Halfords Fully synthetic oil is a Group III hydrocracked oil
31 January 2006, 10:19 PM
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The wife asked tonight before she went out, "Does my **** look fat in this dress?"
I said, "Your **** looks Fat in every dress!"
I was being honest, she didn't want me to be honest and now look - 2 shiners!!
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31 January 2006, 10:24 PM
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So, there we have it then, the Comma stuff is a basic grade III cooking oil
not to be confused with quality ester/pao based oils like Silkolene Pro S, Motul 300V or Castrol RS
not to be confused with quality ester/pao based oils like Silkolene Pro S, Motul 300V or Castrol RS
31 January 2006, 11:31 PM
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So, there we have it then, the Comma stuff is a basic grade III cooking oil
not to be confused with quality ester/pao based oils like Silkolene Pro S, Motul 300V or Castrol RS
not to be confused with quality ester/pao based oils like Silkolene Pro S, Motul 300V or Castrol RS
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01 February 2006, 03:27 AM
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As already posted on this thread, the results of the Halfords(Comma) oil analysis turns up the actual real FACT that :
The Halfords oil is what can loosely be termed 'synthetic' but it is not a true synthetic in our understanding of what that is : the more expensive Silkolene (Pro S 5w-40 for example) oil is.
A Subaru may or may not benefit from the better oil (which the true synthetic is) but is there disagreement that the Silkolene product is a better lubricant ?
The Halfords oil is what can loosely be termed 'synthetic' but it is not a true synthetic in our understanding of what that is : the more expensive Silkolene (Pro S 5w-40 for example) oil is.
A Subaru may or may not benefit from the better oil (which the true synthetic is) but is there disagreement that the Silkolene product is a better lubricant ?
01 February 2006, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Would that throw my 38mpg figures out 
Next thing you will be telling me is that my brake pads were specials at 30mm thick each and therefore I'm not doing as well as I thought
I'm SURE it's 45 Litres!!
Pete
Next thing you will be telling me is that my brake pads were specials at 30mm thick each and therefore I'm not doing as well as I thought
I'm SURE it's 45 Litres!!
Pete
01 February 2006, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GrahamG
It can't Pete. You will be seeing how much goes into the car and working out the MPG from that. you don't fill up and say that 45 ltrs do you... without looking??
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01 February 2006, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Errrrm, well, I do know that a full tank gets me 380 miles on a run before needing filling .............. nowt wrong with that!
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On a run!!! Don't you mean 237.5 'runs'...
01 February 2006, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Errrrm, well, I do know that a full tank gets me 380 miles on a run before needing filling .............. nowt wrong with that!
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Welcome to the real world
01 February 2006, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by flynnstudio
On a run!!! Don't you mean 237.5 'runs'...
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01 February 2006, 07:59 PM
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So 320 pre tank ~24mpg. More like what everyone else gets.
Echo, 'welcome to the REAL world' of Subaru ownership..!
FFS AWE need to re-check a **** load of ICBM's if you ask me..!
Echo, 'welcome to the REAL world' of Subaru ownership..!
FFS AWE need to re-check a **** load of ICBM's if you ask me..!
01 February 2006, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
No, those runs get me about 320 miles to a tank ....... 380 is on a run
Pete
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(plus of course £15 on oil and £2.50 on Wurthers originals...)
add insurance which I'm sure costs you about £120 somehow, tax £165,
I'll estimate £100 for fuel when towing your caravan to cornwall twice a year...
which means your annual car running costs are in the region of
£492.50...
Incredible!!
01 February 2006, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by flynnstudio
So what your basically telling us that you spend approximately £90 a year on fuel to get to work and back!!!
(plus of course £15 on oil and £2.50 on Wurthers originals...)
add insurance which I'm sure costs you about £120 somehow, tax £165,
I'll estimate £100 for fuel when towing your caravan to cornwall twice a year...
which means your annual car running costs are in the region of
£492.50...
Incredible!!
(plus of course £15 on oil and £2.50 on Wurthers originals...)
add insurance which I'm sure costs you about £120 somehow, tax £165,
I'll estimate £100 for fuel when towing your caravan to cornwall twice a year...
which means your annual car running costs are in the region of
£492.50...
Incredible!!
(the TAX is £170!)Bloody hell!!!!
Thanks for letting me know it was THAT much, I will have to cut that down somehow
Pete
01 February 2006, 08:35 PM
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don't forget your MOD petrol allowance at 31p a mile is a deduction of £198.40
which is a total of £299.10
I also expect you charge your 'car share' £20 a month...£240
Real Total : £59.10!!!
