Same sex adoption
30 December 2005, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rannoch
As you have introduced pedantry you will find that felching and ******* are practices 'enjoyed' by heterosexuals and homosexuals alike. They certainly are not exclusive to the gay community.
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Surely not !And Felching is what JF used to do to his Westfield
30 December 2005, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sociopath
Let me guess.... Dutch, right? 
30 December 2005, 05:41 PM
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Ignoring some of the **** posted, Its not right and shouldnt be legal.
My two pence.. and dont try arguing, Im from yorkshire.. so Im right!
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My two pence.. and dont try arguing, Im from yorkshire.. so Im right!
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30 December 2005, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rannoch
As you have introduced pedantry you will find that felching and ******* are practices 'enjoyed' by heterosexuals and homosexuals alike. They certainly are not exclusive to the gay community.
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30 December 2005, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sociopath
That's nice 
They never told you they were proud, did they?
They never told you they were proud, did they?
Mind you I didn't choose to be adopted but you did choose to be a bigot
30 December 2005, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by David_Wallis
Ignoring some of the **** posted, Its not right and shouldnt be legal.
My two pence.. and dont try arguing, Im from yorkshire.. so Im right!
David
My two pence.. and dont try arguing, Im from yorkshire.. so Im right!
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Get back in the garage and get that car sorted
30 December 2005, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000TLondon
Sociopath, I imagine you are a very lonely person.
30 December 2005, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sociopath
Why's that then? Because some no hoper on scoobynet doesn't like me? Anyone you don't like must be lonely right? Yes I weep myself to sleep..... mate!
I feel sorry for you..... mate!
30 December 2005, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin_Aimless
Fair comment. Let's stick with good old 'man on man' Sodomy then. The thought of a young child being part of a so called 'family' where this sort of activity goes on is, err... disturbing to say the least...
Apart from that, I do hope your imaginary children don't have to take part in your sexual actions with your imaginary wife. After all, they did invent doors.
30 December 2005, 05:57 PM
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No, that's that Suresh guy.
I just live here. I'm not Dutch - that would be my missus.
Absolutely nothing wrong with cloggie birds I can assure you!!
Just as there's nothing wrong with a stable ' married' couple adopting an unwanted child and giving it a chance in life.
30 December 2005, 05:57 PM
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So, back to my original question. What would you tell your newly adopted son?
Rannoch, you can go first. What would you say to your son when he asks why his two daddies make grunting noises in the night and why he can't have a toy gun?
Rannoch, you can go first. What would you say to your son when he asks why his two daddies make grunting noises in the night and why he can't have a toy gun?
30 December 2005, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sociopath
So, back to my original question. What would you tell your newly adopted son?
Rannoch, you can go first. What would you say to your son when he asks why his two daddies make grunting noises in the night and why he can't have a toy gun?
Rannoch, you can go first. What would you say to your son when he asks why his two daddies make grunting noises in the night and why he can't have a toy gun?
30 December 2005, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000TLondon
I'd say count yourself lucky sociopath didn't adopt you.......
"Yes daddy, I know you don't like sociopath on scoobynet, but WHY do I have two daddies and WHY must I play with dolls?"
come on parent of the year... deal with it!
30 December 2005, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 4x4chris
couple of things, BigMan...
I see what you are saying, but in order for attitudes to change then these things need to happen. I mean a child that has say, to wear glasses, is fat, is deformed etc etc... They are also destined to a school life of bullying...
Granted, it is not going to be a normal existence for them... but then how many children from a straight background have a normal upbringing?
As for the possilibity that some couples might only do it for sake of fashion etc, then yes that is perfectly feasible... but again, this sort of reasoning is no doubt used by straight couples all the time.
Im sorry, but homosexuality is normal. Its a fact of life, has been since humans were around. And is also prevalent in the animal kingdom. If that is not normal, i don't know what it is. I think your definition of 'normal' comes from what is currently socially acceptable. And i think my point on slavery, racial segragation comes in here. At the time that was social acceptable, and it was therefore 'normal' to look down on people from ethnic backgrounds.
Everybody seems to have this image of a gay couple being a pair of mincing idiots who have no idea of commitment, and love etc; this image no doubt enforced by how gay people are portrayed in the media. And yes, these people do exist. Just like there are straight couples out there that dont have a clue....
Dont tar everyone with the same brush.
Embrace change, in this case it is definitely a good thing. Sure, some kids are going to get bullied for it at school. But kids are very good at finding any little 'abnormal' thing about you, so whose to say they wouldn't get bullied anyway?
I see what you are saying, but in order for attitudes to change then these things need to happen. I mean a child that has say, to wear glasses, is fat, is deformed etc etc... They are also destined to a school life of bullying...
Granted, it is not going to be a normal existence for them... but then how many children from a straight background have a normal upbringing?
As for the possilibity that some couples might only do it for sake of fashion etc, then yes that is perfectly feasible... but again, this sort of reasoning is no doubt used by straight couples all the time.
