Hi Jonathan,

The only bit of the Pantera that is significantly safer is the engine as obviously the Maserati V8 is far more expensive to rebuild than the small block for in the Pantera. The ZF gearbox and transaxle are the same however and this is a more likely source of problems.

For me the fact it is a Maserati and one of the great forgotten supercars was the deciding factor when deciding which classic supercar to go for.

Regards

Robin

 

The Bora is just lovely... beats a Miura to the all-time prettiness crown imo.

DW - cracking Pantera! That shot illustrates nicely how loud they look compared to summat a bit more understated like a Bora... those rear wheels are obscenely huge.

Both seem to be very rare now, the Bora more so. Panteras seem to be around £30k for a good one (although there's a lefthooker on pistonheads for £20k)... god knows what you'd pay for a Bora if you ever found one.

£20k.. DT Pantera or A3tdi? Hmm!

 

Totally Standard, 12K miles

 

My current one.

www.ashlyn.plus.com

£15k and still rising (not including purchase price of £18k !! )

 

This thing:





And it hasn't ever broke down (much) or suffered any bad mechanical failures (yet).

 

lol, mine was the scoob too.
uk turbo W reg
color coded
PPP
Driving enhancement pack
prodrive spoiler
Full decat Scoobysport exhaust fitted by Bell & Colvill
eGuard tracker (1500 per year)

flatted a wheel - 500 quid for new wheel, 2 front tyres, tracking and geometry check.

450pcm HP
100pcm insurance
200pcm petrol


sold it for 14k - spotless


after 2 years

depreciation+costs = 15K per year

never again

(edited to add the loopy man smilie )

 

WoooOooooooooOOOO Mand!!!!

 

[Biggest money pit?? Definately my old Saxo VTS. Gearbox, head gasket, discs and pads front and back, clutch, 3 catalytic convertors, 1 full exhaust and 2 head units!! All that and it was only sold with 60 000 on the clock. Hard 60000 though!! You'd have thought I'd have learnt my lesson with ****ty french cars but no I bought a 106GTI and had nearly as much trouble with that too!!! No more French for me, they just cant take hard driving!!

 

I dunno, I thought the couple of pugs I had were pretty reliable considering the way I teated them.
Although I did break the diff in the 106 but it was covered under warranty.
Clocked up 15,000 miles in about 8months (just ragging it around) and ended up selling it after landing it a little hard on the rear suspension one day bending the boot floor.

 

What mods did you do to the GTI?

 

Corsa SRI, paid £5000 spent £5000ish on mods repairs etc, sold 90,000 miles later (3 years) £2250.

 

Biggest money pit (excluding the wife!) ....... for the last few years - just cars in general as I haven't settled .....

Before my current cars there were :-

S2000 - owned 1 year and lost £7K !!!
CTR - owned 18 months and lost £4K
BMW 330i owned 10 months and lost £4,750

I now seem happier with an '05 Scooby WRX PPP and a TVR Griffith 500 ...... which is just as well as I have totally run out of money to waste!

Whoever bought the S2000, CTR and 330i got mint cars at my expense - sometime I want to actually be the one who buys a car in that condition rather than the muppet who sells them

 

my first money pit was a vauxhall nova I bought for £1000 about 7 years ago. It had had an engine conversion in it. Not long after I bought it I blew a hunk out of the head. I had the head replaed but it wasn't running properly.

I then had another engine fitted. a 2.0l 8v cavalier engine, but this had taken in some water and the piston was knackerd so had to come out.

In went engine no 3 which was a 2.0l 16v calibra engine.

Paid £1000 for the car, spent £12,000 over 3 years sold for £1500 !!

The boy who bought it from me sold it for £3000, then the next owner crashed it. Another person bought it and repaired it doing a full rebuilt spending another £12,000 on it. He sold it for £1500 the guy who bought it scrapped it after a few months !

That's a £24k nova !

The next car was my silver wrx. Paid £6k for it, spend another £6k on it, someone crashed into me writing it off.

My current wrx cost me £3500, but I've spent another £4500 on it already since last June.

My other current car is a £2500 mr2 turbo whih is away getting a £10k ferrari 355 conversion

cars.......

 

Mine was a K Plate Rover 220 Turbo Coupe. Very low mileage, fsh etc. Was giving it a quick blast and the engine let go. Piston 2 and 3 disintegrated. Decided to get a recon engine from Vega for an arm and a leg. Was running it in (only been back on the road 5 days) so was taking it steady.....poof of smoke at 30 mph and piston 3 is dead again. On inspection, the tip of the spark plug had dropped into the chamber. New piston etc etc. That car could smell cash. I never did get to give it a good thrashing either!

 

Apart from my current money pit, which is still worth about 70% of what its cost me, i've only lost about £4.5k from cars since 1991

Always been careful what I buy, and generally sell on for near what I paid for them

 

This is one of our money pits

I even had to sell HCs GT4 to pay for some new bits on it

And it's an endless money pit

But great fun

 

damn right, i will second that one, bought my 05 WRX 8 months ago for 21,500, im told its worth a little over 12k now.



money pit???, thats the the black hole for gods sake


john

 

Sold my M3 CSL last month, owned it 14 months and lost £17K on it, in those 14 months only covered 13,000 miles.

Do i regret it - Absolutely Note, fantastic car, best i've ever owned, just regret not being able to drive it more , Nicky

 

i regret buying mine big style, i should have bought the STI, bet you never had total engine faliure, twice within the first 3 months, suspension faliure and the dealer generaly being the biggest pain in my **** for the last 6 months.


would i buy another???


probably, just not from my local dealer


john

 

My GTi-R..

Bought for £5,500
Spent £6,000 (excluding insurance, petrol obivously)
Sold after 11 months for £5,300

Best car I ever owned though

 

The 355 conversions for MR2's look AMAZING!!! I saw one recently, and it looked just like the real thing, didnt look totally out-of-proportion and highly-amusing at all!!

Infact if you parked next to a real 355 you'd have a job working out which one was your car!!!

......

 

the 6ft wheel spacers at the back give it away


not really sure of the point in them TBH, but i can appreciate the work that goes into them, alot odf hard work by the looks of some of them


john