So every modern engine is basic as they are designed to take the power designed for it, yes ?.

 

Listen, ****-for-brains ...........

You said, "Dealing Peter, not 'selling'....."

I was merely asking where I said selling, I genuinely couldn't see it - by your response I guess I have said selling, but missed it??

Could you please point me to where I mentioned it?????

Failing that I assume you will apologise??

Pete

 

Im with you on that. Thought the cantankerous old git was fooking off never to return

 

In response to this stupid remark:

Jog on Pete

 

YES!!!!

Now that wasn't difficult, was it??

Materials change, tolerances in machining reduce, electronics become ever more powerful ......................

.............. but, it's a foooookin engine - it does the SAME as it has done for 100 years!!

Intake, Compress, BANG, Exhaust ............. thats it!!! Don't kid yourselves that the Impreza does something different .... like, what??

Snap, Crackle, Pop???

Pete

 

Oh, I see, so I didn't actually say 'Selling'??

You messed up again - didn't you??

I accept your weak attempt at an apology

Pete

 

Wow another Simon and Pete hijacked thread......

And yet another tiff

Are you two lovers????

Anyway...sentiments are that I'm with Pete on this one. The scoob ain't complicated and it's designed to take stresses and strains.

And contrary to popular belief they don't make them with choclate pistons either.

Calm down fellas it's just a car..

Roo [who after reading the replies has actually forgotten what the topic was about....amusing none the less]

 

all engines are basic if u think about it from a mechanics point of view as they all have the same principles !!!!!!

its the engineering of them theat is complex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

designing the components specifications is what is complex,

now modern engines use electronic which make them complex !!!!!


pete u still a bad rash that wont go away, its funny how you pick up on the most insignificant of things.
y do u do this, is it just wind people up!!!!!!!!!!!

or are you that stupid

is this what u do for kicks

 

er yah

what was the question again lol

 

STI Craig ..................... I suppose there are the clever (me)

And those who think the Impreza is a complex piece of Engineering (you)

Now, I know its sexy and I know it impresses your Chavvie mates down at the MacDonalds Car Park .... but, come on, there are old heads on old engineers shoulders on this BBS - and we don't scare easy!!!!

Pete

 

LMFAO

ok then so subaru dont have any research and development the first EJ20 engine is the same as the one they sell today!!!!


pete tell me what a complex engine is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
a ferrari engine? because its a f1 engine lol!!!!!

 

My 2p's worth now-The complexity(sp) of somthing varies depending on whom is looking at it-To someone with no mechanical knowledge,any car is complex(even a Robin Reliant!!!)-but speaking in mechanical terms,the Imprezza is very a simple allround package,which is a bloody good thing-less to go wrong.To put things into perspective,my old 2001 Vectra was technically more complex due to the type of engine managment/electronics ect-IT WAS A CRAP CAR THOUGH!!!!!
Now-a BMW M3 evo engine IS complex due to the double valve timing units and i defy anyone who says balancing(perfectly) all 6 inlets is an easy thing,mechanically though,the rest of the car is pretty simple though.
Even though the Vectra is technically more complex-i STILL wouldnt want my local Vauxhall dealers touching it!!!!!

Gary.

 

I'm a vauxhall mechanic and I'm 6"5", 17 stone, and Black! I'm coming over to give your car the once over then I'll let you tell me I'm a crap mechanic to my face. You discriminative little man!

 

ha ha

Love the black bit!

 

Typical of the answer i would expect-you got the complete wrong end of the stick-just like my local Vauxhall dealers that cant get anything right!!!!!ITS AIMED AT MY LOCAL DEALERSHIP.Theres no hope is there eh.NOTHING discriminitave in ANY of my posts you fat man.

I wont give my statistics out as this isnt a dating forum and im a happily married straight guy.

For what its worth though,i do know some very good Vauxhall mechanics-one of which has actually moved onto Subarus-Two of them left because they were fed up with the cockups the inexperienced mechanics left behind.

 

maybe just me but i personally could'nt give two ****s weather its complex or not ( if its its simple and works its good for me ) long as it goes in a straight line and round corners when it needs too and does what its designed to do then i'm happy...

funny thing is how many people here work on there complex cars ??

 

Yeah thats the one mate. like i said, i dont doubt there ability, i just wasnt all that sure if they were subaru trained technicians in there.

