Vote - best tyre brand/model
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Gary / Gutmann pug says (on general):
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My own two pennith is that I tried Toyo's and F1 GSD3's and found them to be much of a muchness. If I had the car out of shape because of these tyres I would have been driving like an idiot and didnt deserve the keys.
I also used Dunlop SP Sport race on-track and these performed well as semi slick road legal soft tyres.........
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My own two pennith is that I tried Toyo's and F1 GSD3's and found them to be much of a muchness. If I had the car out of shape because of these tyres I would have been driving like an idiot and didnt deserve the keys.
I also used Dunlop SP Sport race on-track and these performed well as semi slick road legal soft tyres.........
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SCOOBY TYRE VOTE - T1Rs and F1s neck and neck!
Votes summary after 31 posts:
GOODYEAR Eagle F1s - 7 votes in favour, 1 against (7/8=88%)
TOYO T1R - 7 votes in favour, 1 vote against (7/8=88%)
MICHELIN Pilot Sport 2 - 4 votes in favour (4/4 = 100%)
AVON ZZ3 - 2 votes in favour (2/2=100%)
YOKOHAMA Parada II - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
PIRELLI P6000 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
PIRELLI P-ZERO - 1 vote in favour, 1 vote against (1/2=50%)
TOYO T1S - 1 vote against (0/1=0%)
COME ON ALL YOU SCOOBYNETTERS, LETS MAKE THIS A BIG SURVEY AND WE CAN ALL BENEFIT FROM THE SCOOBY KNOWLEDGE - EVERYONE JUDGE YOUR TYRES, DON'T LET THE OTHERS INFLUENCE YOU!!!!
GOODYEAR Eagle F1s - 7 votes in favour, 1 against (7/8=88%)
TOYO T1R - 7 votes in favour, 1 vote against (7/8=88%)
MICHELIN Pilot Sport 2 - 4 votes in favour (4/4 = 100%)
AVON ZZ3 - 2 votes in favour (2/2=100%)
YOKOHAMA Parada II - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
PIRELLI P6000 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
PIRELLI P-ZERO - 1 vote in favour, 1 vote against (1/2=50%)
TOYO T1S - 1 vote against (0/1=0%)
COME ON ALL YOU SCOOBYNETTERS, LETS MAKE THIS A BIG SURVEY AND WE CAN ALL BENEFIT FROM THE SCOOBY KNOWLEDGE - EVERYONE JUDGE YOUR TYRES, DON'T LET THE OTHERS INFLUENCE YOU!!!!
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Hankook Ventus Sport 104's for me.
Much better than Toyo T1-S's (which I rate as downright dangerous in the wet). Goodyear F1's have amazing grip in the wet and the std Pirelli Assimetricos aren't too bad considering they're OEM.
Much better than Toyo T1-S's (which I rate as downright dangerous in the wet). Goodyear F1's have amazing grip in the wet and the std Pirelli Assimetricos aren't too bad considering they're OEM.
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I'm running T1-R, far superior to T1-S, but the Eagle F1s are better, only by a very small margin. You have to be a bit more careful with your pressures with the T1R that the Eagle F1s- you can get away with murder with them, they're that good.
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All round everyday use - MICHELIN Pilot Sport 2's
On track/dry - Bridgestone Potenza RE070, a recent driving adventure showed me the benefits of these tyres and evo magazine seem to agree this month on the new 2.5 STi too!
Negatives - Potenza RE040, didn't last long, poor in the wet and only average in the dry! Why do they fit them standard??
On track/dry - Bridgestone Potenza RE070, a recent driving adventure showed me the benefits of these tyres and evo magazine seem to agree this month on the new 2.5 STi too!
Negatives - Potenza RE040, didn't last long, poor in the wet and only average in the dry! Why do they fit them standard??
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i had 4 pirelli p6000 fitted 4 weeks ago (205/50/16). im very pleased with them so fare. the road noise is a lot quieter than the yokos i had on before them.
#37
Originally Posted by Stupid Insurance
Not actually on a scooby, but I changed my balding Pirelli's on the front of my new shape Mondeo for Goodyear Eagles and they completely ruined it. Its now twitchy in the dry and tramlines any rut in the road. In the wet, its lethal. Pulling away from a junction, not quickly, but quick enough if you're joining traffic, it will spin the wheels in second and will keep on spinning them until you lift off.
That's on a heavy fwd car with about 105bhp. I wouldn't let a scobby even look at them
That's on a heavy fwd car with about 105bhp. I wouldn't let a scobby even look at them
Anyway my vote is for goodyear Eagles I have now had 2 sets 1st GSD2s and now GSD3s...
