[advice] Neighbours dog kills our rabbit
29 August 2005, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobypreza
My pet rabbit was killed by a dog when I was about 11.
Sorry about yours.
cath
Sorry about yours.
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Should be stamped out. Like wasps.... why?? We don't need them??? Get rid...
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30 August 2005, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by wrx bill
fekin hell doc dicks just told us mate cannot belive it is the big dog one of them jap fighting dogs any more probs mate i know a nutter on the estate who would sort him an the dogs out single handedly
30 August 2005, 10:03 AM
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If the mutt's done it once it'll do it again. Take some action on a dark night, I'm sure you'll find some inspiration.
I have owned dogs for most of my life but would have no qualms in pacifying one.
I did have two rabbits which were killed by a stray Greyhound and have personally been in casualty due to a "reformed" rescue dog. Probably more my fault than the mongrel's but if it had been a child it would have been a lot worse.
The bunny was bad but consider a toddler, no deal in my eyes.
K.
I have owned dogs for most of my life but would have no qualms in pacifying one.
I did have two rabbits which were killed by a stray Greyhound and have personally been in casualty due to a "reformed" rescue dog. Probably more my fault than the mongrel's but if it had been a child it would have been a lot worse.
The bunny was bad but consider a toddler, no deal in my eyes.
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30 August 2005, 10:39 AM
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A dog should be put down "because it doesnt like horses" ?
Perhaps it got kicked as a pup. I dont like horses - should I be killed as a danger to small children ?
Its is a long way from a dog hurting a rabbit (and it appears tp be shock rather than anything physical from my reading?) to hurting children. Perhaps the dog was having fun and just sniffing around the rabbit - which was enough for a domestic rabbit unused to other animals to go into shock. Our friends lab loves a good sniff round the rabbit hutch - doesnt turn it into a killer.
A little perspective please.
Oh and most cats kill other animals regularly and are allowed to roam well beyond the owners property. Perhaps we could have a national cull.....
Perhaps it got kicked as a pup. I dont like horses - should I be killed as a danger to small children ?
Its is a long way from a dog hurting a rabbit (and it appears tp be shock rather than anything physical from my reading?) to hurting children. Perhaps the dog was having fun and just sniffing around the rabbit - which was enough for a domestic rabbit unused to other animals to go into shock. Our friends lab loves a good sniff round the rabbit hutch - doesnt turn it into a killer.
A little perspective please.
Oh and most cats kill other animals regularly and are allowed to roam well beyond the owners property. Perhaps we could have a national cull.....
30 August 2005, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dsmith
Oh and most cats kill other animals regularly and are allowed to roam well beyond the owners property. Perhaps we could have a national cull.....
30 August 2005, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dsmith
Perhaps the dog was having fun and just sniffing around the rabbit - which was enough for a domestic rabbit unused to other animals to go into shock..
The neighbours have now put a shootbolt on the gate, at least this is some progress.
I`ll wait and see if it works, we wont be getting another rabbit thats for sure
30 August 2005, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by **************
I'd nearly mentioned cats in my post above when talking about animal shock but deleted it but should have realised someone would eventually get round to bringing cats into this conversation
30 August 2005, 11:36 AM
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Wouldnt want the cat thing to distract but just in case it wasnt clear, I certainly wasnt suggesting dogs should be allowed to jump fences and get rabbits - It is firmly the owners responsibility to ensure the garden is adequtely secured to ensure they cant go anywhere ....
I "baby-sit" my mothers rabbits when they go on holiday (the parents that is!) and cats walking through the garden do distress the rabbits. They retreat into the closed part of the hutch and thump the sides - which works for the cats. I do worry about the local foxes but can only do my best to enure the hutch and run is secure and sturdy enough to keep them out....
but just in case it wasnt clear, I certainly wasnt suggesting dogs should be allowed to jump fences and get rabbits - It is firmly the owners responsibility to ensure the garden is adequtely secured to ensure they cant go anywhere ....I "baby-sit" my mothers rabbits when they go on holiday (the parents that is!) and cats walking through the garden do distress the rabbits. They retreat into the closed part of the hutch and thump the sides - which works for the cats. I do worry about the local foxes but can only do my best to enure the hutch and run is secure and sturdy enough to keep them out....
30 August 2005, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Oh and most cats kill other animals regularly and are allowed to roam well beyond the owners property.
30 August 2005, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Originally Posted by OllyK
Oh and most cats kill other animals regularly and are allowed to roam well beyond the owners property.
30 August 2005, 02:02 PM
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Too many fukcwits on this thread, as usual
+doc+ I sympathise with you mate.
Dogs chase rabbits. What happened is unacceptable, no doubt, but understandable.
Some dogs will obsess about, chase and kill small furry animals. Its a fact of life, and there is nothing that will change that.
One of my dogs would, if given the opportunity, probably bring down a sheep or a cow. Solution? I don't let them near sheep or cows.
I used to get really hacked off with all the suggestions in threads like these of how to kill the offending dog with ever increasing cruelty, but then I realised what's the point of letting that kind of post get to me?
Those making such suggestions are usually quite sad, lonely individuals devoid of any friends or social awareness. there is every likelyhood that they are sad pathetic little "mummy's boys" and probably sexually repressed as well. It is without doubt that they are ignorant in the truest sense of the word. Its actually help they need, not retribution, although I am empathetic to, for instance, Bubba's response.
