[advice] Neighbours dog kills our rabbit
29 August 2005, 01:22 AM
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Agree with Bubba and Shaggy. Some of the other replies are sickening.
I could understand if it had bitten a child or even anyone it would obviously need putting down.
I could understand if it had bitten a child or even anyone it would obviously need putting down.
29 August 2005, 01:38 AM
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Gutted for you Doc, we had our rabbit killed by a fox a few years back now and it was very upsetting. Can't really offer any advice on what to do next, as a fox is obviously a wild animal whereas next door's dog is supposedly a domestic pet, just hope you manage to sort that tw@t of a neighbour out mate. 
29 August 2005, 01:54 AM
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hardly the dogs fault - i cant think of any dog i have owned (and i've had lots) that wouldnt kill a rabbit if they saw one.
the issue is them allowing it to be able to get to your rabbit.
T
the issue is them allowing it to be able to get to your rabbit.
T
29 August 2005, 07:42 AM
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would the dog getting into your garden univited be trespass in the eyes of the law?
29 August 2005, 07:44 AM
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29 August 2005, 08:36 AM
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It is a legal responsibility to ensure a dog cannot escape from its own property, I think. If this is the case you have grounds for legal action but you will end up with more than you ever bargined for. I used to have a neighbour from hell and ending up moving to escape them. I used to come home and find paint thrown over the house or burn marks all over the garage where they have tried to set fire to it because I had a go at the son when I first moved in.
Speak to them and ask them to replace all fencing to avoid the dog escaping in the future. If they don't then take action.
Speak to them and ask them to replace all fencing to avoid the dog escaping in the future. If they don't then take action.
29 August 2005, 08:39 AM
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So rare to find a thread where everybody is in agreement (with the exception of Jods first "joke" 
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Here's the order for you - If each one fails move to the next one;
1. Go round to you neighbour and explain the facts and see what he's willing to do about it
2. Ask him to secure the dogs from getting into your property.
3. secure your property from your side.
4. Ask the Police to sort it.
5. Buy a gun
)Here's the order for you - If each one fails move to the next one;
1. Go round to you neighbour and explain the facts and see what he's willing to do about it
2. Ask him to secure the dogs from getting into your property.
3. secure your property from your side.
4. Ask the Police to sort it.
5. Buy a gun
29 August 2005, 09:28 AM
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It's easy
Go round to your neighbour tell him what the diog has done and explain your fears about them harming your children and tell him that unless he secures his property within a week you will be left with no choice but to contact the authorities.
It's up to him then isn't it, if he chooses to ignore you then contact the Police/RSPCA etc.
Go round to your neighbour tell him what the diog has done and explain your fears about them harming your children and tell him that unless he secures his property within a week you will be left with no choice but to contact the authorities.
It's up to him then isn't it, if he chooses to ignore you then contact the Police/RSPCA etc.
29 August 2005, 09:38 AM
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Dont blame the dog, chances are the dogs arernt fed adequately by the owners!
My dogs used to chase birds and if they caught one they would hold it delicately in their mouth and bring it inside the house to show me! Then would let go and id have a sparrow flapping its way round my livingroom!
My dogs used to chase birds and if they caught one they would hold it delicately in their mouth and bring it inside the house to show me! Then would let go and id have a sparrow flapping its way round my livingroom!
29 August 2005, 10:12 AM
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This is what you call a moral dilemma.
I've got two dogs - a lab and a Cocker Spaniel. Also had a rabbit (never again, but that's a different story!!) and two young kids (2 & 5)
I've just had the same discussion with the wife - what would we do if we were the "victim".
Wifey would go round and talk to the neighbour, and reason with them if possible. Whilst I don't lack of confidence in confrontation (I have NO problem imposing by views!), I tend to see a bigger, darker picture, where the kids are playing in the back garden (5 ft fences all around)/ I'm in the kitchen (overlooking the garden) and hte back door is open. IN other words, I'm monitoring the kids.
