Bentley 2002 - questions for you.
13 June 2001, 05:59 PM
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Who organises SIDC events who who who who.....
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Markus:
<B>Is it a bit off? well maybe, but maybe what is off is the fact that SIDC did not organise the event themselves, for whatever reason. This was my point from day one.
Anyway, SuzyQ has said that she is more than happy to organise a meet a bentley for next year for us scooby owners, so if you have any comments, please email her (see her profile for her email address).
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Obviousely, the man from SIDC
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Markus:
<B>Is it a bit off? well maybe, but maybe what is off is the fact that SIDC did not organise the event themselves, for whatever reason. This was my point from day one.
Anyway, SuzyQ has said that she is more than happy to organise a meet a bentley for next year for us scooby owners, so if you have any comments, please email her (see her profile for her email address).
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Obviousely, the man from SIDC
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13 June 2001, 07:00 PM
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mr.peter croney,
i expect you were waiting for me to reply.
if you , in your sheltered world thought for one second that that was a rude and personal post in put up , then i pity you for your naivety.
do you read all the messages that are posted?..i suggest you take a few moments to back track and re-read some of the comments that have arisen from markus' original post.
just a few moments..surely you can take a break from your sexist, abusive, and thoroughly unpalatable comments to do that?
if you were upset by my comments, surely i have the right to be doubly unhappy with your ranting....and the crack about making someone a good wife?..i will not lower myself to your level.i find it hard to stoop that low..sewers dont have much headroom..so ive heard...
if you would like to discuss the points at hand and not fall off into chauvinistic abuse and patronisation, then i am quite prepared to do so...
if you can spare the time to re-read the above , you might just realise that your sidc 'see no evil . hear no evil, speak no evil ' mentality is wearing thin among those of us who either enjoy these meetings, or love our cars , or both...
believe me mr.croney, i can get just as abusive as you obviously can..but i reserve the right to consider you a fool if you continue to avoid the issue, looking for a weak link to attack instead...i am not such a link..do not make that mistake a second time...!
i expect you were waiting for me to reply.
if you , in your sheltered world thought for one second that that was a rude and personal post in put up , then i pity you for your naivety.
do you read all the messages that are posted?..i suggest you take a few moments to back track and re-read some of the comments that have arisen from markus' original post.
just a few moments..surely you can take a break from your sexist, abusive, and thoroughly unpalatable comments to do that?
if you were upset by my comments, surely i have the right to be doubly unhappy with your ranting....and the crack about making someone a good wife?..i will not lower myself to your level.i find it hard to stoop that low..sewers dont have much headroom..so ive heard...
if you would like to discuss the points at hand and not fall off into chauvinistic abuse and patronisation, then i am quite prepared to do so...
if you can spare the time to re-read the above , you might just realise that your sidc 'see no evil . hear no evil, speak no evil ' mentality is wearing thin among those of us who either enjoy these meetings, or love our cars , or both...
believe me mr.croney, i can get just as abusive as you obviously can..but i reserve the right to consider you a fool if you continue to avoid the issue, looking for a weak link to attack instead...i am not such a link..do not make that mistake a second time...!
13 June 2001, 07:14 PM
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your points were well made and worth considering.
i do think you maybe are missing one vital point though...or maybe you can tell me if i am the one missing the point.?
should things really be a case of... 'why does there have to be a committee member there all the time?'...or should they be a case of...' oh hell, try and stop us being there...!!'...?
maybe now i am showing a little 'croney naivety' myself, but shouldnt the sidc committee members be lining up first in the queue to get into these meets??
if not then why are they on the committee if they dont feel as passionate about the cars and the interaction between members as the members themselves do?
i wonder if this has made anything clearer?
i for one would have no problem with sidc, if they would show a little enthusiasm for life ,liberty and the price of fish in abbysinia..
sadly it seems this is rarely the case now...
and as much as this may seem like i am one voice in the wilderness, read some of the other comments and you will see as many ay's as you will nay's...isnt there something in what i have brought up then?
my continued presence here may well be in the hands of the moderators now, but i defy you to say that it is one crazy woman ranting on about nothing......
your points were well made and worth considering.
i do think you maybe are missing one vital point though...or maybe you can tell me if i am the one missing the point.?
should things really be a case of... 'why does there have to be a committee member there all the time?'...or should they be a case of...' oh hell, try and stop us being there...!!'...?
maybe now i am showing a little 'croney naivety' myself, but shouldnt the sidc committee members be lining up first in the queue to get into these meets??
if not then why are they on the committee if they dont feel as passionate about the cars and the interaction between members as the members themselves do?
i wonder if this has made anything clearer?
i for one would have no problem with sidc, if they would show a little enthusiasm for life ,liberty and the price of fish in abbysinia..
sadly it seems this is rarely the case now...
and as much as this may seem like i am one voice in the wilderness, read some of the other comments and you will see as many ay's as you will nay's...isnt there something in what i have brought up then?
my continued presence here may well be in the hands of the moderators now, but i defy you to say that it is one crazy woman ranting on about nothing......
