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Old 13 October 2005, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Stryder
I think my Chav comment was as original as your comment I highlighted earlier. I've seen you other thread how you don't appreciate folk moaning on about Scoobies, or they have beaten Scoobies. And in actual fact you have a very nice car. But I think you will find that the thread intimated what not to race, based on the fact that you drive a WRX, which is also a very quick car. But by no means the quickest! There is no need for yawns or bored comments.
Stryder, valid points, well made - your first reaction just seemed a bit over the top, sorry if I p***ed you off - Truce

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Old 13 October 2005, 03:51 PM
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You are right, I shouldn't have reacted that way. So apologies, and I'll get of my high horse.
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Originally Posted by DonnieDarko
i'm not surprised he wasn't impressed when he caught you urinating on his car at chucking out time LOL

a 350 spider is a non-existant car that is neither a 355 nor a 360.

seriously like a 20 year old in a £100,000 phantom ferrari cares if you overtake him. his car is worth 4-5 times what yours is (and mine)
I meant 360 Spider. It was on a RWYB on a runway. He just couldn't get the power down and by the time he did, I was long gone!!!! The worst thing was, the young lad was wearing a Burberry baseball cap!!!!
Old 13 October 2005, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Theres plenty of R5s about just get kept in garages and used over the weekend, the interesting thing is though LOTS of them are all modified with mucho engine power and will easily waste a std Impreza.... YES in the twisties aswell
Yeah right! The engine would blow up after a mile!!!!!
They look ****, most are owned by Chavs calles 'Wayne' who lie big time about the horsepower and they are crap in the corners!!!!
Old 13 October 2005, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by KG386
A standard WRX300 does 0-60 in 4.8 secs, yours for £19,000 at you local Subaru dealer (with a little discount).

Properly launched, 99% of cars can't touch it WITHIN THE LEGAL LIMIT.

That is good enough for me and the dreamers can keep on dreaming...
With 300bhp it should be that quick How many of those cars listed have 300bhp or 4x4?

Unfortunately my Gtir with 246bhp is in the other 1% It's been timed at 4.8s in the damp on a 13.1 1/4 run (poor grip) with the grip like I seem to get on the road, it's somewhat faster

The moral of this story is avoid the older cars that don't have all the weight adding safety devices that slow you down
Old 13 October 2005, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
I still own a R5 JUST.... lol been off the road the last 2 years but got it running again but thinking of selling up Also got an RX7 now so who are you then? yes me and a mate showed at donny, he had the tunny grey 5 that was unfinished and I had the erm, cant remember what colour it was at the time red or it was the pink/gold flip

http://www.rtoc.org/library/file.asp?id=24394
You had the flip paintjob at the time.

I organised the club stand and Steven Johns 5 & the twin engine 500bhp ex europarts were parked on either side of mine & i never got a look in all day!
I had the tungsten grey 5 with the Skeete stuff on.Showed on the Saturday & went home on Sunday cos i was knackered,gave my place to a mate 4 the Sunday.Small world. No longer own a 5GTT,put it on the RTOC & it sold the next day.
Old 13 October 2005, 07:07 PM
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ohh well, life moves on eh pleased to see you around still

CyprusScooby, OK mate if you say so. Blow up after a mile just as reliable as the Impreza is and much easier and cheaper to fix. Take it youve never owned/driven/been in a 200bhp reno5 then.
Old 13 October 2005, 07:20 PM
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Sure have! My cousin had one plus I used to work in the motor trade! I don't think I've ever seen an R5 that hasn't had a blown up engine! Always cause the idiots put them up to stupid boost!
Old 13 October 2005, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CyprusScooby
I meant 360 Spider. It was on a RWYB on a runway. He just couldn't get the power down and by the time he did, I was long gone!!!! The worst thing was, the young lad was wearing a Burberry baseball cap!!!!
Standard 360 Spec.

0 - 60 mph [secs] 4.5 0 - 100 mph [secs]
10.7 1/4 mile [secs at mph]
12.9 at 110.7
Top Speed [mph]
183

I only post the above to highlight how ludicrous it is to compare a 360 to a classic Sti and citing your "victory" over the Ferrari as proof that it is quicker. Are you suggesting that you are achieving late 12sec qtr mile times or are you saying that the driver fcuked it up? If it's the former then i'll happily submit, if however the latter was the reason for the success then you may as well have been racing a VW Camper for all the relevance the vehicle had on the result.

