VXR lapping the ring in 8.05BTG
17 March 2006, 12:38 PM
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Quote from alloy "for which the STi and VXR sit are performance ones. with repect to track cars i am unaware of many track cars that have remained as they did when they left the factory! In that respect the Impreza is a better buy"
I agree the STI is probably a better buy, but certainly not the WRX. But then again the STI does cost about £7K more than the VXR.
I agree the STI is probably a better buy, but certainly not the WRX. But then again the STI does cost about £7K more than the VXR.
17 March 2006, 12:48 PM
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I cant see what all the fuss is about. Im not surprised the VXR did this time. It seams about right for the power and weight its got. STI has only 265PS so it should only be slightly faster and it is. Whats the problem with that????
17 March 2006, 01:16 PM
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The impreza isn't a rally car?
An impreza is a 4wd saloon car, nothing more.
You can tell your friends down the pub what you like of course.
17 March 2006, 02:09 PM
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I just got back from lunch, and drove a VXR for the first time. A friend from work let me have a blast in his.
Lovely motor. Obviously can't really comment on handling/brakes but it does shift!!
Would take one over a scoob any day. Reason? They are more less common, look better and are screwed together better. the looks are advanced and modern, unlike the scoob which looks like a cross between a Chrysler Neon and Daewoo Nexia.
http://www.spoilersmax.co.uk/Spoiler...ia_spoiler.jpg
VXR very nice car indeed, and it's performance is near STI level and far superior to it's natural challenger, the WRX.
Lovely motor. Obviously can't really comment on handling/brakes but it does shift!!
Would take one over a scoob any day. Reason? They are more less common, look better and are screwed together better. the looks are advanced and modern, unlike the scoob which looks like a cross between a Chrysler Neon and Daewoo Nexia.
http://www.spoilersmax.co.uk/Spoiler...ia_spoiler.jpg
VXR very nice car indeed, and it's performance is near STI level and far superior to it's natural challenger, the WRX.
17 March 2006, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
Would love to see a 4wd VXR. That way the could get the power to 340bhp (apparently) and would handle well also!!! Come on Vauxhall, get it done!!!
Totally agree, when will manufacturers get it into their heads that simple laws of physics put a stop to how much power can be put through a front wheel drive chassis (no matter how good it is)
To make a VXR a true point to point missile Vauxhall need to make it 4wd
Imagine a VXR with 300bhp+ and 4wd - it would steal sales from Subaru like no tommorrow
17 March 2006, 02:25 PM
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You'd like to see another 4 wheel drive Vauxhall? Do you own a company making transfer boxes?
17 March 2006, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by The Chief
Totally agree, when will manufacturers get it into their heads that simple laws of physics put a stop to how much power can be put through a front wheel drive chassis (no matter how good it is)
To make a VXR a true point to point missile Vauxhall need to make it 4wd
Imagine a VXR with 300bhp+ and 4wd - it would steal sales from Subaru like no tommorrow
To make a VXR a true point to point missile Vauxhall need to make it 4wd
Imagine a VXR with 300bhp+ and 4wd - it would steal sales from Subaru like no tommorrow
17 March 2006, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
I doubt it. It would still be a vauxhall with a price tag of atleast 25k.
17 March 2006, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sgcooby
Agreed. The appeal of the VXR is its cheap. By adding AWD the cost would increase dramatically.
17 March 2006, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by VXRBOY
WRONG!! The appeal of the VXR is that its a bloody good car
17 March 2006, 02:44 PM
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its competition is also the focus ST dont you forget. The VXR is the chavs choice. Nevermind the depreciation hits it will take over the weeks and months.
A bloody good car is the Golf GTi and the Focus ST and the VXR will have some stiff competiton very soon from a influx of new better reputated hot hatches.
Plus the VXR name is cheap. Theres also a Meriva VXR and some other mpv type vxr. Its not very sporting exclusive.