13 June 2001, 07:38 PM
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Fair point, but, there are only what 8 committee members and only a few of them are active on the curcuit so to speak...
Perhaps therein lies the problem, perhaps the 'active' committee is only interested in Track Days and Motorsport? If thats how others see it, I guess we'll be seeing a lot of nominations for committee posts at the next AGM from people keen on promoting an SIDC social scene? Will anyone take this on?
I guess one of the reasons I'm so sensitive on the subject is that I used to chair a branch of a national sports and social club, a post in which, you work your nuts off for very little thanks whilst the members sat back and expected the committee to hand everything to them on a plate... the club motto 'Run by the members for the members' not the practical reality. Its easy to sit back and criticise (generalisation here, I agree some of your points are valid), its difficult to run a club of this nature.
What really concerns me here is that people are actively organising great events, such as Bentley, which could be an SIDC event (up to the organiser really). But rather than embracing SIDC people seem to be crusading against it. Its almost as if a separate Scoobynet club is springing up as the anti-SIDC (non-SIDC?)
Perhaps the committee should look at themselves and ask why this is happening. Perhaps the committee is viewed as an unapproachable ivory tower, I don't know, Ive always found the committee most helpful. Perhaps more encouragement should be given to members to organise events on behalf of SIDC, maybe more incentive?
Im trying desperately hard not to rant, but make useful points. I hope what I have said makes sense.
James.
PS. You are definately a crazy woman
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by SuzyQ:
<B>should things really be a case of... 'why does there have to be a committee member there all the time?'...or should they be a case of...' oh hell, try and stop us being there...!!'...?
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Perhaps therein lies the problem, perhaps the 'active' committee is only interested in Track Days and Motorsport? If thats how others see it, I guess we'll be seeing a lot of nominations for committee posts at the next AGM from people keen on promoting an SIDC social scene? Will anyone take this on?
I guess one of the reasons I'm so sensitive on the subject is that I used to chair a branch of a national sports and social club, a post in which, you work your nuts off for very little thanks whilst the members sat back and expected the committee to hand everything to them on a plate... the club motto 'Run by the members for the members' not the practical reality. Its easy to sit back and criticise (generalisation here, I agree some of your points are valid), its difficult to run a club of this nature.
What really concerns me here is that people are actively organising great events, such as Bentley, which could be an SIDC event (up to the organiser really). But rather than embracing SIDC people seem to be crusading against it. Its almost as if a separate Scoobynet club is springing up as the anti-SIDC (non-SIDC?)
Perhaps the committee should look at themselves and ask why this is happening. Perhaps the committee is viewed as an unapproachable ivory tower, I don't know, Ive always found the committee most helpful. Perhaps more encouragement should be given to members to organise events on behalf of SIDC, maybe more incentive?
Im trying desperately hard not to rant, but make useful points. I hope what I have said makes sense.
James.
PS. You are definately a crazy woman
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by SuzyQ:
<B>should things really be a case of... 'why does there have to be a committee member there all the time?'...or should they be a case of...' oh hell, try and stop us being there...!!'...?
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13 June 2001, 09:01 PM
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I am becoming increasingly dismayed at the tone of this discussion. There are a lot of enthusiasts on this board and in the SIDC, and many of us benefit from the efforts of the few who make the effort to organise events. Some of the language used is a disgrace and has no place in adult company, let alone the potential for it to be read by children.
My own impression is that the SIDC committee concentrate largely on the trackday events, and that social arrive-and-park events are left to regions to organise. This is no bad thing, but I currently do not intend to drive on a circuit, and I only attend the social events like Bentley, where I can see the host of modifications people make to their cars.
Bentley is an unusual case in that we piggy-backed onto the organisation done by the Porsche owners. I would thank Markus for making the telephone call and posting so many threads, and also the SIDC for organising the £5 food contribution. However, I am sure there is a lot more involved in actually organising an event from scratch, and I’m not sure the contribution was really necessary, other than as a token gesture. On the day there was no organisation of any kind – people parked where they pleased and no “event” happened while I was there, other than a few people disappearing to the local pub.
