Triggaaar

Nice to see an apology - I'm not sure about their not making any money comments though - don't they charge people to advertise on their site?

Webmaster,
If they are after our support, and are sincere in their apology, I suggest they do some advertising on Scoobynet - could you suggest this to them - I'm sure they'd get lots of hits of the friendly sort.

Shark

I too was angry

But....

Thanks webmaster, you did a great job, and it was nice to see them say sorry, hopefully it won't happen again.

David

Rob W

Me too!

johnfelstead

Lets not over react and all remove our email addresses.

I have been on this BBS for one year and this is the first time i have been spamed.

It's very usefull to have a contact email address in case you need some info quickly.

Well done Simon, handled this very profesionally (the barstuards)

One year with my scooby Party time LOL

schuey

Yeah, I got it too!!!
Not impressed.
Read it, deleted it!

adge

iTrader: (22)

Got one as well, but after seeing the furore it caused I'm sure others will think twice before trying the same.

Nigel Bowles

Me too.
Nice to see action being taken.

DocJock

Got one too.
As Schuey said, read it, deleted it, took 30 secs, mental note never to have anything to do with Powerseeker.
Life is too short to get stressed about it.

DJ

CharlieWhiskey

Yep, me too, deleted it as soon as I saw the name (I had seen this thread but not read it).

Thanks Simon, another job well done!

Chris

Nick

web-xl.com are definately involved in powerseeker. I got a nice rude message from phil@web-xl.com

Strangly although the Scoobynet webmaster claims to have received an apology from powerseeker, why have they not apologised to anyone else? Unless of course a rude email is counted as an apology?

The fact is they <B>have</B> carried out an unlawful act. They sat down & decided how to increase their site hits. They decided against spending money on advertising & instead decided to steal the email addresses from other more successful web sites for their own gain.

What is unusual is this sort of activity is normally carried out by individuals who must hide in annominity because of their activities. Is it a redeming factor that powerseeker are also stupid? I feel it is not.

The email stripping <B>will</B> happen again. Next time our addresses will be stolen by someone who has more sense. This is the reason that my email address is now hidden.

robski

Ive got a mate who works for symantec
I will get him to "lend" me a virus thats not had the anti virus updates made available yet, see how they like my mail!
probably as much as I liked theirs!

ps. Im only joking, or am I

robski

chiark

Yep, me too, twice. Not happy. However:

Could I suggest that people do not mail bomb this company or try to launch a distributed denial of service attack?

This would be an offence under the computer misuse act, and be a criminal offence. I suggest that we close this thread or edit such posts, as otherwise Scoobynet may be seen to be promoting such action.

(Moderator hat on now)

MorayMackenzie

Well done Powerseeker... you've probably lost any buisiness you may have had from me to.

ca

I remember a coleague who got so p***** off with people sending junk faxes that he tracked down a fax number for them (on the pretence of wanting to place an order) and then sent them a 50 page blank fax to their sales number, on a Friday evening. The fax was sent via a PC and was sent in 'reverse' mode. (i.e. instead of coming out white it came out black. all 50 sheets were black)

The objective being to have their fax machine run out of toner which I understand is quite expensive.

I would imagine it also ends up blocking their sales line fax number, as without toner I would imagine it would be pretty hard to receive other (genuine orders?) faxes.

I condonde such activities in the strongest possible terms. ;-)

C

Stuart H

Nick,

Any chance of seeing this 'nice' e-mail from Mr. Web-XL?

BTW, did you get any sort of reply from

Nick

Stuart

No reply from Enta.net

No reply from Powerseeker

Reply from phil@web-xl.com - who I have not emailed. I'm not sure if he's saying sorry...

