Zak


Ebony


Inquisitive Ebony


Solo at around 9 weeks


...and more recently (about 8 months)


Funnily enough, we've never been burgled

 

Cheers Matey.

 

sticky he is a darling!
i grew up with a dobey, he was soft as ****, but really stubborn.
used to reverse up to ya in the living room and perch his **** on the edge of the sofa as if to say 'stroke that now bitch!'
but he was a darlin and i think thats some of the reason i went for mine now.

 

Stunning Dobermans

Here's out backup burgler alarm (s) again..LOL..



One of our bitch in a typically curious pose



And one of them being a bit more energetic



And the boy a bit less so

 

Sticky, they are truely beautiful dogs and look gorgeous. The 2 rotties afterwards are pretty gorgeous too.

 

I love Siberian Huskies

They are so pretty

Kaz

 

Here's Stella the Staff (yes I'm a chav turd )...........

7 weeks old
biting off more than she can chew
guarding my expensive wine/champagne collection
out for the count

Chris

 

You got some top rotties there mate.

JIM

 

I got her a new bed from e-bay today and she loves it to bits as you can see.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2/DSC00361.jpg

The old boy has a new bed on the way too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...2/DSC00362.jpg

 

Cheers mate


LOL

he'll be pissed at you - that old bed looks comfortable

 

Is it me but why do all the rotties and Dobermans not have tails? i dont understand the reason for cutting off this part of the dog? they are lovely dogs and there are some great pictures of them on here but none with tails!

 

The tails loop back over on them-selves just like boxers, it looks daft.

 

But i thought they were banning chopping of tails for cosmetic reasons? seems cruel!

 

http://www.cdb.org/

 

I can only speak about docked Weimaraners, but the tails are long and fine, and can very easilly be damaged when they are running around mad as lorries, as is their want in life My friend is a breeder and all her pups are docked and she's never had anyone complain. Docking occurs when the pups are very young (a couple of weeks old I think, if that) and from what my friend has said they don't seem to be in any pain during the procedure.

 

The BVA and Royal College banned docking a few years ago on the grounds of 'unnecessary mutiliation'. Therefore no vet will perform the procedure unless there are good medical grounds.

If anyone else does it they are carrying out a surgical procedure without proper training and could therefore be prosecuted for cruelty to animals.

Puppies do very much feel the pain. Just because they too young to express it doesn't mean they don't feel it.

My wife is a vet btw.

Steve.

 

I can tell

 

Dr. Bruce Cattanach decided to do something re. the whole tail docking thing
The link below is well worth a read. 1 - 6

http://www.steynmere.com/ARTICLES1.html

 

Very interesting read PG, I'm sure the Kennel Club will welcome his efforts with open arms... not!

 

 

The Kennel Club are the biggest set of non caring crooks out there !!! Its all about the pound note with them I am affraid. KCreg means nothing now.

 

They're not exactly 'chopped' off.

 

Not at all - many rotties have (or would have) straight tails.

Our dogs were docked at days old, not weeks, and by (I understand) a non surgical procedure that is quite common amongst docked tail breeders.

I've seen the pups at this time and have never witnessed any distress or suffering among them.

Rotties with tails are very attractive dogs, but on balance I prefer mine without. For actively working dogs its a must - the damage that can be caused by the tail simply whipping against hard objects is horrendous.

The argument is less compelling for pets though, there is no doubt about it.

I am strongly against animal suffering, and I've no doubt the pips feel something, but it should be said that vets are equally divided in their views about this. Animals don't suffer pain in silence - they have a basic instinct to cry out and show distress. from my experience, when the procedures are carried out correctly I have seen no signs of distress.

If I had a choice, would I have my rotties with tails? On balance, no. Given that they have been without them from a few days old, its not like they miss them. I've been brought up around dogs my whole life and have seen a number of tail injuries - significantly more painful and distressing than removal. On balance, many have no trouble at all, it has to be said.

Having no tail leads to a much cleaner rear end (and I don't mean asthetically). Rotties tails are quite bushy - and anyone with a bushy tailed dog will tell you that its not pleasant from time to time.

And you never get those "coffee table" moments, although I will happily accept this is no grounds for docking

As for dew claws, how anyone can say removal is wrong is beyond me. They are completely surplus to requirements in domestic dogs, have no use, and are an absolute liability to the dog. It could almost be deemed irresponsible not to remove them due to the damage that they can sustain.

No one is disputing that poor procedures carried out by unqualified individuals should be (and probably are in any event) banned, but there are far more barbaric procedures carried out on farmed animals than properly docking tails at 2 days old. And no one seems up in arms about that.

 

Docking should be done in the first week of life when the nervous system is not developed. I did some reading on this before I got ours docked - under anaesthetic, poor bugger, as the breeder didn't do it at birth. It's not something I'd like to do again.

I'm wary of the CDB site as it's likely to be biased, but the letter from Fritsch is quite powerful. http://www.cdb.org/fritsch.htm I'm sure I've seen another version as well, where it mentioned that the pups docked at 3 days showed no distress whereas the pups docked at ?10 days were clearly distressed.

I've seen how hunting dogs damage their tails and refuse to let them mend (constant licking, chewing, nibbling, re-damaging when wagging), and if you are going to work the dog then I think it's more cruel not to dock - unfortunately you can rarely predict this before birth.

My vet agrees with me and is furious with the breeder for not docking at birth. So just because one vet thinks it's wrong, doesn't mean they all do.

It's an emotive issue and will remain one. Docking is now illegal in a number of countries in Europe now, and they'll refuse to allow docked dogs to enter shows. If you want to ponce about in a show, fair enough. But if you're going to work the dog, I think docking is fair.

Anyway, don't let's get on to this. Where's more cute doggy pics?

 

Surely not

 

Diablo knows exactly what he is talking about he is 100% correct in what he says.

I have only ever seen 1 rottie with a tail and it did not look right,the rottie with a tail is bushy and it does not suit the dog.

You are all right in saying that a tail can cause serious problems one way or the other, so i am so glad hannah had her tail docked.

JIM

 

Back on track couple more of Jess



With the old tusty [that lasted half a day, cheap £1 crap.]



And her **** pose

 

mr beefy

 

By Christ !! First and last time you'll hear that said !

 

Some piccies of our Boxer Scooby.

http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/1718539