If I were still a member of SIDC (I joined in June last year, paid a full year’s fee and it lasted only three months) I would be a little miffed that the club’s funds were being squandered on something like this rather than investing in something worthwhile like a club insurance policy, which would both help members and help to grow membership.
So can’t we all just stop to take breath and consider that there are people with a wide range of interests within this community, and at the moment the club is not large enough to cater for everyone’s requirements. If we can continue to grow numbers, we should surely reach a stage where more people can take part in the activities they enjoy.
On a lighter note, at Bentley on Sunday, I took a young lad who is very proud of his Citroen AX. He reads Redline as it is “more upmarket” than Max Power. I remarked that with all the mods I had seen that day, and despite the banter about the Max Power brigade, we are a really only “Max Power – the Next Generation”. The Porsche owners were probably the grey generation, though judging from Dan’s pictures of the event (in which I feature) I can’t say much!
it.
My own impression is that the SIDC committee concentrate largely on the trackday events, and that social arrive-and-park events are left to regions to organise. This is no bad thing, but I currently do not intend to drive on a circuit, and I only attend the social events like Bentley, where I can see the host of modifications people make to their cars.
Bentley is an unusual case in that we piggy-backed onto the organisation done by the Porsche owners. I would thank Markus for making the telephone call and posting so many threads, and also the SIDC for organising the £5 food contribution. However, I am sure there is a lot more involved in actually organising an event from scratch, and I’m not sure the contribution was really necessary, other than as a token gesture. On the day there was no organisation of any kind – people parked where they pleased and no “event” happened while I was there, other than a few people disappearing to the local pub.
If I were still a member of SIDC (I joined in June last year, paid a full year’s fee and it lasted only three months) I would be a little miffed that the club’s funds were being squandered on something like this rather than investing in something worthwhile like a club insurance policy, which would both help members and help to grow membership.
So can’t we all just stop to take breath and consider that there are people with a wide range of interests within this community, and at the moment the club is not large enough to cater for everyone’s requirements. If we can continue to grow numbers, we should surely reach a stage where more people can take part in the activities they enjoy.
On a lighter note, at Bentley on Sunday, I took a young lad who is very proud of his Citroen AX. He reads Redline as it is “more upmarket” than Max Power. I remarked that with all the mods I had seen that day, and despite the banter about the Max Power brigade, we are a really only “Max Power – the Next Generation”. The Porsche owners were probably the grey generation, though judging from Dan’s pictures of the event (in which I feature) I can’t say much!
it.
13 June 2001, 11:11 PM
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ok lets get this straight shall we?..nothing about tone..nothing about sidc..or scooby net..or the two in conflict..nothing about committees..members...meetings....none of it.
i have just read the new thread by xrs, again mentioning the unsuitability of language used on these few threads...
please please..anyone else who feels like commenting on this go ahead...but at least do us all the courtesy of reading the threads first...can ANYONE TELL ME where the language has gotten out of hand??..ANYONE??,.
i myself have used as far as i am aware one word of swearing which i starred out as a matter of respect.and this is language most , if not all kids can hear on tv or certainly in the playground nowadays anyway, sadly.
so before the next samaritan in a white hat turns up and bemoans the harsh and coarse language of these threads..please go back and at least read them!!!..
hey..arent we all getting just a little fragile here...dont try ..dont even try to tell me that this is ripe language fro the scooby net!!..just dont dare...and i am pretty sure that those werent 'flipping hell's ' i was hearing at the bentley meet..!!hmm werent there some younger ears around then too??..
so can we all please give the ...pigging ..language bashing a rest before i do have to turn the air blue on you soft butter mouthed whingers...!!
there..no politics, as promised...
i have just read the new thread by xrs, again mentioning the unsuitability of language used on these few threads...
please please..anyone else who feels like commenting on this go ahead...but at least do us all the courtesy of reading the threads first...can ANYONE TELL ME where the language has gotten out of hand??..ANYONE??,.
i myself have used as far as i am aware one word of swearing which i starred out as a matter of respect.and this is language most , if not all kids can hear on tv or certainly in the playground nowadays anyway, sadly.
so before the next samaritan in a white hat turns up and bemoans the harsh and coarse language of these threads..please go back and at least read them!!!..
hey..arent we all getting just a little fragile here...dont try ..dont even try to tell me that this is ripe language fro the scooby net!!..just dont dare...and i am pretty sure that those werent 'flipping hell's ' i was hearing at the bentley meet..!!hmm werent there some younger ears around then too??..
so can we all please give the ...pigging ..language bashing a rest before i do have to turn the air blue on you soft butter mouthed whingers...!!
there..no politics, as promised...
