What cars Not To Race?
12 October 2005, 11:30 AM
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In the last few years theres been a bit of a power race with hot hatches - loads putting out around 200bhp now, and these are generally lighter and better handling cars than impreza's.
Ok they wont touch a scoob in the wet on a twisty road, but in the dry it'd be a different story.
People forget the transmission losses for 4WD are a lot, so if you work out BHP (at the wheels) / tonne you'll find scoobs not looking as impressive as you'd think against stuff like Clio 182's.
Ok they wont touch a scoob in the wet on a twisty road, but in the dry it'd be a different story.
People forget the transmission losses for 4WD are a lot, so if you work out BHP (at the wheels) / tonne you'll find scoobs not looking as impressive as you'd think against stuff like Clio 182's.
12 October 2005, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CyprusScooby
I pissed all over a Ferrari 350 Spider the other week! The 21y.o. driver wasn't impressed!!!!
12 October 2005, 11:44 AM
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Yep, starts to beep at around 9000 but that lasts a wee while.. don't think i hit the rev limiter at all to be honest and i would hit 42 in 1st then 70 in 2nd....
Apparently the Renesis in the RX8 is good for around 12000rpms but by this point the power is dropping off so much that there wouldn't be any point anyway.....
Apparently the Renesis in the RX8 is good for around 12000rpms but by this point the power is dropping off so much that there wouldn't be any point anyway.....
Originally Posted by Napedog
9500 revs! F***IN HELL!
12 October 2005, 11:55 AM
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Was a lovely car and i do kinda miss it..... only thing tho is if you think the MPG in a scoob is bad try living with an average of about 17.....
Originally Posted by Napedog
I think I want one of them Mazda's
12 October 2005, 12:10 PM
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I think the word 'Scoob' is being used rather loosely. Within the factory range itself the performance is chalk and cheese. Some are GT3/M3 CSL/355 territory and others hot-hatch territory.
Pointless saying 'x' is faster than a 'scoob' without defining the model.
Bob
Pointless saying 'x' is faster than a 'scoob' without defining the model.
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12 October 2005, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CyprusScooby
I pissed all over a Ferrari 350 Spider the other week! The 21y.o. driver wasn't impressed!!!!
a 350 spider is a non-existant car that is neither a 355 nor a 360.
seriously like a 20 year old in a £100,000 phantom ferrari cares if you overtake him. his car is worth 4-5 times what yours is (and mine)
12 October 2005, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Stryder
Also I would stay away from 330's and any Audi that has an S or RS before some numbers.
12 October 2005, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee-B STi Type UK
I can certainley recommend a car not to tussle with, M1 motorway approach road early evening 2 weeks ago I saw xenon lights closing in quickly behind me, dropped a gear (or two!) in order to "show him" the back of my STi, alongside me pulls up a 55 plate brand spanker BMW M5, he knew the score kept level looked over then pulled away like a runaway train, my rev counter red light beeping every gear couldn't touch him 
.... proper acceleration
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.... proper accelerationLee
Shame its so ugly. but i'll still end up with one.
12 October 2005, 01:51 PM
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Is it just me or does anyone else think that 500+BHP is a lot of power for a (non-italian/supercar) standard motor car from the showroom?
Dont get me wrong i'd be proud of a power figure like that but out of the box that's quite a lot, you pays your money i suppose!
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Dont get me wrong i'd be proud of a power figure like that but out of the box that's quite a lot, you pays your money i suppose!
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12 October 2005, 02:05 PM
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Somebody commented on V6 clio's my mate has had 2, the phase 1 i could just pullled away from, the phase 2 low down i won, but at high speed his car kept pulling.
My car is a mildly modded my00 uk turbo.
He's now got an M3 E46 with SMG gearbox and it kill's my car off the mark, mid range and top end.
Just fitted a FMIC, VF34 and decat and being remapped next week hopefully i'll stand a chance against him then.