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Old 13 October 2005, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CyprusScooby
Sure have! My cousin had one plus I used to work in the motor trade! I don't think I've ever seen an R5 that hasn't had a blown up engine! Always cause the idiots put them up to stupid boost!
hi 8, Just want to say your spot on about r5,s.

I went too santa pod in may with some pals

they asked some mates along. 2 had r5,s.

by the time i put my foot down i was gone and they

started trying 2 catch me. Next thing 1 breaks down

black smoke on the m1 20 miles from when we left

The funny thing is just before we left he was putting down scooby,s and saying his car has never let him down. p.s not seen him at santa pod again.
Old 13 October 2005, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Standard 360 Spec.

0 - 60 mph [secs] 4.5 0 - 100 mph [secs]
10.7 1/4 mile [secs at mph]
12.9 at 110.7
Top Speed [mph]
183

I only post the above to highlight how ludicrous it is to compare a 360 to a classic Sti and citing your "victory" over the Ferrari as proof that it is quicker. Are you suggesting that you are achieving late 12sec qtr mile times or are you saying that the driver fcuked it up? If it's the former then i'll happily submit, if however the latter was the reason for the success then you may as well have been racing a VW Camper for all the relevance the vehicle had on the result.

J
Well considering a Type-R STi does 0-60mph in 4 secs flat........
Old 13 October 2005, 08:47 PM
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Oh dear. I was hoping for a bit of a debate or at least a well reasoned, if ultimately futile arguement but no; you've called me stupid, referred to a 0-60 time and stood by your assertion that your STI is a quicker car then a Ferrari 360 "'cos you beat a teenager wearing a burbery cap once in race were he guffed up the start".
Old 13 October 2005, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Oh dear. I was hoping for a bit of a debate or at least a well reasoned, if ultimately futile arguement but no; you've called me stupid, referred to a 0-60 time and stood by your assertion that your STI is a quicker car then a Ferrari 360 "'cos you beat a teenager wearing a burbery cap once in race were he guffed up the start".
I ain't calling you stupid mate. Was only messing.
From he top off my head, I believe that a Ferrari 360 does not not have a great lot more bhp than an STi and it weighs nearly 2 tonnes!
I read on the US Ferrari owners website a while ago (link was from this site) about how the owners were getting pissed off that they kept getting beat by Scoobys, and not just in the corners.
Don't get me wrong, I would still have a Ferrari anyday! (would have a Scoob for my everyday car though!!!!)
Old 13 October 2005, 09:10 PM
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LMAO at this thread, so a Ferrari 360 with 425 bhp isnt pushing much bhp than an STi Cant beat SN for comedy value...

ohh and btw, just so you know, my reno 5 running 189bhp and 197lbs of torque @ 19psi has NEVER blown an engine or an head gasket.... Ive owned a scoob before and sold it on after 10months due to boredem and why pay silly insurance premiums on a car pushing smallish bhp after the 4x4 has sapped it all.... You live in dream world mate, I can list numerous GT Turbos that have gone up the quarter mile in the 13seconds consistently without any problems (unless your name is Sparkie for those who know what Im on about ) Seriously, you said it yourself, those that blow up are because stupid kids run stupid boost without knowing anything about cars... JUST LIKE IMPREZAS
Old 13 October 2005, 09:14 PM
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The top of your head needs a rebuild

Try 400-420 BHP and weight from that of a GC8 STI to a GDB WRX.

I make that about 50-60% higher power at wheels than a GC8 STI.
Old 13 October 2005, 10:35 PM
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Didn't think it was that much difference!
He was giving it BIG sticks as well!
Old 13 October 2005, 11:07 PM
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At the end of the day no matter what car you drive someone on the road will have something quicker so who gives a **** about what can beat what.
Old 13 October 2005, 11:11 PM
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The 360 isnt all that to 60??? They come into their own over 100 mph, which I know because ive had a tussle with one or 2

I bought my STi4 off a chap who then bought a 360 and we had a little play. Destroyed over about 80 but before that I doubt there would be much in it. But who cares - its a Ferrari! Awesone beasts...