14 June 2001, 03:02 AM
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come on without,
come on within,
you wont see nothin' like
the mighty quinn....
your comments were a little acidic dont you think?...what happened to trying to keep this thing impersonal?..nasty things were said...i only said sharp things...i think there is a difference..you have attacked my person..i accept that what has been said has been said without a full knowledge of the workings of your committee, simply an impression of the way things are..so if i have over stepped any boundaries , and if my own acidic comments have been taken too much to heart by some, then i offer an apology here...
but dont you know anything about the way progress is made?..it is the ones who are prepared to shake the tree that get the fruits to fall...think about that before you round on me for another attack..
if your job is that stressful then by all means take it out on me when you get home of an evening..i am not going to break just because you got me in your sites pal...
after all, why should you be bothered?
isnt it said that one monkey dont stop the show???
but i offer you the same advice here , before you do decide to never speak to this ..(what was it??..i am afriad i will have to paraphrase...)inconsiderate, selfish, knowledgeless, and unhelpful woman(fair paraphrase??).
read the threads..all of them..
and then ask around...and not just your friends, but ask around...i am not the only one who seems to be unhappy.
i am simply the one placing myself in the firing line.
fear not though, by tommorrow, it will be clear that no cavalry are coming to dig me outta this hole.
and a last thought, dont bring marcus into it.his thread it may be, but to post a thread attacking me, and in the same breath start on about marcus' offer of a place on the committee..or whatever it was you were going on about...this is my post..try to distinguish between the two in future...s.u.z.y.q....MARCUS....they dont even look the same!!..
and i think , unless the rest of the committee members would like a free shot , that is about all for me on this subject.
i will leave everyone with this thought...how many committee members turn up to the track meets??..
in an attempt to restore some kind of peace or at least stop things from turning even more hostile, i have edited this post down to a printable form...
this last section is a private message to the mighty himself
let it be understood that such a personal attack is not taken lightly mr quinn...i do not suffer fools gladly, and i do not accept personal abuse of such a vitriolic nature without a fight...but this is neither the place nor the time....
i would look for you at the next meet to discuss your opinions of my character further...but damn boy ..i doubt you'd be there...less it was a track meet of course!!!
come on within,
you wont see nothin' like
the mighty quinn....
your comments were a little acidic dont you think?...what happened to trying to keep this thing impersonal?..nasty things were said...i only said sharp things...i think there is a difference..you have attacked my person..i accept that what has been said has been said without a full knowledge of the workings of your committee, simply an impression of the way things are..so if i have over stepped any boundaries , and if my own acidic comments have been taken too much to heart by some, then i offer an apology here...
but dont you know anything about the way progress is made?..it is the ones who are prepared to shake the tree that get the fruits to fall...think about that before you round on me for another attack..
if your job is that stressful then by all means take it out on me when you get home of an evening..i am not going to break just because you got me in your sites pal...
after all, why should you be bothered?
isnt it said that one monkey dont stop the show???
but i offer you the same advice here , before you do decide to never speak to this ..(what was it??..i am afriad i will have to paraphrase...)inconsiderate, selfish, knowledgeless, and unhelpful woman(fair paraphrase??).
read the threads..all of them..
and then ask around...and not just your friends, but ask around...i am not the only one who seems to be unhappy.
i am simply the one placing myself in the firing line.
fear not though, by tommorrow, it will be clear that no cavalry are coming to dig me outta this hole.
and a last thought, dont bring marcus into it.his thread it may be, but to post a thread attacking me, and in the same breath start on about marcus' offer of a place on the committee..or whatever it was you were going on about...this is my post..try to distinguish between the two in future...s.u.z.y.q....MARCUS....they dont even look the same!!..
and i think , unless the rest of the committee members would like a free shot , that is about all for me on this subject.
i will leave everyone with this thought...how many committee members turn up to the track meets??..
in an attempt to restore some kind of peace or at least stop things from turning even more hostile, i have edited this post down to a printable form...
this last section is a private message to the mighty himself
let it be understood that such a personal attack is not taken lightly mr quinn...i do not suffer fools gladly, and i do not accept personal abuse of such a vitriolic nature without a fight...but this is neither the place nor the time....
i would look for you at the next meet to discuss your opinions of my character further...but damn boy ..i doubt you'd be there...less it was a track meet of course!!!