Both excellent in all weathers
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TYRES UPDATE: 48 votes cast so far
Votes summary after 44 posts:
GOODYEAR Eagle F1s - 13 votes in favour, 1 against (13/14=93%)
TOYO T1R - 11 votes in favour, 1 vote against (11/12=92%)
MICHELIN Pilot Sport 2 - 7 votes in favour (7/7 = 100%)
AVON ZZ3 - 2 votes in favour (2/2=100%)
PIRELLI P6000 - 2 vote in favour (2/2=100%)
YOKOHAMA Parada II - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
HANKOOK Ventus Sport 104 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
PIRELLI Assimetrico - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE070 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
PIRELLI P-ZERO - 1 vote in favour, 1 vote against (1/2=50%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE040 - 2 votes against (0/2=0%)
TOYO T1S - 3 votes against (0/3=0%)
COME ON ALL YOU SCOOBYNETTERS, LETS MAKE THIS A BIG SURVEY AND WE CAN ALL BENEFIT FROM THE SCOOBY KNOWLEDGE - EVERYONE JUDGE YOUR TYRES, DON'T LET THE OTHERS INFLUENCE YOU!!!!
GOODYEAR Eagle F1s - 13 votes in favour, 1 against (13/14=93%)
TOYO T1R - 11 votes in favour, 1 vote against (11/12=92%)
MICHELIN Pilot Sport 2 - 7 votes in favour (7/7 = 100%)
AVON ZZ3 - 2 votes in favour (2/2=100%)
PIRELLI P6000 - 2 vote in favour (2/2=100%)
YOKOHAMA Parada II - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
HANKOOK Ventus Sport 104 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
PIRELLI Assimetrico - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE070 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
PIRELLI P-ZERO - 1 vote in favour, 1 vote against (1/2=50%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE040 - 2 votes against (0/2=0%)
TOYO T1S - 3 votes against (0/3=0%)
COME ON ALL YOU SCOOBYNETTERS, LETS MAKE THIS A BIG SURVEY AND WE CAN ALL BENEFIT FROM THE SCOOBY KNOWLEDGE - EVERYONE JUDGE YOUR TYRES, DON'T LET THE OTHERS INFLUENCE YOU!!!!
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You won't regret trying the Goodyear Eagle F1's. For all-weather road use it's hard to find anything else that offers such a well balanced package. You'll find other makes that will outperform the GY's in terms of absolute traction and cornering force but they tend to be so stiff that there's little warning as to when you hit the limit of adhesion.
The feedback from the GY's is really progressive so you get loads of advance warning before the car finally starts to break off into understeer. Dead handy if you don't know the road or if you've overcooked your entry speed.
The feedback from the GY's is really progressive so you get loads of advance warning before the car finally starts to break off into understeer. Dead handy if you don't know the road or if you've overcooked your entry speed.
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Mick you are right, this vote is for SCOOBY experience - I am adjusting the tally accordingly as well as adding in a few more votes:
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Votes summary after 49 posts:
GOODYEAR Eagle F1s - 17 votes in favour, 0 against (17/17=100%)
TOYO T1R - 11 votes in favour, 1 vote against (11/12=92%)
MICHELIN Pilot Sport 2 - 7 votes in favour (7/7 = 100%)
AVON ZZ3 - 2 votes in favour (2/2=100%)
PIRELLI P6000 - 2 vote in favour (2/2=100%)
YOKOHAMA Parada II - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
HANKOOK Ventus Sport 104 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
PIRELLI Assimetrico - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE070 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
PIRELLI P-ZERO - 1 vote in favour, 1 vote against (1/2=50%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE040 - 2 votes against (0/2=0%)
TOYO T1S - 3 votes against (0/3=0%)
COME ON ALL YOU SCOOBYNETTERS, LETS MAKE THIS A BIG SURVEY AND WE CAN ALL BENEFIT FROM THE SCOOBY KNOWLEDGE - EVERYONE JUDGE YOUR TYRES, DON'T LET THE OTHERS INFLUENCE YOU!!!!