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Originally Posted by davegtt
LMAO at this thread, so a Ferrari 360 with 425 bhp isnt pushing much bhp than an STi Cant beat SN for comedy value...

ohh and btw, just so you know, my reno 5 running 189bhp and 197lbs of torque @ 19psi has NEVER blown an engine or an head gasket.... Ive owned a scoob before and sold it on after 10months due to boredem and why pay silly insurance premiums on a car pushing smallish bhp after the 4x4 has sapped it all.... You live in dream world mate, I can list numerous GT Turbos that have gone up the quarter mile in the 13seconds consistently without any problems (unless your name is Sparkie for those who know what Im on about ) Seriously, you said it yourself, those that blow up are because stupid kids run stupid boost without knowing anything about cars... JUST LIKE IMPREZAS

Sparkie!!! now there is a blast from the past...........
You fighting a losing battle though Dave,GTT's don't get any respect from the purists on here,for god's sake you on a Subaru site!!Those who own blue scoobies with gold rims.......
I owned my GTT for 7 years and the only engine trouble i had was 1 head gasket & i had a proven 200+bhp.
But 7 clutch cables,normally went on a Saturday night when i was out with a bird.Typical,pull up at the lights and the clutch pedal stays on the floor!!! BORROCKS!!!Made by the French & bodywork forged in bacofoil.The original pocket rocket.Reliable if you looked after it.Bad press because too many fools bought boost valves!!
"my car runs at 40psi" BANG!!!
"my cars broken!"
Old 14 October 2005, 09:13 AM
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lol.. I know that but these guys need educating lol

lol ahh hthe clutch cables, funnily enough never had 1 of them go either so true though, up the boost is a quick power fix til it goes pop

and for those talking about the 360, correct its not brilliant 0-60 but come on, theres only so much quicker you can get there, what do you expect it too do? look at its 0-100 time and compare that, the scoob has good grip on the line and helps put some power down, IMO thats the key it has getting to 60 but after 60 the impreza shows what power it has higher up the scale.

Dont get me wrong the impreza is a good car, just its not the legend that its thought of anymore... I still wouldnt spend £20k on 1 though unless it was a 22b.... I could find many cars worth £20k instead of the impreza.
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Not the legend it was? Both it and the EVO have advanced significantly I think.

When it first came out it was a raw car, with 240 bhp. Look where it is now!

For the performance, 20k would be wasted on anything but a scoob or an EVO imo. The total package is hard to beat.

Or you could buy the remaining good 1 or 2 R5's that are nocking around and buy some spare bits for them

MB
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har har... seriously £20k will get you some awsome cars, dont have to have an 05 number plate you know....

To be honest I dont think the scoob has come much further than it was 13 years ago... its got uglier for a start What its built for you cant really do oon the road... twisties are useless to push a car like the impreza to its limits. and if you are pushing the impreza to its limits on the public road then your a full blown nutter.... I simply cant have fun in an impreza, I am finding the joys of RWD and never had so much fun in a car before. its also about the character of the car, impreza IMO doesnt have any.

Everyone has different opinions of what they want from a car, I dont want a sluggish heavy 4x4 car thats overated in many instances. I'll get my kicks other ways at half the price
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Got to agree its got uglier, and RWD is more entertaining! I found there were a few good places (down here in the sticks) that I could push / drif the car, but not many.

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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Standard 360 Spec.

0 - 60 mph [secs] 4.5 0 - 100 mph [secs]
10.7 1/4 mile [secs at mph]
12.9 at 110.7
Top Speed [mph]
183

I only post the above to highlight how ludicrous it is to compare a 360 to a classic Sti and citing your "victory" over the Ferrari as proof that it is quicker. Are you suggesting that you are achieving late 12sec qtr mile times or are you saying that the driver fcuked it up? If it's the former then i'll happily submit, if however the latter was the reason for the success then you may as well have been racing a VW Camper for all the relevance the vehicle had on the result.

J
I dont know what a std STi does on the strip but a decat+filter would see it into the 12s.

