We want our England back
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From: It's like finding a cocktail sausage, when what you really wanted was a rather large saveloy.
Originally Posted by turboman786
Stop whinging.
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LOL
And the point of the original post is????
And yes, the Union Flag is British, not English.
As a Scot, you are more than welcome to be "English"... its hard enough differentiating ourselves from "your" hooligans abroad as it is
And the point of the original post is????
And yes, the Union Flag is British, not English.
As a Scot, you are more than welcome to be "English"... its hard enough differentiating ourselves from "your" hooligans abroad as it is
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From: It's like finding a cocktail sausage, when what you really wanted was a rather large saveloy.
Originally Posted by Diablo
LOL
And the point of the original post is????
And yes, the Union Flag is British, not English.
As a Scot, you are more than welcome to be "English"... its hard enough differentiating ourselves from "your" hooligans abroad as it is
And the point of the original post is????
And yes, the Union Flag is British, not English.
As a Scot, you are more than welcome to be "English"... its hard enough differentiating ourselves from "your" hooligans abroad as it is
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Originally Posted by paulr
Too right,Scoobynet has too many moans about tax,sleaze,political correctness etc.F*ckin hell,most people have food to eat,a few quid in their pocket and somewhere to live.
You never had it so good.
LMAO
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I prefer this track by Skrewdriver
White power 1 - 2 - 3 - 4!
I stand watch my country, going down the drain
We are all at fault, we are all to blame
We're letting them takeover, we just let 'em come
Once we had an Empire, and now we've got a slum
(chorus)
White Power! For England
White Power! Today
White Power! For Britain
Before it gets too late
Well we've seen a lot of riots, we just sit and scoff
We've seen a lot of muggings, and the judges let 'em off
(chorus)
Well we've gotta do something, to try and stop the rot
And the traitors that have used us, they should all be shot
(chorus)
middle eight:
Are we gonna sit and let them come?
Have they got the White man on the run?
Multi-racial society is a mess
We ain't gonna take much more of this
What do we need?
(chorus)
Well if we don't win our battle, and all does not go well
It's apocalypse for Britain, and we'll see you all in hell
(chorus) x2
It's ok to come on here and support Labour, Conservative, Liberal etc but people don't like an "alternative" view. There's nothing wrong with being proud of being English and white although others would have you believe differently.
White power 1 - 2 - 3 - 4!
I stand watch my country, going down the drain
We are all at fault, we are all to blame
We're letting them takeover, we just let 'em come
Once we had an Empire, and now we've got a slum
(chorus)
White Power! For England
White Power! Today
White Power! For Britain
Before it gets too late
Well we've seen a lot of riots, we just sit and scoff
We've seen a lot of muggings, and the judges let 'em off
(chorus)
Well we've gotta do something, to try and stop the rot
And the traitors that have used us, they should all be shot
(chorus)
middle eight:
Are we gonna sit and let them come?
Have they got the White man on the run?
Multi-racial society is a mess
We ain't gonna take much more of this
What do we need?
(chorus)
Well if we don't win our battle, and all does not go well
It's apocalypse for Britain, and we'll see you all in hell
(chorus) x2
It's ok to come on here and support Labour, Conservative, Liberal etc but people don't like an "alternative" view. There's nothing wrong with being proud of being English and white although others would have you believe differently.
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Originally Posted by M444GY
cant say black board anymore ....... chalk board !!! bet u can say white board though!!
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Originally Posted by GaryCat
Yeah well they ARE white boards now. No school has blackboards & chalk anymore. They have dry-wipe markers and a whiteboard!!
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Originally Posted by Diamond Dave
I prefer this track by Skrewdriver
White power 1 - 2 - 3 - 4!
I stand watch my country, going down the drain
We are all at fault, we are all to blame
We're letting them takeover, we just let 'em come
Once we had an Empire, and now we've got a slum
(chorus)
White Power! For England
White Power! Today
White Power! For Britain
Before it gets too late
Well we've seen a lot of riots, we just sit and scoff
We've seen a lot of muggings, and the judges let 'em off
(chorus)
Well we've gotta do something, to try and stop the rot
And the traitors that have used us, they should all be shot
(chorus)
middle eight:
Are we gonna sit and let them come?