My car is a mildly modded my00 uk turbo.
He's now got an M3 E46 with SMG gearbox and it kill's my car off the mark, mid range and top end.
Just fitted a FMIC, VF34 and decat and being remapped next week hopefully i'll stand a chance against him then.
12 October 2005, 02:08 PM
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[QUOTE=Lee-B STi Type UK]Is it just me or does anyone else think that 500+BHP is a lot of power for a (non-italian/supercar) standard motor car from the showroom?
Na, You get used to it and rely on it.
An example is 4th gear in the V8 M5, u can use it from 20 all the way to 125 before needing a change or any stutturing from the engine. I'm sure the V10 M5 is gonna be even better.
Sometimes though i admit putting the power down is impossible especially when its wet, but u can never have enough power/torque.
Na, You get used to it and rely on it.
An example is 4th gear in the V8 M5, u can use it from 20 all the way to 125 before needing a change or any stutturing from the engine. I'm sure the V10 M5 is gonna be even better.
Sometimes though i admit putting the power down is impossible especially when its wet, but u can never have enough power/torque.
12 October 2005, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by turboDean
My car is a mildly modded my00 uk turbo.
He's now got an M3 E46 with SMG gearbox and it kill's my car off the mark, mid range and top end.
He's now got an M3 E46 with SMG gearbox and it kill's my car off the mark, mid range and top end.
Having a capable car is one thing and driving it is another.
I've seen STis pulling 6second and 7second runs 0-60mph.
12 October 2005, 02:32 PM
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Bob, we reckon T-uk's 340 BHP (TD05/FMIC/headers/6MT etc) classic Scooby is similar to an E46 SMG once rolling despite it having the same flywheel power, less weight and being a second quicker on the quarter. M3 has no lag, 80ms gearchanges (and fewer of them compared with a 6 speed Scooby), lower drivetrain losses (about 300 WHP) less weight difference than is apparent from the figures and no temperature fatigue.
You don't think I'd buy one if they were really slow rather than just a bit slow?
You don't think I'd buy one if they were really slow rather than just a bit slow?
12 October 2005, 02:49 PM
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I have no defence except that it was only a few months ago that an old lady commented that I looked so young she wanted to ask me how I'd got on with my highers 
12 October 2005, 02:53 PM
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Not always about how fast you go, but how you go fast.
I couldn't care less if some highly tuned Impreza flew past me at 200mph spitting flames
Might have to turn the stereo up though
On UK roads it's not easy to really go for it without the fear of points / ban. When I took my STi (ecutek, decat) out to Germany, on straight autobarhn all sorts of things were pushing me out the way at 120mph +
I remember when I was out there I got cremated by a 996 Turbo and thought to myself I just gotta have one of them. Now I got the turbo I'll probably get cremated by a RUF R Turbo. No matter what you drive you will always get rinsed, so I just enjoy what I have now
I couldn't care less if some highly tuned Impreza flew past me at 200mph spitting flames
Might have to turn the stereo up though On UK roads it's not easy to really go for it without the fear of points / ban. When I took my STi (ecutek, decat) out to Germany, on straight autobarhn all sorts of things were pushing me out the way at 120mph +
I remember when I was out there I got cremated by a 996 Turbo and thought to myself I just gotta have one of them. Now I got the turbo I'll probably get cremated by a RUF R Turbo. No matter what you drive you will always get rinsed, so I just enjoy what I have now
12 October 2005, 03:44 PM
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I have'nt been "rinsed" as you put it by anything yet.
I normally find that people driving high powered cars are a little wary
of giving it some incase they get embarresd (spelling).
It's normally the Golf,clio,Nova brigade that think they have something to
prove.
Rob
I normally find that people driving high powered cars are a little wary
of giving it some incase they get embarresd (spelling).
It's normally the Golf,clio,Nova brigade that think they have something to
prove.
Rob
I'll have changed cars atleast 3 times by then 