Im sorry, but homosexuality is normal. Its a fact of life, has been since humans were around. And is also prevalent in the animal kingdom. If that is not normal, i don't know what it is. I think your definition of 'normal' comes from what is currently socially acceptable. And i think my point on slavery, racial segragation comes in here. At the time that was social acceptable, and it was therefore 'normal' to look down on people from ethnic backgrounds.
Everybody seems to have this image of a gay couple being a pair of mincing idiots who have no idea of commitment, and love etc; this image no doubt enforced by how gay people are portrayed in the media. And yes, these people do exist. Just like there are straight couples out there that dont have a clue....
Dont tar everyone with the same brush.
Embrace change, in this case it is definitely a good thing. Sure, some kids are going to get bullied for it at school. But kids are very good at finding any little 'abnormal' thing about you, so whose to say they wouldn't get bullied anyway?
I'm not among those who just think that all homosexual couples are a pair of mincing idiots (there's usually 1 mincer and 1 masculine one btw....joke).
On the bullying point, I feel that they "may" be bullied, however in this situatin it's a guarantee IMO.
I think to summarize, I would have no problems this happening if attitudes were different, however I feel that attitudes need to be changed before same sex couples are allowed to adopt as opposed to using same sex couples adoptions as a means of changing those attitudes (if you see what I mean).
Good debate!! Hope it stays on track. Good debating, Chris.
30 December 2005, 06:06 PM
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I am really not sure how sexual preference relates to the possession of a toy gun. Or is that what your mummy told you her Jessica Rabbit was when you caught her using it
On a more serious note what to say to a child would depend very much on their age. Just like it would with any form of couple who were discussing relationships.
Evidence would suggest parents ability to discuss relationships and sexuality depends on their confidence not their sexual preference. There are many traditional couples who have no clue how to communicate to their children about these subjects.
On a more serious note what to say to a child would depend very much on their age. Just like it would with any form of couple who were discussing relationships.
Evidence would suggest parents ability to discuss relationships and sexuality depends on their confidence not their sexual preference. There are many traditional couples who have no clue how to communicate to their children about these subjects.
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30 December 2005, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rannoch
Oi, son!!
Get back in the garage and get that car sorted
Get back in the garage and get that car sorted
Too cold though
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30 December 2005, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sociopath
That wouldn't answer his question though, would it.
"Yes daddy, I know you don't like sociopath on scoobynet, but WHY do I have two daddies and WHY must I play with dolls?"
come on parent of the year... deal with it!
"Yes daddy, I know you don't like sociopath on scoobynet, but WHY do I have two daddies and WHY must I play with dolls?"
come on parent of the year... deal with it!
If the children of heterosexual couples ask about the relationships of their parents friends, surely it would be explained to them if they are old enough.
When the child is at an age when he has to know the facts of life, I don't see how it would be difficult to explain.
Try "We're your parents, we love you, you love us, we love each other......."
Also, I don't think playing with Barbie would be forced upon the child, and also I don't really think that would cause the child to join a gay drag queen cabaret in Ibiza.
30 December 2005, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000TLondon
Most people these days will have relatives, friends, colleauges, acquaintances who are openly homosexual.
30 December 2005, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sociopath
Speak for yourself
30 December 2005, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by sociopath
and bringing up a child to be gay is as bad as bringing up a child to be a religious nutter in my book
Do you mean the fanatics who are killing innocent people with terrorism?
30 December 2005, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000TLondon
Could you quickly explain what you mean by religious nutter?
Do you mean the fanatics who are killing innocent people with terrorism?
Do you mean the fanatics who are killing innocent people with terrorism?
30 December 2005, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sociopath
I mean parents who bring their kids up to be muslims. I know if I were a kid I'd want no part of it. Neither would I be interested in embroidery, kittens and/or Jessica rabbit.
So all people who bring their kids up to be Muslim (Muslim people) are religious nutters?
And gays are "as bad as" Muslims in your opinion?
Very well done mate, at least there is now no doubt that you are completely and utterly insane!
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Sociopath,
so is it only Muslims who can be religious nutters? Or can Christians, Jews, Hindus, Bahais, Buddhists, Taoists or any other religious groupings join in?
Maybe it is only if you have a religion AND are not white - is that how it works?
Just curious?
Oh, and please explain the importance of the toy gun - we all wait with bated breath
Rannoch
so is it only Muslims who can be religious nutters? Or can Christians, Jews, Hindus, Bahais, Buddhists, Taoists or any other religious groupings join in?
Maybe it is only if you have a religion AND are not white - is that how it works?
Just curious?
Oh, and please explain the importance of the toy gun - we all wait with bated breath
Rannoch
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Originally Posted by sociopath
I mean parents who bring their kids up to be muslims. I know if I were a kid I'd want no part of it. Neither would I be interested in embroidery, kittens and/or Jessica rabbit.
In for a penny, in for a pound sociopath!