Have they got the White man on the run?
Multi-racial society is a mess
We ain't gonna take much more of this
What do we need?
(chorus)
Well if we don't win our battle, and all does not go well
It's apocalypse for Britain, and we'll see you all in hell
(chorus) x2
It's ok to come on here and support Labour, Conservative, Liberal etc but people don't like an "alternative" view. There's nothing wrong with being proud of being English and white although others would have you believe differently.
White power 1 - 2 - 3 - 4!
I stand watch my country, going down the drain
We are all at fault, we are all to blame
We're letting them takeover, we just let 'em come
Once we had an Empire, and now we've got a slum
(chorus)
White Power! For England
White Power! Today
White Power! For Britain
Before it gets too late
Well we've seen a lot of riots, we just sit and scoff
We've seen a lot of muggings, and the judges let 'em off
(chorus)
Well we've gotta do something, to try and stop the rot
And the traitors that have used us, they should all be shot
(chorus)
middle eight:
Are we gonna sit and let them come?
Have they got the White man on the run?
Multi-racial society is a mess
We ain't gonna take much more of this
What do we need?
(chorus)
Well if we don't win our battle, and all does not go well
It's apocalypse for Britain, and we'll see you all in hell
(chorus) x2
It's ok to come on here and support Labour, Conservative, Liberal etc but people don't like an "alternative" view. There's nothing wrong with being proud of being English and white although others would have you believe differently.
If do feel this country is going to the dogs but the whole white power thing is only gona make things worse. No one deserves to be treated as inferior and second class because of their age, sex or race until they have had a chance to prove them self’s.
There are plenty white scum out there stealing your Scooby, robbing your granny and scrounging your tax £.
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Oh, my old man's a dustman
He wears a dustman's hat
He wears cor blimey trousers
And he lives in a council flat
He looks a proper narner
In his great big hob nailed boots
He's got such a job to pull em up
That he calls them daisy roots
He wears a dustman's hat
He wears cor blimey trousers
And he lives in a council flat
He looks a proper narner
In his great big hob nailed boots
He's got such a job to pull em up
That he calls them daisy roots
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Originally Posted by Tim-Grove
If do feel this country is going to the dogs but the whole white power thing is only gona make things worse. No one deserves to be treated as inferior and second class because of their age, sex or race until they have had a chance to prove them self’s.
There are plenty white scum out there stealing your Scooby, robbing your granny and scrounging your tax £.
There are plenty white scum out there stealing your Scooby, robbing your granny and scrounging your tax £.
True about white scum, they need to be brought into line too and without certain elements draining our resources we'd be able to fund schemes to get them off the streets and into jobs.
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Strange how when somebody says they feel their identity as an Englishman is being lost people then Tar it with White Power or Racist accusations but if you are an immigrant and claim you are losing your cultural identity then that is taken seriously?
If you go into our secondary schools there are pictures of Martin Luther King? Not of Francis drake or Nelson or Douglas Bader on the walls they don’t teach history to show the UK in a positive light but instead teach it that we oppressed the world, there is very little teaching of how we developed into the nation we are today and how many 16 year olds actually know the dates that WWII started and finished but this is the biggest event that has shaped recent history and is in living memory.
As to is this a problem when you cant even put on a Government form that you are English then yes I think it is!
If you go into our secondary schools there are pictures of Martin Luther King? Not of Francis drake or Nelson or Douglas Bader on the walls they don’t teach history to show the UK in a positive light but instead teach it that we oppressed the world, there is very little teaching of how we developed into the nation we are today and how many 16 year olds actually know the dates that WWII started and finished but this is the biggest event that has shaped recent history and is in living memory.
As to is this a problem when you cant even put on a Government form that you are English then yes I think it is!
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Originally Posted by Adrian F
If you go into our secondary schools there are pictures of Martin Luther King? Not of Francis drake or Nelson or Douglas Bader on the walls they don’t teach history to show the UK in a positive light but instead teach it that we oppressed the world, there is very little teaching of how we developed into the nation we are today and how many 16 year olds actually know the dates that WWII started and finished but this is the biggest event that has shaped recent history and is in living memory.