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Votes summary after 49 posts:
GOODYEAR Eagle F1s - 17 votes in favour, 0 against (17/17=100%)
TOYO T1R - 11 votes in favour, 1 vote against (11/12=92%)
MICHELIN Pilot Sport 2 - 7 votes in favour (7/7 = 100%)
AVON ZZ3 - 2 votes in favour (2/2=100%)
PIRELLI P6000 - 2 vote in favour (2/2=100%)
YOKOHAMA Parada II - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
HANKOOK Ventus Sport 104 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
PIRELLI Assimetrico - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE070 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
PIRELLI P-ZERO - 1 vote in favour, 1 vote against (1/2=50%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE040 - 2 votes against (0/2=0%)
TOYO T1S - 3 votes against (0/3=0%)
COME ON ALL YOU SCOOBYNETTERS, LETS MAKE THIS A BIG SURVEY AND WE CAN ALL BENEFIT FROM THE SCOOBY KNOWLEDGE - EVERYONE JUDGE YOUR TYRES, DON'T LET THE OTHERS INFLUENCE YOU!!!!
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Bridgestone RE040 - On car when I got it (well, 2 were ), very average tyre with no redeeming features. Do the job, that's all
Yokahama 539 - The other 2 that were on the car when I got it, plus I have used them before on my previous car. Bloody awful tyre, with reasonable dry and wet grip, but truly appauling in damp conditions. Misty, dewey mornings could be exciting
Vredestein Sportrac - Very good all round general road tyre, apart from excessive wear to centre on track. The 2 distinct bands in the middle of the tread can be easily ripped to pieces when drifting on a concrete surfaced hairpin. Good wet or dry on road
Bridgestone RE070 - Absolutely awesome in the dry. Adds 20mph to cornering speeds in warm dry weather. Very nervous in the wet, especially if you stray onto a white line. Rigid sidewalls give pronounced tramlining and a harsh ride
Vredestein UltraC - Fantastic tyre. Very good in the wet and superb in the dry. I'd say 95% of the RE070 dry grip, but with Toyo/F1 wet grip, along with superb wear rate. My next tyre for sure, and at very reasonable prices
Toyo T1S - Very good all 'round, wet or dry with progressive break away. Soft compound looks to be wearing quickly especially on inside edges (requiring f to r rotation regularly)
Yokahama 539 - The other 2 that were on the car when I got it, plus I have used them before on my previous car. Bloody awful tyre, with reasonable dry and wet grip, but truly appauling in damp conditions. Misty, dewey mornings could be exciting
Vredestein Sportrac - Very good all round general road tyre, apart from excessive wear to centre on track. The 2 distinct bands in the middle of the tread can be easily ripped to pieces when drifting on a concrete surfaced hairpin. Good wet or dry on road
Bridgestone RE070 - Absolutely awesome in the dry. Adds 20mph to cornering speeds in warm dry weather. Very nervous in the wet, especially if you stray onto a white line. Rigid sidewalls give pronounced tramlining and a harsh ride
Vredestein UltraC - Fantastic tyre. Very good in the wet and superb in the dry. I'd say 95% of the RE070 dry grip, but with Toyo/F1 wet grip, along with superb wear rate. My next tyre for sure, and at very reasonable prices
Toyo T1S - Very good all 'round, wet or dry with progressive break away. Soft compound looks to be wearing quickly especially on inside edges (requiring f to r rotation regularly)
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coolgrey sti made the following contribution (copied from general board):
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Vredestein Ultrac, not widely available but what a brilliant tyre. Better than the Avon ZZ3s I had before and they were good. The Ultrac is so grippy in the dry and just cuts through wet roads. Anyone else tried them ?
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Vredestein Ultrac, not widely available but what a brilliant tyre. Better than the Avon ZZ3s I had before and they were good. The Ultrac is so grippy in the dry and just cuts through wet roads. Anyone else tried them ?
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Vredestein Ultrac, not widely available but what a brilliant tyre. Better than the Avon ZZ3s I had before and they were good. The Ultrac is so grippy in the dry and just cuts through wet roads. Anyone else tried them ?
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Thanks to all the tyre voters so far!!!
I have just bought my Scooby a nice set of four Goodyear Eagle F1s.
But, just to show this exercise has not been totally selfish I promise to keep adding up the votes on tyres every so often so we can keep a running tally on the Wheels, Tyres and Brakes forum.
I can confirm that I won't be posting like a maniac on the general board any more - its just to hectic!!!
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KEEP IT GOING - WE DON'T HAVE MANY STATISTICS ON THE PIRELLIS,
FALKENS, AVONS, BRIDGESTONES, DUNLOPS and YOKOHAMAS,
so come out of the woodwork you shy ones!
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I have just bought my Scooby a nice set of four Goodyear Eagle F1s.