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Return-path: <phil@web-xl.com>
Envelope-to: nick@nickhill.net
Delivery-date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 08:26:51 +0100
Received: from [212.159.2.66] (helo=ruin.servers.plus.net.uk)
by mserv1e.vianw.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #37)
id 13hRu6-00033F-00
for nick@nickhill.net; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 08:26:50 +0100
Received: (qmail 7101 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2000 07:30:07 -0000
Received: from warrior-outbound.servers.plus.net (212.159.14.227)
by ruin.servers.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 6 Oct 2000 07:30:07 -0000
Received: (qmail 22812 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2000 07:26:39 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO philnew) (212.159.50.225)
by warrior with SMTP; 6 Oct 2000 07:26:39 -0000
Reply-To: <phil@web-xl.com>
From: "Phil" <phil@web-xl.com>
To: "'Nick Hill'" <nick@nickhill.net>
Subject: RE: Subaru
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 08:34:48 +0100
Message-ID: <0123244B0DA7D3119D57525405E216A6027629@WEB-XL-SERVER.web-xl>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C02F6F.4BC5BF60"
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
Importance: Normal
In-Reply-To: <0123244B0DA7D3119D57525405E216A6051F69@WEB-XL-SERVER.web-xl>

Yeah F**k you too Funny B*****d
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(Without the asterisks)

[This message has been edited by Nick (edited 06 October 2000).]

ex-webby

Nick

The apology can be seen above.

I would like to say that any activity similar to email bombs will only serve to bring this community into disrepute.

I strongly opose and such activity.

They have done something wrong and they have "genuinely" apologised.

They have also agreed to remove all the email addresses. Can we leave it at that?

regards

webmaster

chiark

Hmm. Just visited the site. The following banner advert was presented...

<img src=http://www.powerseeker.co.uk/images/anijamer.gif>

Advertising a warez site? This must be violating all sorts of ISP agreements... Do *not* mail bomb them, but if you feel aggrieved send a complaint to their ISP as StuartH has recommended above.

Nick

Why is it that everyone knows about mail bombs apart from me?!?!?!?!

Stuart H

Apologies for being a complete doofus, but what is a 'warez' site??

BTW - Done a bit of digging and found out that Web-XL and Powerseeker have the same registered address in Hereford. Just got home and found I 've also had a 'polite' e-mail from them telling me to f*** off etc etc. Not amused at all.

[This message has been edited by Stuart H (edited 06 October 2000).]

chiark

Warez = illegal copies of software. Also available, apparently, are serial numbers for software.

Most/all ISPs have a "no spam/no warez/..." as part of their terms of use to protect them from legal action. Breach of these conditions normally results in someone losing their account.

KimA

Also got the mail - opened up (as appeared to be Subaru related) and deleted.

Cheers for taking this up for us Simon.

merlin

Also received the email & I responded with:

PLEASE DO NOT SEND ANY FURTHER EMAILS TO THIS ADDRESS. YOUR SPAM IS NOT
APPRECIATED. I HAVE NO INTENTION OF EVER VISITING YOUR WEB SITE & I MAKE
NO APOLOGIES FOR SHOUTING.

to which I received a very short response of:

apologies.

removed.

CharlesW

Yes. I just got home from a trip to Norway. I checked my mail and the spam from powerseekers was there.

Mark Underwood

Me too...back from London, opened it up and junked it. Never ever heard of them

Blow Dog

Ditto.

I replied to them with the following letter:

Dear Sirs,

***** *** ** ** ***** *** **** *** *** *** **
So unless you agree to my terms, **** *** **, **** ********* *** ** ******, ****.


Thanks

Cem

ChrisB

Seen as they appear to be promoting illegal software, then a quick word with the Business Software Alliance (BSA) (http://www.bsa.org/uk/about/) might be in order.....

Actually, a quick look at the records for the advertised warez site (jamer.co.uk) shows it's the same muppets:

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Web server

Nick

I sent another email to Enta.net last night after I found that the Jamer site was the same people as Powerseeker/Web-XL.com

WillieF

Just to add to the BSA thing.

I am 99% sure that enta.net is owned by enta tachnologies

ex-webby

OK, OK

Let's leave this be now...

There is no point in starting something which will benefit nobody.

We are as volnerable to malicious attacks (as was experienced for about an hour on Thursday) as any other web site.

Shall we just be grateful that it is all sorted now?

I'm going to close this thread as it is doing us no good as a community.

Best regards

webmaster