I'm a quick, rather large chap (read as bulky, not fat!!) - there's NO way I could get to the kids to protect them without the dog getting there first.
Putting this into perspective, we'd have to be talking about a "Cujo"-type of dog though!!!
But as a parent, it does make you think - by confronting the owner and getting assurances that the correct measures are taken, doesn't necessarily mean that they are taken.
I don't think that there's ANYBODY on this board who could live with themselves, if after a further attack on the kids - whilst they're in hospital, your excuse was "but I went around to see the owner"............
Sounds pretty weak-a$$ to me
However, the other extremity is to take matters into your own hands. Not convinced. Whilst every bone in my body says that I protect my loved ones to the Nth degree, as is my right (IMHO), in this country, that isn't allowed.
And yes, whilst I own and love my dogs, if they ever tried anything, I wouldn't think twice. Sure, it would tear me up inside, but IMHO, animals are lower down the pecking order than humans.
I'm sorry for your loss. No matter what type of animal it is, it's still a loved pet, regardless of what some posters have said.
I can honestly say that I don't know what I'd do - my wife and I had conflicting opinions............... until we thought about........
Dan
I've got two dogs - a lab and a Cocker Spaniel. Also had a rabbit (never again, but that's a different story!!
) and two young kids (2 & 5)I've just had the same discussion with the wife - what would we do if we were the "victim".
Wifey would go round and talk to the neighbour, and reason with them if possible. Whilst I don't lack of confidence in confrontation (I have NO problem imposing by views!
), I tend to see a bigger, darker picture, where the kids are playing in the back garden (5 ft fences all around)/ I'm in the kitchen (overlooking the garden) and hte back door is open. IN other words, I'm monitoring the kids.I'm a quick, rather large chap (read as bulky, not fat!!
) - there's NO way I could get to the kids to protect them without the dog getting there first. Putting this into perspective, we'd have to be talking about a "Cujo"-type of dog though!!!
But as a parent, it does make you think - by confronting the owner and getting assurances that the correct measures are taken, doesn't necessarily mean that they are taken.
I don't think that there's ANYBODY on this board who could live with themselves, if after a further attack on the kids - whilst they're in hospital, your excuse was "but I went around to see the owner"............
Sounds pretty weak-a$$ to me
However, the other extremity is to take matters into your own hands. Not convinced. Whilst every bone in my body says that I protect my loved ones to the Nth degree, as is my right (IMHO), in this country, that isn't allowed.
And yes, whilst I own and love my dogs, if they ever tried anything, I wouldn't think twice. Sure, it would tear me up inside, but IMHO, animals are lower down the pecking order than humans.
I'm sorry for your loss. No matter what type of animal it is, it's still a loved pet, regardless of what some posters have said.
I can honestly say that I don't know what I'd do - my wife and I had conflicting opinions............... until we thought about........
Dan
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29 August 2005, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by +Doc+
Its much bigger than that, it is fatter and has big droopy flaps of skin around the mouth, its quite rare I think.
As for retribution against the animals, never, I know its natural for the dogs, although Ive thought about harming the neighbours
As for retribution against the animals, never, I know its natural for the dogs, although Ive thought about harming the neighbours
Also worth logging onto the neighbours from hell forum lots of usefull help there.
29 August 2005, 10:24 AM
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[QUOTE=Reality]So rare to find a thread where everybody is in agreement (with the exception of Jods first "joke" )
It wasn't a joke.
I haven't done it myself, I was told about it by a solicitor involved in a case with dangerous dogs attacking kids.
If the neighbour is letting his property lapse into disrepair and is an alcky I'll bet he'll not give two ****s about the potential danger his "Pets" present
)It wasn't a joke.
I haven't done it myself, I was told about it by a solicitor involved in a case with dangerous dogs attacking kids.
If the neighbour is letting his property lapse into disrepair and is an alcky I'll bet he'll not give two ****s about the potential danger his "Pets" present
29 August 2005, 10:33 AM
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[QUOTE=jods]
Even as a last resort that's cruelty to the dog.
Although I will admit it would probably get the job done.