Just as well your 'celebrity guest speaker' QVC shopping channel fee's from comma oil net's you a cool £2K a year!
which is a total of £299.10
I also expect you charge your 'car share' £20 a month...£240
Real Total : £59.10!!!
Just as well your 'celebrity guest speaker' QVC shopping channel fee's from comma oil net's you a cool £2K a year!
01 February 2006, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by flynnstudio
don't forget your MOD petrol allowance at 31p a mile is a deduction of £198.40
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01 February 2006, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GrahamG
lol, think it might be veg based....
02 February 2006, 12:42 PM
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So?? Shell Helix is ALSO a Group III Hydro-cracked Oil??
Amazing ...... so, basically, by Subaru recommending Shell Helix - they are ALSO recommending Halfords and Comma at £15 for 5 Litres??
But, it CAN'T be any good ...... it's TOO cheap!!
Please COMMA, can you re-package your standard £15 Oil in a carton called RALLYX and sell it for £59:99?? ........... some clowns on here will buy it and extol its virtues
Some people, eh?? Haven't a clue!!!
Pete
Amazing ...... so, basically, by Subaru recommending Shell Helix - they are ALSO recommending Halfords and Comma at £15 for 5 Litres??
But, it CAN'T be any good ...... it's TOO cheap!!
Please COMMA, can you re-package your standard £15 Oil in a carton called RALLYX and sell it for £59:99?? ........... some clowns on here will buy it and extol its virtues
Some people, eh?? Haven't a clue!!!
Pete
02 February 2006, 12:45 PM
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On this post someone asked about Shell oil.
I e-mailed them and have recieved this response.
Good morning Martin
Shell Helix Ultra 5W/40 is a grade 3 synthetic oil. Group 4 contains PAO. Hope this helps.
If there is anything else you require please contact the Customer Service Centre.
Regards
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Customer Service Lubricants Advisor
Business & Technical Team
Shell U.K. Oil Products
End of quote:
And for interest its £32.99 for 5 litres.
So Halfords is classIII
Comma is Class III
Millers XFS is class III
and Shell Helix Ultra is class III.
There must be an awful lot of cars driving about with this oil in them.
Presumably not seizing up all the time.
And to clarify they are hydrocracked mineral oil not a vegtable based cooking oil as some people seem to think!!!
Vegtable based oil would be much like Castrol R racing oil.
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I e-mailed them and have recieved this response.
Good morning Martin
Shell Helix Ultra 5W/40 is a grade 3 synthetic oil. Group 4 contains PAO. Hope this helps.
If there is anything else you require please contact the Customer Service Centre.
Regards
********
Customer Service Lubricants Advisor
Business & Technical Team
Shell U.K. Oil Products
End of quote:
And for interest its £32.99 for 5 litres.
So Halfords is classIII
Comma is Class III
Millers XFS is class III
and Shell Helix Ultra is class III.
There must be an awful lot of cars driving about with this oil in them.
Presumably not seizing up all the time.
And to clarify they are hydrocracked mineral oil not a vegtable based cooking oil as some people seem to think!!!
Vegtable based oil would be much like Castrol R racing oil.
Cheers
MTR
02 February 2006, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Errrrm, well, I do know that a full tank gets me 380 miles on a run before needing filling .............. nowt wrong with that!
Pete
Pete
Not this time.. want to boot it a bit..
G.
02 February 2006, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MTR
So Halfords is classIII
Comma is Class III
Millers XFS is class III
and Shell Helix Ultra is class III.
Cheers
MTR
Comma is Class III
Millers XFS is class III
and Shell Helix Ultra is class III.
Cheers
MTR
I am currently running this oil in my STi PPP for the winter as I could'nt obtain CFS 5/40 at the time.
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02 February 2006, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnD
In your original post you said that Millers response was that XFS 5/40 was a mixture of class III and IV(PAO) Does this alter its classification or does it remain in class III?
I am currently running this oil in my STi PPP for the winter as I could'nt obtain CFS 5/40 at the time.
JohnD
I am currently running this oil in my STi PPP for the winter as I could'nt obtain CFS 5/40 at the time.
JohnD
I probably shouldn't state catagorically that it is Class III, but if it was a PAO synthetic, then there would be no need to mention the Class III in their reply.
It seems pretty reasonable to assume its a Class III synthetic, and the response is deliberately misleading but its still a perfectly good oil.
Cheers
MTR
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