We won the war, we can't celebrate the fact in case it upsets the Germans, instead we mourn our dead and desecrate their memories by sweeping it under the carpet.
White power will never be taken seriously because of the activities they involve themselves in and the attachment to C18, NF etc but if somebody "respectable" stood up and offered achieveable aims more people than those who would admit it on here would vote for them.
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The thing you're all forgetting though, is that the vast majority of these decisions are made by guilt-ridden, left-wing, middle-class, white people (mainly women), usually with no consultation whatsoever from the supposedly offended parties
Those parties in turn are generally as offended by these nonsensical actions as we are, and all it does is stir up tension where previously there was none
Those parties in turn are generally as offended by these nonsensical actions as we are, and all it does is stir up tension where previously there was none
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Originally Posted by Diamond Dave
it's OUR country and OUR history and we should be able to acknowledge it freely.
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Originally Posted by Diamond Dave
They've had 50 years to prove themselves Tim
True about white scum, they need to be brought into line too and without certain elements draining our resources we'd be able to fund schemes to get them off the streets and into jobs.
True about white scum, they need to be brought into line too and without certain elements draining our resources we'd be able to fund schemes to get them off the streets and into jobs.
Some interesting comments. Would you mind if I ask how you and your family ' have proved themselves over the last 50 years' .
Do you honestly think that there would be no 'white scum' if there were no immigrants due to being rehabed?? Were there no white thieves/prostitutes/vagabonds before this country had immigrants??
Another of your posts mentions the war. Implying it was won by England on its own. Do you feel that is historically correct?
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
Hi Dave,
Some interesting comments. Would you mind if I ask how you and your family ' have proved themselves over the last 50 years' .
Do you honestly think that there would be no 'white scum' if there were no immigrants due to being rehabed?? Were there no white thieves/prostitutes/vagabonds before this country had immigrants??
Another of your posts mentions the war. Implying it was won by England on its own. Do you feel that is historically correct?
Cheers
Some interesting comments. Would you mind if I ask how you and your family ' have proved themselves over the last 50 years' .
Do you honestly think that there would be no 'white scum' if there were no immigrants due to being rehabed?? Were there no white thieves/prostitutes/vagabonds before this country had immigrants??
Another of your posts mentions the war. Implying it was won by England on its own. Do you feel that is historically correct?
Cheers
My immediate family and I have created jobs, well paid jobs, for in excess of 350 people. A small figure when stood on it's own but a significant contribution when you consider that those people can then go on and spend their wages and increase the wealth of other people. We are all law abiding, tax paying citizens who respect our country and the rules set by it. It doesn't mean we always agree with the laws but they are set for us by a Government voted in by the people at the time. We are proud of our country on the whole and where it stands in the International community.
I know where you want to lead this so I will head you off now, we haven't migrated to another country, had children and brought them up to wish for "independence", non-white schools, Muslim councils etc. Why should we teach Punjabi or Urdu in some of our schools? Why should signs in hospitals be in 15 different languages? If you live here at least try and learn the lingo! The same can be said of ex-pat Brits living in say Spain, learn to integrate and respect the country you are in.
I don't think I implied anything about the war other than we should be proud of our victory. I certainly didn't say or imply we won it single handedly.
Any Hollywood war movie would tell us both it was the Americans who won it
I agree with diamond about our children not being taught other languages in our schools, english is OUR language and has always been so. We shouldn't have to change our schooling system because 'newcomers' can't understand our national tongue.
And as for changing the name of nursery rhymes, CHRISTMAS decorations and celebrations or whatever offends people of other colours next week is simply stupid. FFS take it as it is, a bloody board that happens to be black
And as for changing the name of nursery rhymes, CHRISTMAS decorations and celebrations or whatever offends people of other colours next week is simply stupid. FFS take it as it is, a bloody board that happens to be black
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Originally Posted by Diamond Dave
No I wouldn't mind you asking at all, that's what discussions are about.
My immediate family and I have created jobs, well paid jobs, for in excess of 350 people. A small figure when stood on it's own but a significant contribution when you consider that those people can then go on and spend their wages and increase the wealth of other people. We are all law abiding, tax paying citizens who respect our country and the rules set by it. It doesn't mean we always agree with the laws but they are set for us by a Government voted in by the people at the time. We are proud of our country on the whole and where it stands in the International community.