14 June 2001, 08:28 AM
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When I joined the SIDC I joined a DRIVERS club. When I registered with Scoobynet I effectively joined a social club. Where is the confusion? Why all the politics?
Why should a DRIVERS club focus on family friendly social functions?
Blimey, take a step back folks.
Chuck
Why should a DRIVERS club focus on family friendly social functions?
Blimey, take a step back folks.
Chuck
14 June 2001, 09:14 AM
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OK, OK, enough of the fighting. There will never be an end to this. So let's get back to what this thread is actually for, we'll ignore for the moment who will organise it and wether it's an 'officially endorsed' SIDC event.
Chuck,
Good point, however I thought, and had been given the impression that SIDC was drivers club, but that it was also trying to become a bit more of a social club as well, or am i mistaken?
anyway, enough of the sillyness, and yes, I did sort of initiate that.
Let's take the thread back to what it should have been.
hnnnnn, hnnnnn, Markus calling Tim, Markus calling Tim, come in Tim. Tim/Simon could you please now close this thread, and I will start a new one which should concentrate on the matter that this thread was intended to serve. Thank you
Chuck,
Good point, however I thought, and had been given the impression that SIDC was drivers club, but that it was also trying to become a bit more of a social club as well, or am i mistaken?
anyway, enough of the sillyness, and yes, I did sort of initiate that.
Let's take the thread back to what it should have been.
hnnnnn, hnnnnn, Markus calling Tim, Markus calling Tim, come in Tim. Tim/Simon could you please now close this thread, and I will start a new one which should concentrate on the matter that this thread was intended to serve. Thank you
14 June 2001, 09:36 AM
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Ladies and Gentlemen,
Very rarely do I post. Only when I feel I need to make a point do I do it.
What I feel that some people miss here is that people have jobs and lives before the club at the end of the day. The club does not pay it's committee members, they do this for free as a labour of love over and above the stresses and strains of daily life. If other people have been involved in running non-profit/non paying organisations over and above their daily jobs, family and social lives, you will know what I mean! The committe members can not be involved in everything, it has to fit in with their schedules. The committe members, from the AGM forwards, have the best intentions to make every meet and do the right thing by all the members, but daily living does not neccesarily allow those intentions to turn into reality.
Taking a step back, when Pete, Dick, Gareth and myself formed the SIDC from a small bunch of enthusiasts at a small Subaru dealership in Southend-on-Sea in Essex back in early 1997, we never envisaged it to grow to the size and have the success that it enjoys today. More people, more tasks, more admin. The time this takes up is horrendous. The reason why I stepped down from the committe is that my job would not allow me to dedicate the time to the size of the job it had become.
Yes the Scoobynet is a forum for debate and it should stay that way, but forums for debate should result in finding solutions not creating more issues.
My suggestion is that if someone feels that he/she (in no particular order) can do a better job or wants to assist or compliment the current committee structure, then this should be adressed and resolved at the next AGM to the MUTUAL BENEFIT OF THE CLUB, not indiidual members.
Everyone here does a great job and everyone is an enthusiast. Like minded people should create solutions, not issues.
We should not forget that.
I thank everyone for taking the time to read this.
Regards,
Stuart Petersen
Very rarely do I post. Only when I feel I need to make a point do I do it.
What I feel that some people miss here is that people have jobs and lives before the club at the end of the day. The club does not pay it's committee members, they do this for free as a labour of love over and above the stresses and strains of daily life. If other people have been involved in running non-profit/non paying organisations over and above their daily jobs, family and social lives, you will know what I mean! The committe members can not be involved in everything, it has to fit in with their schedules. The committe members, from the AGM forwards, have the best intentions to make every meet and do the right thing by all the members, but daily living does not neccesarily allow those intentions to turn into reality.
Taking a step back, when Pete, Dick, Gareth and myself formed the SIDC from a small bunch of enthusiasts at a small Subaru dealership in Southend-on-Sea in Essex back in early 1997, we never envisaged it to grow to the size and have the success that it enjoys today. More people, more tasks, more admin. The time this takes up is horrendous. The reason why I stepped down from the committe is that my job would not allow me to dedicate the time to the size of the job it had become.