Effective but harsh
Originally Posted by Reality
So rare to find a thread where everybody is in agreement (with the exception of Jods first "joke" )
It wasn't a joke.
I haven't done it myself, I was told about it by a solicitor involved in a case with dangerous dogs attacking kids.
If the neighbour is letting his property lapse into disrepair and is an alcky I'll bet he'll not give two ****s about the potential danger his "Pets" present
)It wasn't a joke.
I haven't done it myself, I was told about it by a solicitor involved in a case with dangerous dogs attacking kids.
If the neighbour is letting his property lapse into disrepair and is an alcky I'll bet he'll not give two ****s about the potential danger his "Pets" present
Although I will admit it would probably get the job done.
Effective but harsh
29 August 2005, 10:41 AM
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Went round to see them this morning.
Told them what had happened, they seemed quite shocked etc.
Told them they must sort their gate out immediatly
Told them of my concerns for my daughter
Told them of my concerns for the welfare of their dogs roaming free on their backyard.
They were apologetic, obviously, apparently the gate is broken and they are masters or escape or houdinidogs, unhooking some rope.
They assured me the gate will be sorted.
They said the dogs are not allowed on the backyard, so it wont happen again.
They also said one of the boxers chases Horses and doesnt like other animals much!?!?
I`m going to get some trellis put up in the gap where the dogs lept over.
If it happens again I`m leaving the dog in the back garden and ringing the fuzz/rspca.
Im not unduly worried about my child, she is 1yrs old and will not be left unsupervised anywhere, obviously.
The dogs themselves, like I said are not viscious animals if they were I probably would have twatted it.
As for the garden, thats another story, time for a wicket fence and ignoring them from now on.
Anything for a quiet life :/
Told them what had happened, they seemed quite shocked etc.
Told them they must sort their gate out immediatly
Told them of my concerns for my daughter
Told them of my concerns for the welfare of their dogs roaming free on their backyard.
They were apologetic, obviously, apparently the gate is broken and they are masters or escape or houdinidogs, unhooking some rope.
They assured me the gate will be sorted.
They said the dogs are not allowed on the backyard, so it wont happen again.
They also said one of the boxers chases Horses and doesnt like other animals much!?!?
I`m going to get some trellis put up in the gap where the dogs lept over.
If it happens again I`m leaving the dog in the back garden and ringing the fuzz/rspca.
Im not unduly worried about my child, she is 1yrs old and will not be left unsupervised anywhere, obviously.
The dogs themselves, like I said are not viscious animals if they were I probably would have twatted it.
As for the garden, thats another story, time for a wicket fence and ignoring them from now on.
Anything for a quiet life :/
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29 August 2005, 10:52 AM
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Amused by all the replies leaping to the dog's defence.
Bloody thing is a menace, plain and simple, and should be put down immediately by whatever means.
'nuff said.
Bloody thing is a menace, plain and simple, and should be put down immediately by whatever means.
They also said one of the boxers chases Horses and doesnt like other animals much!?!?
29 August 2005, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Slartibartfast
Amused by all the replies leaping to the dog's defence.
Bloody thing is a menace, plain and simple, and should be put down immediately by whatever means.
'nuff said.
Bloody thing is a menace, plain and simple, and should be put down immediately by whatever means.
'nuff said.
It's a natural inborn instinct in a dog to chase anything that moves, it doesn't make it a menace nor call for it to be destroyed. The owners are to blame plain and simple for not ensuring that the dog couldn't get out. Just because it regrettably killed Doc's rabbit, it doesn't make it a dangerous natural born killer and a threat to kids. These things happen, even one of my own dogs a stupid mutt who was as soft as anything, killed my rabbit which I had forgotten to put away before I let him out. Rabbits are fragile animals and it more than likely died of fright rather than the dog "killing it"Doc has done the right thing so far and done it reasonably.
29 August 2005, 05:26 PM
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Big silver thing could also be a Great Dane - they can come in "weimaraner" colours.