I know where you want to lead this so I will head you off now, we haven't migrated to another country, had children and brought them up to wish for "independence", non-white schools, Muslim councils etc. Why should we teach Punjabi or Urdu in some of our schools? Why should signs in hospitals be in 15 different languages? If you live here at least try and learn the lingo! The same can be said of ex-pat Brits living in say Spain, learn to integrate and respect the country you are in.
I don't think I implied anything about the war other than we should be proud of our victory. I certainly didn't say or imply we won it single handedly.
Any Hollywood war movie would tell us both it was the Americans who won it
My immediate family and I have created jobs, well paid jobs, for in excess of 350 people. A small figure when stood on it's own but a significant contribution when you consider that those people can then go on and spend their wages and increase the wealth of other people. We are all law abiding, tax paying citizens who respect our country and the rules set by it. It doesn't mean we always agree with the laws but they are set for us by a Government voted in by the people at the time. We are proud of our country on the whole and where it stands in the International community.
I know where you want to lead this so I will head you off now, we haven't migrated to another country, had children and brought them up to wish for "independence", non-white schools, Muslim councils etc. Why should we teach Punjabi or Urdu in some of our schools? Why should signs in hospitals be in 15 different languages? If you live here at least try and learn the lingo! The same can be said of ex-pat Brits living in say Spain, learn to integrate and respect the country you are in.
I don't think I implied anything about the war other than we should be proud of our victory. I certainly didn't say or imply we won it single handedly.
Any Hollywood war movie would tell us both it was the Americans who won it
David,
Would you agree that there are businesses in this country(and I'm not talking corner shops) run by immigrants that also employ 100s of 1000s. I'm talking everything from telecoms to publishing to pharmaceuticals and therefore contribute millions if not billions in tax and consequant revenue.
I know where you are leading so I will head you off. You were not originally talking about immigrants not integrating, your comment was that 'they have had 50 years to prove themselves' implying they have not. I would say there are plenty who have. Some haven't, but then nor have plenty of white people and they have been here for 100s of years!!
We can go out for a beer some time and I'll introduce you to Asian businessmen who employ 1000s of white people. Believe me they do not need signs written in Punjabi or Urdu!
I am a STRONG believer in immigrants integrating.
You never answered the question regarding your comment that 'without certain elements resources could be directed( at white scum) to get them jobs'
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England does not exist FACT, You cannot be English, we cannot have a Parliament, It all goes down to E.U. directive. We are divided into regions. This is where identety cards come from, new Passports, New Laws everything Teflon Tony is only a Puppet.
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
David,
Would you agree that there are businesses in this country(and I'm not talking corner shops) run by immigrants that also employ 100s of 1000s. I'm talking everything from telecoms to publishing to pharmaceuticals and therefore contribute millions if not billions in tax and consequant revenue.
Would you agree that there are businesses in this country(and I'm not talking corner shops) run by immigrants that also employ 100s of 1000s. I'm talking everything from telecoms to publishing to pharmaceuticals and therefore contribute millions if not billions in tax and consequant revenue.
Originally Posted by Deep Singh
I know where you are leading so I will head you off. You were not originally talking about immigrants not integrating, your comment was that 'they have had 50 years to prove themselves' implying they have not. I would say there are plenty who have. Some haven't, but then nor have plenty of white people and they have been here for 100s of years!!
Originally Posted by Deep Singh
We can go out for a beer some time and I'll introduce you to Asian businessmen who employ 1000s of white people. Believe me they do not need signs written in Punjabi or Urdu!
I'm joking Deep.
Originally Posted by Deep Singh
I am a STRONG believer in immigrants integrating.
Originally Posted by Deep Singh
You never answered the question regarding your comment that 'without certain elements resources could be directed( at white scum) to get them jobs'
Do you honestly think that there would be no 'white scum' if there were no immigrants due to being rehabed?? Were there no white thieves/prostitutes/vagabonds before this country had immigrants??
Deep
Do you honestly think that there would be no 'white scum' if there were no immigrants due to being rehabed?? Were there no white thieves/prostitutes/vagabonds before this country had immigrants??
Deep
Scum will be scum no matter what colour, if they don't change they should be dealt with accordingly.