Yes the Scoobynet is a forum for debate and it should stay that way, but forums for debate should result in finding solutions not creating more issues.
My suggestion is that if someone feels that he/she (in no particular order) can do a better job or wants to assist or compliment the current committee structure, then this should be adressed and resolved at the next AGM to the MUTUAL BENEFIT OF THE CLUB, not indiidual members.
Everyone here does a great job and everyone is an enthusiast. Like minded people should create solutions, not issues.
We should not forget that.
I thank everyone for taking the time to read this.
Regards,
Stuart Petersen
14 June 2001, 12:41 PM
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UN-BLOODY-BELIEVABLE!
I get home from another 16 hour day at work (includiing spending time organising travel for a NON-SIDC Subaru event) to find garbage like this being posted. What did you ever do for the club or other Subaru enthusiasts SuzyQ??? TELL US, I for one would love to know. I'd be surprised if you have ever done anything for anyone other than yourself.
We are trying to bring enthusiasts together and provide them with car-based activities, you seem to be intent on insulting the committee, belittling the members of the SIDC and dividing the community. Nice job Ace!
All committee members devote considerable amounts of their own personal time for no charge. They are enthusiasts trying to help other enthusiasts, there is no empire-building just hard work (and now personal abuse) in the name of helping others. All club funds are spent on the members and not one single penny has ever been claimed by a committee member to cover the expenses that they incur on behalf of the club.
Why wasn't I at Bentley? I would have loved to be there but I was bloody well working until 11:30pm and I think that everyone had probably gone home by then.
What more do you want from us??? We are looking for more volunteers to help organise SIDC events. Markus efforts were recognised and he was offered a position but declined realising what the post would entail. Being an SIDC organiser doesn't preclude you from attending or organising non-SIDC events. All SIDC events actively welcome all enthusiasts, whether Subaru or otherwise. So what is your problem???
You know, I really don't care. I'm not going to waste any more of my time on you other than to suggest that you should take a close look at yourself. Maybe you thought that you were being clever with your insulting comments. If you stand by them, then I can only believe that you are a deeply unpleasant or very stupid person. Have a nice life 'cos I don't want to speak to this SuzyQ ever again.
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I get home from another 16 hour day at work (includiing spending time organising travel for a NON-SIDC Subaru event) to find garbage like this being posted. What did you ever do for the club or other Subaru enthusiasts SuzyQ??? TELL US, I for one would love to know. I'd be surprised if you have ever done anything for anyone other than yourself.
We are trying to bring enthusiasts together and provide them with car-based activities, you seem to be intent on insulting the committee, belittling the members of the SIDC and dividing the community. Nice job Ace!
All committee members devote considerable amounts of their own personal time for no charge. They are enthusiasts trying to help other enthusiasts, there is no empire-building just hard work (and now personal abuse) in the name of helping others. All club funds are spent on the members and not one single penny has ever been claimed by a committee member to cover the expenses that they incur on behalf of the club.
Why wasn't I at Bentley? I would have loved to be there but I was bloody well working until 11:30pm and I think that everyone had probably gone home by then.
What more do you want from us??? We are looking for more volunteers to help organise SIDC events. Markus efforts were recognised and he was offered a position but declined realising what the post would entail. Being an SIDC organiser doesn't preclude you from attending or organising non-SIDC events. All SIDC events actively welcome all enthusiasts, whether Subaru or otherwise. So what is your problem???
You know, I really don't care. I'm not going to waste any more of my time on you other than to suggest that you should take a close look at yourself. Maybe you thought that you were being clever with your insulting comments. If you stand by them, then I can only believe that you are a deeply unpleasant or very stupid person. Have a nice life 'cos I don't want to speak to this SuzyQ ever again.
[This message has been edited by Tony Quinn (edited 14 June 2001).]
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Sorry to butt in but i would like to put a good word in for filching manor as a venue for a car club meet. (thanks to XRS for the plug )
My uncle (paul foulkes halbard) owns filching manor and his son Karl run the kart track. I can honestly say you will not find a more pleasent place to hold such an event. the museum is superb with loads of very interesting cars,bikes, and the bluebird K3 boat. give it a try you will not be dissapointed.
see the website for details but book early.
)My uncle (paul foulkes halbard) owns filching manor and his son Karl run the kart track. I can honestly say you will not find a more pleasent place to hold such an event. the museum is superb with loads of very interesting cars,bikes, and the bluebird K3 boat. give it a try you will not be dissapointed.
see the website for details but book early.
I hope Rye House is flat!!
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