Driver ability can account for a second or so (slower).

The only Ferrari's I have seen on the strip were running mid 13s (F355) and low 13s (modified F360).

Bob
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Probably quicker with the standard filter Bob

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Originally Posted by Dark Blue Mark
Probably quicker with the standard filter Bob

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Believe it or not - a Mondeo of some desciption!! I was driving up to Oban yesterday and one of these was up my ***. Big straight, I thought '**** you.' Speedo reading was at 140 and the Mondeo was becoming smaller in my mirror but it was still pretty fast. Bet the rep was impressed. My98UK turbo with full de-cat (and new engine from API.) Currently for sale 07968 035 756 £5,500.00 ono
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lol.. what a way to advertise your car, Mondeo was pretty close to keeping up with me, want to buy my impreza? LOL
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Originally Posted by davegtt
har har... seriously £20k will get you some awsome cars, dont have to have an 05 number plate you know....

To be honest I dont think the scoob has come much further than it was 13 years ago... its got uglier for a start What its built for you cant really do oon the road... twisties are useless to push a car like the impreza to its limits. and if you are pushing the impreza to its limits on the public road then your a full blown nutter.... I simply cant have fun in an impreza, I am finding the joys of RWD and never had so much fun in a car before. its also about the character of the car, impreza IMO doesnt have any.

Everyone has different opinions of what they want from a car, I dont want a sluggish heavy 4x4 car thats overated in many instances. I'll get my kicks other ways at half the price
Would be more than interested which cars are you referring too ?
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Originally Posted by Stryder
As usual, there is always one knobber with his trusty EVO mag beside him quoting figures from the back pages. If launched correctly my ****. We are talking about everyday driving instances not pub talk You have to consider certain situations such as: driver, weather, road condition, and frame of mind. Granted Scoobies are quick. Nobody is saying other wise. But if you care to read the whole thread, there are Skylines, Ferraris and Lambo's also mentioned in this thread. I see you haven't mentioned them on your little list. I bet you are one of the Chav's that sit at traffic lights "launching correctly" as you put it from traffic lights racing at every opportuity beating OAP's in there Rover 200's to make a point that you are driving a far superior car. Get a life you prat!!! I'd like to see you get away from a 350z, 330, S4, BM 130 and half the other cars from midrange. And if you are bored, then p1ss off!!!!!!
This has entertained me over Lunch - Launch times indeed? Realworld driving means pulling away as quickly as possible with mechanical sympathy. If any of you guys had these 0-60 mag testers in your own cars, you would be pleading with them to stop after the first test. These guys thrash these cars to death getting these figures, and with a scoob being 4 wheel drive, clutch and transmission will end up losing out. I love my 94 scoob, but accept that there are quicker cars out there, either because of the brainless drivers disregard for safety, better driving ability, or quicker car full stop. Last year, whilst aproaching a r/bout mid dual carriageway in the dark, I saw headlights approaching r/bout from opp direction. I entered the large r/bout, same time as the other vehicle, and was amazed at the speed he continued at. He ended up narrowly missing my back end on the exit of the r/bout - I had seen what he was doing and was accelerating up to 70 mph to avoid him. As he came past me on the outside, his wing mirror passed undeneath mine, and I continued to accelerate up to three figures, but he dissapeared from view within 300 mtrs - I was truly amazed at the performance - he p**sed all over me - it turned out to be a brand spanker porche turbo 954? which then proceeded to hit and run someone at the next r/bout - police found the stick on no plate which had come off at the scene. Here's an e.g of a quick car being driven stupidly - impressive eh? Another e.g is a guy at work that regularly drives at 3 fig. speeds in a clio 182 cup. This car is amazing - performance, handling and fuel consumption I would kill for. He would kill me in my 94 wrx, due to a. Better driving, b. reclessness, and c. fuel consumption, but I know which car I prefer. Thought provoking for all you with OPEN minds hopefuly. Another thing is the race track 0-60 trials all the privates do - good fun if that's what you're into. How many of these enthusiasts break their cars getting to the final - often won by a slower car that hasn't broken down getting there. Lots of good cars and enthusiasts out there, lets all enjoy.
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