 

i work at a vauxhall garage...we service ALL types of cars there,aswell as put them through the bodyshop...we also sell vx220 turbos and the manaro V8...totaly different but still just cars...we also do mots for a jap import company near by and other bits of work on them...no probs

 

Still wouldn't take my Saab jet fighter to a Saab garage though!!!!

 

nor my video player to an old daewoo dealer

 

like i said, it wasnt a dig at Vauxhall mechanics or any others for that matter. I have full respect for any trained mechanic, cause without them we would have to rely on all of those who think they know everything about engines..etc but have never actualy picked up a spanner.

 

Yeah know what ya mean.......screwed me trim right up last time


Muppets

 

Reference the Subaru Dealership in Stirling / Falkirk

They will be opening the Falkirk one on the next six weeks, there will be two Techs based there both are highly subaru trained & and have worked on scoobs for numerous years, certificates can been shown if need be, i wouldnt doubt these guys they are amongst the best.

Falkirk will be totally refurbished over the next year with a new workshop planned, over the next few weeks the existing workshop will be changed around & sorted for use until the new one is built.

Try them, you wont be disappointed

Ps i know PM me for any more details

 

Spot on Pretty much what I'm getting at

An Impreza to a competent mechanic is pretty much identical any other modern car on the road to work, maintain and repair.

Just to add to the people who just simply don't "get it" ......

Put it another way to an IT specialist...is a Pentium II 350 based computer any different to use or work on than a Pentium 4 or an AMD sempron? - No!...just one is slower. Or how about a Dell Optiplex to a Packard Bell desktop? No!! One maybe better than the other...but they are essentially the same.

Another one...A Hotpoint washing Machine and a whirpool washinh Machine... both have drums, belt, motor, pump, control unit/board/progarmmer, door, casing, wires, suds tray, heater element, seals, safety lock, filter/trap. outlet, water solonoid valve, inlet and associated pipe work. To a trained repairman are they any different??? no!

Believe it or not, cars are the same, they all work on the same principals, they all use very similar technology to each other, the same bearing designs in engines and gearboxes (just plain bearings), the same type of braking systems (discs+calipers or drums etc ). same suspension (typically Macphersion strut front, multi link rear or twist beam/ trailing arm all supported by rubber bushings to subframe assemblies). Even the chassis designs are extremely similar - two main box section rails as main bracing along the length of the car incoporated into the pressed steel shell. With exception of proper 4x4 off roaders and vintage/american cars which use body on chassis (just like a truck...two main box section or U section rails with crossmembers linking them, and a body bolted on top).

If you spend your life working on cars...and got your hands on an Impreza and took it to pieces, you wouldn't find anything that would suprise you.

 

Take the impreza out of this for a minute. If a Ford mechanic changed jobs to work in a BMW garage i can pretty much asure u that he would not instantly know the ins and outs of the car. The result would be jobs taking longer and maybe not quite up to scratch. Give him a couple of months and yeah ok he would probably be a master at it. The point was about experience on that perticular car, nobody is saying the subaru is Rocket science compared to all other cars.

 

Well said ALi-B .......................

However, the Impreza scares the ****e out of those dimwitted IT bods!!

Never seen a drop of oil, let alone got covered in it!!

Hence, they get ripped off left, right and centre with 'special' things SUBARU forgot to put on!!! Ha Ha Ha

Can I interest you in a CockLink or a light to tell you when to change gear?? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA what a bunch of clowns

Pete

 

Strange that ................ considering the BEST Mechanics are those in the small, out-of-the-way village .................. who can and DO work on ANY car presented to them!!!!!

From an old Austin right through to an EVO ..................

So?? how do they manage working on 5 different cars in one day????

All cars are the SAME!!!!!!

Pete

 

Same as all trucks, boats, trains & planes eh pete ??

 

Not true im afraid. Yes they will manage the fairly small jobs of day to day repairs, but if your talking serious work they will probably do the job but take alot longer or they will refer you to a subaru "specialist". I have spoken to enough mechanics in enough Garages to know that now again people will bite off more than they can chew. NOT all Cars are the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Of course!!

Lets just take this boat into Nationwide Autocentre, this plane into Kwik-Fit and this Train into PCWorld!! you muppet!!!

Pete