A bloody good car is the Golf GTi and the Focus ST and the VXR will have some stiff competiton very soon from a influx of new better reputated hot hatches.
Plus the VXR name is cheap. Theres also a Meriva VXR and some other mpv type vxr. Its not very sporting exclusive.
17 March 2006, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sgcooby
WRONG. Is because its cheap. Maybe good but its only good in this price bracket.
That is quite appealing for a whole host of reasons.
17 March 2006, 02:47 PM
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Not really rally cars......
One if the rules about "that" really series is that the car has to be in main production....(wording obviously off, but you get my point)
No I either spend my time drinking or telling them how many muppets are on SN 
One if the rules about "that" really series is that the car has to be in main production....(wording obviously off, but you get my point)
You can tell your friends down the pub what you like of course.
17 March 2006, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AudiLover
its competition is also the focus ST dont you forget. The VXR is the chavs choice. Nevermind the depreciation hits it will take over the weeks and months.
A bloody good car is the Golf GTi and the Focus ST and the VXR will have some stiff competiton very soon from a influx of new better reputated hot hatches.
Plus the VXR name is cheap. Theres also a Meriva VXR and some other mpv type vxr. Its not very sporting exclusive.
A bloody good car is the Golf GTi and the Focus ST and the VXR will have some stiff competiton very soon from a influx of new better reputated hot hatches.
Plus the VXR name is cheap. Theres also a Meriva VXR and some other mpv type vxr. Its not very sporting exclusive.
Are we saying here that the words "Impreza", "WRX" and "Turbo" are exclusive words in comparison??
17 March 2006, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
In same price bracket as the WRX but performs as wellas an STI??
That is quite appealing for a whole host of reasons.
That is quite appealing for a whole host of reasons.
17 March 2006, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by alloy
what does performance mean? If you mean go raound a track a couple of seconds slower with a race driver then yes, but in most peoples reality we are not all race drivers and dont all have track that we can learn and master we have windy, bumpy, dangerous roads for which i feel the subaru no matter which guise its in will be the more rewarding and better performing car
Rewarding? Define.....
17 March 2006, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Are we saying here that the words "Impreza", "WRX" and "Turbo" are exclusive words in comparison??
17 March 2006, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Scoob better in the twisties on a cold wet windy day in Wales then.
Rewarding? Define.....
Rewarding? Define.....
It grips through the corners, or you can choose to break that traction for a little controlled power slide action, it wont tourque steer you into the bus stop full of OAPs, it wont understeer as much as a VXR, it gives the driver so much confidence and to drive one of these to it's potential is still challenging and when you crack that the world is your oyster....
17 March 2006, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by alloy
Have you not drivern one?
It grips through the corners, or you can choose to break that traction for a little controlled power slide action, it wont tourque steer you into the bus stop full of OAPs, it wont understeer as much as a VXR, it gives the driver so much confidence and to drive one of these to it's potential is still challenging and when you crack that the world is your oyster....
It grips through the corners, or you can choose to break that traction for a little controlled power slide action, it wont tourque steer you into the bus stop full of OAPs, it wont understeer as much as a VXR, it gives the driver so much confidence and to drive one of these to it's potential is still challenging and when you crack that the world is your oyster....
I see your point.
17 March 2006, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
So it's flattering rather than rewarding.
I see your point.
I see your point.
it can flatter you, but if you push it then it is rewarding where as the vauxhall we neither flatter nor reward you and at the end of the day it is a vauxhall!!!Out of interest what do you drive Senior?
17 March 2006, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tripple'O G
.........and they **** all over VXR's......
I drive an old Vectra LS for the trudge to work, and a GTi6 as a track car.
"At the end of the day it's a Vauxhall", sorry - I forgot about the Quedos associated to the marque that is Subaru.
http://hvtm.totalcar.hu/car/m/subaru/087143.jpg
http://www.xscars.net/mark/249_4.jpg
http://hvtm.totalcar.hu/car/m/subaru/105668.jpg
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...52905.1-lg.jpg
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