post the scoob would be better from a standard to potential role....
17 March 2006, 04:05 PM
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Senior, this vxr stuff was posted on a scooby web site, what sort of reaction were you expecting............I'm secure as I know that the VXR isn't going to be as quick as my STi, and I'm sorry dispite it's value for money there are more capable hatches than a VXR and thats a fact, numerous sources have slated it's tourque steer and it is a boring car with little to no appeal to me!
17 March 2006, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
It really grates that an Astra is a damn sight quicker car than a WRX and up there in STi teritory doesn't it.
I was outpaced by a Civic Type-R the other day whilst in my Pug, I didn't fight it, nor did it wind me up.
It's funny that suggesting something could challenge (or in this case prove to be the faster car) a scoob provokes such defensive posts.
I was outpaced by a Civic Type-R the other day whilst in my Pug, I didn't fight it, nor did it wind me up.
It's funny that suggesting something could challenge (or in this case prove to be the faster car) a scoob provokes such defensive posts.
17 March 2006, 04:09 PM
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The VXR won't be as quick as your STi, no.
The responses I expected are the responses I have leant to expect from the majority on here - defensive.
A suitable response would be an acceptance of the VXR's ability, and the fact it is a quicker car than a WRX, and competing with STi's on track performace for less money than the WRX.
That is the response that I would hope for.
The responses I expected are the responses I have leant to expect from the majority on here - defensive.
A suitable response would be an acceptance of the VXR's ability, and the fact it is a quicker car than a WRX, and competing with STi's on track performace for less money than the WRX.
That is the response that I would hope for.
17 March 2006, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sgcooby
I actually posted originally saying i wasnt surprised the VXR posted the time it did as it is a quick car. The only thing that grates me is when certain people and you included start making comments like you are the 'be all and end all' on anything to do with cars and what you say goes. Slight differences around the ring make **** all difference to me and have nothing to do with why i wouldnt choose a VXR. The vauxhall did a good lap of the ring and now all we get is WRX are **** and the VXR is the best hot hatch around. There is a lot more to it than that but sadly you cannot see that.
My sentiments from the start i have maintained that the VXR posted a decent time, it just grinds my gears when you start saying it is better, the dynamics of the two cars are polar opposites and givern 20k for a car i'd be angling for a 12 month old STi than a VXR
17 March 2006, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sgcooby
I actually posted originally saying i wasnt surprised the VXR posted the time it did as it is a quick car. The only thing that grates me is when certain people and you included start making comments like you are the 'be all and end all' on anything to do with cars and what you say goes. Slight differences around the ring make **** all difference to me and have nothing to do with why i wouldnt choose a VXR. The vauxhall did a good lap of the ring and now all we get is WRX are **** and the VXR is the best hot hatch around. There is a lot more to it than that but sadly you cannot see that.
Oh the irony.
I'm bored now, going home for a tan in my mates scooby.