Dispassionately, a dog that kills a rabbit is not exactly a threat, otherwise 98% of dogs in the country should be put down.
Bugger a gravy soaked sponge for the dog. Give a whisky-soaked sponge to the owner.
good luck.
Dispassionately, a dog that kills a rabbit is not exactly a threat, otherwise 98% of dogs in the country should be put down.
Bugger a gravy soaked sponge for the dog. Give a whisky-soaked sponge to the owner.
good luck.
29 August 2005, 06:52 PM
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In most cases Boxers are brainless and harmless, As I said in my other post I found it quite sad that a Boxer did this to your rabbit, and it makes me think is the Boxer being fed properly, I am so so sorry for your rabbit and I hope you get it sorted.
Cheers
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Cheers
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29 August 2005, 07:40 PM
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What concerns me is not your neighbours' dog, but some of the mindless morons that seem to inhabit this forum these days, and who are posting their 'advice' on this thread - they are the ones that need shooting! 
Glad you seem to have sorted it amicably, hopefully that's that. Sorry about your pet rabbit
Glad you seem to have sorted it amicably, hopefully that's that. Sorry about your pet rabbit
29 August 2005, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
What concerns me is not your neighbours' dog, but some of the mindless morons that seem to inhabit this forum these days, and who are posting their 'advice' on this thread - they are the ones that need shooting!
29 August 2005, 08:33 PM
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How about some pictorial references:
Weimaraner
Great Dane
Weims are not known for being that "jowly", though I guess there are exceptions. They can be quite large, but I've not encountered one that is of Great Dane size, and I know a tiny little bit about weims
Not all dogs will rip the kill to shreds, Maggie (Weim in background of above picture) got a rabbit (wlid one) and made a clean kill, and simply dropped it in front of her owner, which is I guess instinct seeing as they are HPR's.
Sad to hear about the rabbit though, I'd have been upset if my rabbit had been killed by a dog, poor little blighter had enough hassle with foxes, let alone dogs though.
Weimaraner
Great Dane
Weims are not known for being that "jowly", though I guess there are exceptions. They can be quite large, but I've not encountered one that is of Great Dane size, and I know a tiny little bit about weims
Not all dogs will rip the kill to shreds, Maggie (Weim in background of above picture) got a rabbit (wlid one) and made a clean kill, and simply dropped it in front of her owner, which is I guess instinct seeing as they are HPR's.
Sad to hear about the rabbit though, I'd have been upset if my rabbit had been killed by a dog, poor little blighter had enough hassle with foxes, let alone dogs though.
29 August 2005, 08:54 PM
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Its as big as a great dane but fatter and with big slobbery chops.
Its not the other breed, too skinny and not big enough.
tbh that dog is the most gentle one of the three, its back legs are nackered and couldnt hurt a fly, although it must be about 15 stonne!
The boxer must have crushed the rabbit to death as there was no obvious signs of blood, the rabbit survived for about an hour and a half after the attack, I was hoping it was just in shock.
Its not the other breed, too skinny and not big enough.
tbh that dog is the most gentle one of the three, its back legs are nackered and couldnt hurt a fly, although it must be about 15 stonne!
The boxer must have crushed the rabbit to death as there was no obvious signs of blood, the rabbit survived for about an hour and a half after the attack, I was hoping it was just in shock.
29 August 2005, 09:10 PM
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fekin hell doc dicks just told us mate cannot belive it is the big dog one of them jap fighting dogs any more probs mate i know a nutter on the estate who would sort him an the dogs out single handedly
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It was most likely shock/heart attack that killed your bunny if there was no visible signs of physical damage such as having its neck broken or been crushed. They are delicate animals and can't survive that sort of scare I doubt if you had got it to a vets in that hour and a half it could have been saved.
Like others have said, not the dogs fault but the irresponsible owners who shouldn't have dogs if they repeatedly escape.
I doubt if you had got it to a vets in that hour and a half it could have been saved.Like others have said, not the dogs fault but the irresponsible owners who shouldn't have dogs if they repeatedly escape.