Why did you put prostitutes in there or vagabonds for that matter? Prostitution should be legalised and cleaned up. There should be plenty of free accomodation provided by the state to shelter the homeless. If we stopped taking in other countries litter we could tidy up our own.
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Originally Posted by Diamond Dave
Of course I would agree with it, a person would have to be blind, stupid or both to dispute that. Some will have been installed as the "token minority" some will be there on merit. Fair play, the country needs people who are prepared to work and put into the pot. Be that white, black, brown or pink with yellow spots. This isn't about "colour" no matter how it appears, it's about national pride and being able to celebrate our Nation's history without fearing causing offence to somebody who has been in the country 30 years and doesn't understand what our heritage means to us.
I'm talking about self made millionaires, how could they be installed as a token?? They OWN the company
That was probably too much of a generalisation, the original immigrants who came over DID work hard at integration into our society and ways. It's the subsequent generations who feel hard done by and cheated, they want the perks of living here but want their own rules and identity. They expect "us" to accomodate that. Why should we?
I MAY agree to some extent on this.As long as you don't go all Romper Stomper!!
Will the Drugs Squad be watching us?
I'm joking Deep.
No problem, the Drugs Squad aren't racist and will take a bribe from anyone so they won't disturb us ( LOL)
We have common ground
No I don't think that at all.
But David thats exactly what you said in the previous post??
But instead of funding "alternative language" schools we could give ALL kids a better education for a start. Integration taught in school at an early age would go a long long way.
David, how many alternate language schools are there? The cost would be a drop in the ocean I would imagine compared to the Social services budget as a whole?
Scum will be scum no matter what colour, if they don't change they should be dealt with accordingly.
Why did you put prostitutes in there or vagabonds for that matter? Prostitution should be legalised and cleaned up. There should be plenty of free accomodation provided by the state to shelter the homeless. If we stopped taking in other countries litter we could tidy up our own.
I'm talking about self made millionaires, how could they be installed as a token?? They OWN the company
That was probably too much of a generalisation, the original immigrants who came over DID work hard at integration into our society and ways. It's the subsequent generations who feel hard done by and cheated, they want the perks of living here but want their own rules and identity. They expect "us" to accomodate that. Why should we?
I MAY agree to some extent on this.As long as you don't go all Romper Stomper!!
Will the Drugs Squad be watching us?
I'm joking Deep.
No problem, the Drugs Squad aren't racist and will take a bribe from anyone so they won't disturb us ( LOL)
We have common ground
No I don't think that at all.
But David thats exactly what you said in the previous post??
But instead of funding "alternative language" schools we could give ALL kids a better education for a start. Integration taught in school at an early age would go a long long way.
David, how many alternate language schools are there? The cost would be a drop in the ocean I would imagine compared to the Social services budget as a whole?
Scum will be scum no matter what colour, if they don't change they should be dealt with accordingly.
Why did you put prostitutes in there or vagabonds for that matter? Prostitution should be legalised and cleaned up. There should be plenty of free accomodation provided by the state to shelter the homeless. If we stopped taking in other countries litter we could tidy up our own.
Pros/vagabonds was probably a poor choice of words. What I meant was were there no undesirables when 'certain elements' were not around?
David my take on it is this. (Please bear in mind that I'm quite right wing and would like to see SERIOUS restrictions on immigration.).....
There are plenty of hard working honest law abiding immigrants who have integrated, salute the flag, toast the queen and have a grandparent who faught in the war( me included) There are some who don't, but I think there is less of them. Exactly the same goes for white people
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Write a poem about your English bred feelings and get slated...
If any other nationality had written it we'd either be very quiet because we'd be scared of offending him/her or we'd be supporting their right to give their country a mention and maybe a grant to get their minority talent heard at some level.. what about a special award ceremony or maybe forcing some of the majority to accept that stance by taking away their right to speak up against it..
That'll help...
If any other nationality had written it we'd either be very quiet because we'd be scared of offending him/her or we'd be supporting their right to give their country a mention and maybe a grant to get their minority talent heard at some level.. what about a special award ceremony or maybe forcing some of the majority to accept that stance by taking away their right to speak up against it..
That'll help...
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