But, just to show this exercise has not been totally selfish I promise to keep adding up the votes on tyres every so often so we can keep a running tally on the Wheels, Tyres and Brakes forum.
I can confirm that I won't be posting like a maniac on the general board any more - its just to hectic!!!
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KEEP IT GOING - WE DON'T HAVE MANY STATISTICS ON THE PIRELLIS,
FALKENS, AVONS, BRIDGESTONES, DUNLOPS and YOKOHAMAS,
so come out of the woodwork you shy ones!
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Last edited by Cosmic37; 02 March 2006 at 02:13 PM.
#58
Originally Posted by BOB'5
GoodYear F1 GSD3 83Y splitting dangerously on inner sidewalls (all 4!).
215/40/17 - Avoid
215/40/17 - Avoid
Not worth risking in the size he quotes, Goodyear say that isn't a recommended spec/size combination for Impreza Turbos.
F1s in 205/50/16 87 or above and 215/45/17 91XL:
+ Superb grip wet and dry, predictable handling, forgiving breakaway, no tramlining, quiet. reasonable prices.
- Slightly vague feeling on the straight, not the most 'direct' of tyres....often better with a little more air in them, particularly in summer. Minor points.
Can only compare with variety of OE Bridgestones (and some Nokian winter tyres but I won't go into that).
Miles better IMHO that Bridgestones in all respects except a little less responsive. Very confidence inspiring.
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I'm going to vote for the F1 too, had mine on the car for 15k miles now and no problems at all with them- still plenty of wear left on them as well.
Progressive when it starts to lose grip with plenty of feedback. Best tyres I've had in the wet in addition.
Progressive when it starts to lose grip with plenty of feedback. Best tyres I've had in the wet in addition.
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SCOOBYNETTERS - Are your tyres GREAT or PANTS?
Votes summary after 60 posts:
GOODYEAR Eagle F1s - 21 votes in favour, 1 against (21/22=95%)
TOYO T1R - 11 votes in favour, 1 vote against (11/12=92%)
MICHELIN Pilot Sport 2 - 7 votes in favour (7/7 = 100%)
AVON ZZ3 - 3 votes in favour (3/3=100%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE070 - 3 votes in favour (3/3=100%)
PIRELLI P6000 - 2 vote in favour (2/2=100%)
VREDESTEIN Ultrac - 2 votes in favour (2/2=100%)
YOKOHAMA Parada II - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
HANKOOK Ventus Sport 104 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
PIRELLI Assimetrico - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
VREDESTEIN Sportrac - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
PIRELLI P-ZERO - 1 vote in favour, 1 vote against (1/2=50%)
TOYO T1S - 1 vote in favour, 3 votes against (1/4=25%)
YOKOHAMA 539 - 1 vote against (0/1=0%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE040 - 4 votes against (0/4=0%)
COME ON ALL YOU SCOOBYNETTERS, LETS MAKE THIS A BIG SURVEY AND WE CAN ALL BENEFIT FROM THE SCOOBY KNOWLEDGE - EVERYONE JUDGE YOUR TYRES, DON'T LET THE OTHERS INFLUENCE YOU!!!!
GOODYEAR Eagle F1s - 21 votes in favour, 1 against (21/22=95%)
TOYO T1R - 11 votes in favour, 1 vote against (11/12=92%)
MICHELIN Pilot Sport 2 - 7 votes in favour (7/7 = 100%)
AVON ZZ3 - 3 votes in favour (3/3=100%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE070 - 3 votes in favour (3/3=100%)
PIRELLI P6000 - 2 vote in favour (2/2=100%)
VREDESTEIN Ultrac - 2 votes in favour (2/2=100%)
YOKOHAMA Parada II - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
HANKOOK Ventus Sport 104 - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
PIRELLI Assimetrico - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
VREDESTEIN Sportrac - 1 vote in favour (1/1=100%)
PIRELLI P-ZERO - 1 vote in favour, 1 vote against (1/2=50%)
TOYO T1S - 1 vote in favour, 3 votes against (1/4=25%)
YOKOHAMA 539 - 1 vote against (0/1=0%)
BRIDGESTONE Potenza RE040 - 4 votes against (0/4=0%)
COME ON ALL YOU SCOOBYNETTERS, LETS MAKE THIS A BIG SURVEY AND WE CAN ALL BENEFIT FROM THE SCOOBY KNOWLEDGE - EVERYONE JUDGE YOUR TYRES, DON'T LET THE OTHERS INFLUENCE YOU!!!!
Last edited by Cosmic37; 02 March 2006 at 09:14 PM.