You did the right thing in talking to the neighbours. You should also make sure your child/children are not unsupervised. Not because the dogs will probably attack them, but for your own piece of mind.
In the meantime, I'd suggest you move. You neighbours sound like complete tossers.
Alternatively, if that is not an option, the best thging you should do is get to know the dogs as well as you can. That will help dispel any fears you have, and from the dogs perspective they will see you as part of the pack.
It will also mean the next time one of the dogs jumps over the fence or gets out of the garden you can give it a verbal bollocking, grab it by the collar and take it home, rather than (I suspect) being afraid of it.
We have made a point of socialising our dogs with our neighbours and their kids, to the point where if the kids shout "sit" or "down", the dogs respond. The dogs accept the kids and the parents are no longer worried about the two scary rottweilers that live next door/accross the road.
Dogs can read fear and they act on it. If you have no fear, you will be in control.
Oh, and BTW, if the big silver thing is a mastiff, they are normally very soft natured. Also, just because a dog doesn't like animals doesn't mean it will be the same with people.
HTH
+doc+ I sympathise with you mate.
Dogs chase rabbits. What happened is unacceptable, no doubt, but understandable.
Some dogs will obsess about, chase and kill small furry animals. Its a fact of life, and there is nothing that will change that.
One of my dogs would, if given the opportunity, probably bring down a sheep or a cow. Solution? I don't let them near sheep or cows.
I used to get really hacked off with all the suggestions in threads like these of how to kill the offending dog with ever increasing cruelty, but then I realised what's the point of letting that kind of post get to me?
Those making such suggestions are usually quite sad, lonely individuals devoid of any friends or social awareness. there is every likelyhood that they are sad pathetic little "mummy's boys" and probably sexually repressed as well. It is without doubt that they are ignorant in the truest sense of the word. Its actually help they need, not retribution, although I am empathetic to, for instance, Bubba's response.
You did the right thing in talking to the neighbours. You should also make sure your child/children are not unsupervised. Not because the dogs will probably attack them, but for your own piece of mind.
In the meantime, I'd suggest you move. You neighbours sound like complete tossers.
Alternatively, if that is not an option, the best thging you should do is get to know the dogs as well as you can. That will help dispel any fears you have, and from the dogs perspective they will see you as part of the pack.
It will also mean the next time one of the dogs jumps over the fence or gets out of the garden you can give it a verbal bollocking, grab it by the collar and take it home, rather than (I suspect) being afraid of it.
We have made a point of socialising our dogs with our neighbours and their kids, to the point where if the kids shout "sit" or "down", the dogs respond. The dogs accept the kids and the parents are no longer worried about the two scary rottweilers that live next door/accross the road.
Dogs can read fear and they act on it. If you have no fear, you will be in control.
Oh, and BTW, if the big silver thing is a mastiff, they are normally very soft natured. Also, just because a dog doesn't like animals doesn't mean it will be the same with people.
HTH
30 August 2005, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
How did the dog manage to get in to the rabbit's secured hutch / run?
My rabbits don't have a hutch so they run freely in my garden. I don't have to worry about cats as our cats are normally in the garden when they are, and they have plenty of cover to hide from birds of prey.
30 August 2005, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
Its interesting how different the comments would be if it was the next door neighbours cat that attacked the rabbit.
"could you please control your cat..."
"could you please control your cat..."
30 August 2005, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by **************
But in that situation as we do you need to supervise rabbits when they are out freely in the garden and there are cats in the local area. I accept that cats can't and shouldn't be controlled so watch over our rabbits accordingly when they are let out for a run. Its a fact of life.
Cats should not have a right to wander with impunity ... why are they exempt from your unacceptable code of ownership with relation to dogs?
The cat can and should be controlled!
30 August 2005, 03:30 PM
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Err hello I think its accepted by society generally that cats can't be controlled humanely and thats why there is no law requiring what you demand. A cat is a very different animal to a dog
Cats can not be trained the same as dogs, a dog is pretty much an obedient animal and does what it is told to do. A cat is not obedient and it is extremely difficult to train a cat. Dogs require human socialising to exist. Cats dont need it to exist but put up with it to get fed and pampered but are by nature an animal that exists through its independance. Some dog breeds are capable of killing people, no breed of domestic cat can kill a person.
There are your reasons why there is a rule for dogs that doesn't apply to cats
BTW ajm just post under one username, its far easier
Cats can not be trained the same as dogs, a dog is pretty much an obedient animal and does what it is told to do. A cat is not obedient and it is extremely difficult to train a cat. Dogs require human socialising to exist. Cats dont need it to exist but put up with it to get fed and pampered but are by nature an animal that exists through its independance. Some dog breeds are capable of killing people, no breed of domestic cat can kill a person.
There are your reasons why there is a rule for dogs that doesn't apply to cats
BTW ajm just post under one username, its far easier
30 August 2005, 03:32 PM
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LOL!
Cats should not have a right to wander with impunity ... why are they exempt from your unacceptable code of ownership with relation to dogs?
The cat can and should be controlled!
Cats should not have a right to wander with impunity ... why are they exempt from your unacceptable code of ownership with relation to dogs?
The cat can and should be controlled!
Cats can be kept indoor I guess and birds should be in cages and anything wild should be shot
30 August 2005, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jgc
The cat can and should be controlled!
30 August 2005, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Tony Blair says the same about speeding drivers... Theory, practice, and what happens in the real world ain't always the same...
I agree, that's why this unfortunate chaps bunny got eaten ... so accept it and move on then?